Say what you want, damn Weezer has Marshall tone......

[blackba]

The Guitar World interview with Weezer was kind of a bummer.

It revealed that not only does River's extensively use co-writers, but their recording process seems really strange. Rivers goes in and records a butt-ton of guitar stuff. Then Patrick Wilson, the drummer, records a bunch of guitar parts. Finally Brian Bell gets to record some guitar parts. And no one really knows what's going to make it onto the final cut.

And lately on stage, Weezer has been using Josh Freese to drum for them, which frees up Patrick Wilson (Weezer's drummer) to play his Green Charvel superstrat, so that Rivers can just run around and be a 'lead singer'.

Not the same band that they used to be.

That would explain why in general the last few albums have been lack luster. I do like Weezer's guitar tone, particularly on the first 2 albums.

 

[Mark Day]

can anyone with Axe-Fx knowledge dial in a patch with this type of guitar sound?
I bought it a couple weeks ago, and am trying to figure out a patch to use for a 23 song album I am starting this week, but haven't been able to dial a useable tone yet.

something like this would work out great, if i can dial it into the Axe-FX

Hey Mark, where are ye!

Here's my attempt. There are no guitars on the backing track I used. I had to buy it on some Karaoke site, so you owe $3 ya bastard
I doubled the guitars. So there are 2 stereo tracks, I also delayed one side of each stereo track a tad. Lol, I got a little carried away with the double tracking and it's a bit too fat but what the heck.
AxeFx preset is below and also on the AxeChange tab of the Editor in Bank K

Mark

 

[bigdaddyd]

The Guitar World interview with Weezer was kind of a bummer.

It revealed that not only does River's extensively use co-writers, but their recording process seems really strange. Rivers goes in and records a butt-ton of guitar stuff. Then Patrick Wilson, the drummer, records a bunch of guitar parts. Finally Brian Bell gets to record some guitar parts. And no one really knows what's going to make it onto the final cut.

And lately on stage, Weezer has been using Josh Freese to drum for them, which frees up Patrick Wilson (Weezer's drummer) to play his Green Charvel superstrat, so that Rivers can just run around and be a 'lead singer'.

Not the same band that they used to be.

I didn't bother to read the whole interview yet. I was a huge fan years ago. Then Rivers pretty much admitted he turned the whole thing into a scholastic type drill. He basically turned songwriting into a formula and put together these binders of what worked and would piece together parts sort of based on how he did it before. I kind of stopped listening at that point. It was more or less going through the motions, but I can't really blame him. He is the same guy that basically threw it all away...literally. I think sometimes that he came back for everyone else...and not for himself.

 

[bigdaddyd]

can anyone with Axe-Fx knowledge dial in a patch with this type of guitar sound?
I bought it a couple weeks ago, and am trying to figure out a patch to use for a 23 song album I am starting this week, but haven't been able to dial a useable tone yet.

something like this would work out great, if i can dial it into the Axe-FX

Hey Mark, where are ye!

Here's my attempt. There are no guitars on the backing track I used. I had to buy it on some Karaoke site, so you owe $3 ya bastard
I doubled the guitars. So there are 2 stereo tracks, I also delayed one side of each stereo track a tad. Lol, I got a little carried away with the double tracking and it's a bit too fat but what the heck.
AxeFx preset is below and also on the AxeChange tab of the Editor in Bank K

Mark

That sounds pretty damn good.

 

[killertone]

I opened for them in 2001 and they had all Marshalls. They were using those old 8x10 cabs back then. Sounded pretty good.

 

[Gooseman]

In 2001, I believe that was when they used all PODS and no real amps for their tones.

I think it's smart that Rivers catalogued what was successful. Why shouldn't musicians do this? I think as artists, we sometimes forget to use that analytical and scientific approach to art. Rivers has shown that he can still make Weezer relevant after all of these years. The fact that we're still talking about them says a lot, even if some of us don't like their newer material. I remember in the '90s I would've thought that bands like Smashing Pumpkins and Everclear would always hold relevancy. Clearly, I was mistaken. I never thought I still be listening to Weezer on the radio all these years later.

 

[Gooseman]

So Rivers used a pre-Boogie rare Mark I for his initial Weezer release? I am not well-versed in the Mark-series amps, but would a true Mark I get me close to that sound too, or are the actual Mark amps different than the rare one that Rivers employed?

 

[londaxe]

So Rivers used a pre-Boogie rare Mark I for his initial Weezer release? I am not well-versed in the Mark-series amps, but would a true Mark I get me close to that sound too, or are the actual Mark amps different than the rare one that Rivers employed?

Nah it looked like a standard mark 1 with the boogie nameplate missing, which I assume is why they're saying "pre-boogie". It was probably a '77 or '78. looked like the stripped down 60 watt without the extra features, but i recall reading that his had an extra master volume on the back.

I'd say that you might or might not get that sound with an original mark 1. because they didn't all sound the same. I had two different mark 1 heads (one of which sounded horrible) and found my IIB can get much closer to that sound.

 

[thiswaythatway]

can anyone with Axe-Fx knowledge dial in a patch with this type of guitar sound?
I bought it a couple weeks ago, and am trying to figure out a patch to use for a 23 song album I am starting this week, but haven't been able to dial a useable tone yet.

something like this would work out great, if i can dial it into the Axe-FX

Hey Mark, where are ye!

Here's my attempt. There are no guitars on the backing track I used. I had to buy it on some Karaoke site, so you owe $3 ya bastard
I doubled the guitars. So there are 2 stereo tracks, I also delayed one side of each stereo track a tad. Lol, I got a little carried away with the double tracking and it's a bit too fat but what the heck.
AxeFx preset is below and also on the AxeChange tab of the Editor in Bank K

Mark

No offense but that sounds like a Metallica version of it.

 

[Mailman1971]

Sounds good Mark....
thats about the tone my band plays it as well....METAL!!

Original is WAY TAMER.....but hey....I like your version better!

 

[Mark Day]

No offense but that sounds like a Metallica version of it.

Lol, ya I overdid it a bit. No offense taken.

Mark

 

[Mailman1971]

No offense but that sounds like a Metallica version of it.

Lol, ya I overdid it a bit. No offense taken.

Mark

Thats what we like to do though......take an old song...and put a modern "Metalish" twist on it.
I always say....if you want to hear the original .....
BUY THE CD!

Loved your Version Mark!

Dan

 

[Mark Day]

Sounds good Mark....
thats about the tone my band plays it as well....METAL!!

Original is WAY TAMER.....but hey....I like your version better!

Thanks dude. I just keep messing with the mix. The backing track was pretty mild and weak so I went over-board on the guitars. The mix could easily be tamed down and I really didn't need to double the guitars but I was having fun with it

Mark

 

[Mailman1971]

........ but I was having fun with it

Mark

THAT.......is what its really ALL ABOUT!!!

Sometimes people lose sight of that.

 

[zuel69]

Exactly, and when I said goodbye to Pat Wilson almost 20 years ago I'd figure he'd be back looking for work real quick.

In 2001, I believe that was when they used all PODS and no real amps for their tones.

I think it's smart that Rivers catalogued what was successful. Why shouldn't musicians do this? I think as artists, we sometimes forget to use that analytical and scientific approach to art. Rivers has shown that he can still make Weezer relevant after all of these years. The fact that we're still talking about them says a lot, even if some of us don't like their newer material. I remember in the '90s I would've thought that bands like Smashing Pumpkins and Everclear would always hold relevancy. Clearly, I was mistaken. I never thought I still be listening to Weezer on the radio all these years later.

 

[Gooseman]

Exactly, and when I said goodbye to Pat Wilson almost 20 years ago I'd figure he'd be back looking for work real quick.

In 2001, I believe that was when they used all PODS and no real amps for their tones.

I think it's smart that Rivers catalogued what was successful. Why shouldn't musicians do this? I think as artists, we sometimes forget to use that analytical and scientific approach to art. Rivers has shown that he can still make Weezer relevant after all of these years. The fact that we're still talking about them says a lot, even if some of us don't like their newer material. I remember in the '90s I would've thought that bands like Smashing Pumpkins and Everclear would always hold relevancy. Clearly, I was mistaken. I never thought I still be listening to Weezer on the radio all these years later.

Sorry, I didn't understand what you were jivin' at? Are you writing that Pat was once your drummer?

 

[zuel69]

Yea, we grew up together. Clarence NY baby

Exactly, and when I said goodbye to Pat Wilson almost 20 years ago I'd figure he'd be back looking for work real quick.

In 2001, I believe that was when they used all PODS and no real amps for their tones.

I think it's smart that Rivers catalogued what was successful. Why shouldn't musicians do this? I think as artists, we sometimes forget to use that analytical and scientific approach to art. Rivers has shown that he can still make Weezer relevant after all of these years. The fact that we're still talking about them says a lot, even if some of us don't like their newer material. I remember in the '90s I would've thought that bands like Smashing Pumpkins and Everclear would always hold relevancy. Clearly, I was mistaken. I never thought I still be listening to Weezer on the radio all these years later.

Sorry, I didn't understand what you were jivin' at? Are you writing that Pat was once your drummer?