Because he offered him $800 for it.dfrattaroli":1fppjehu said:TrueTone500":1fppjehu said:I spoke with a vintage dealer, and he said that the fair market value for a last year authentic San Dimas Charvel HSS with a Kahler Pro (if the guitar is as clean as the pictures indicate) is between $1800.00 to $2200.00 USD!He also said; "Do yourself a favor, and stay off the internet..."
TrueTone500 signing off!
So why didn't he buy yours?
sah5150":23y58uwr said:Because he offered him $800 for it.dfrattaroli":23y58uwr said:TrueTone500":23y58uwr said:I spoke with a vintage dealer, and he said that the fair market value for a last year authentic San Dimas Charvel HSS with a Kahler Pro (if the guitar is as clean as the pictures indicate) is between $1800.00 to $2200.00 USD!
TrueTone500 signing off!
So why didn't he buy yours?
Steve
sah5150":1bmavbo8 said:Because he offered him $800 for it.dfrattaroli":1bmavbo8 said:TrueTone500":1bmavbo8 said:I spoke with a vintage dealer, and he said that the fair market value for a last year authentic San Dimas Charvel HSS with a Kahler Pro (if the guitar is as clean as the pictures indicate) is between $1800.00 to $2200.00 USD!
TrueTone500 signing off!
So why didn't he buy yours?
Steve
TrueTone500":1mmvkd5g said:Well, Steve was right!
rupe":2mnwsgul said:TrueTone500":2mnwsgul said:Well, Steve was right!
Thanks, but everybody else here already knew that
Hey man - just enjoy it. It's a KILLER guitar…TrueTone500":3pl4l11j said:Well, Steve was right!
It seems the older pointy San Dimas guitars aren't that popular right now. A local guy who owns a 1985 has run into the same issues as me, and his has some nice looking graphics on it. VIntage dealers are giving me value quotes based on opinion - not true street value. It's too bad to, because it's a really nice guitar. I remember back when dealers couldn't keep these guitars in-stock.
Thanks!sah5150":bqa7cua2 said:Hey man - just enjoy it. It's a KILLER guitar…TrueTone500":bqa7cua2 said:Well, Steve was right!
It seems the older pointy San Dimas guitars aren't that popular right now. A local guy who owns a 1985 has run into the same issues as me, and his has some nice looking graphics on it. VIntage dealers are giving me value quotes based on opinion - not true street value. It's too bad to, because it's a really nice guitar. I remember back when dealers couldn't keep these guitars in-stock.
Steve
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sah5150":3kezw3d6 said:I'm saying that the fair market value is $800-900...TrueTone500":3kezw3d6 said:So what you're basically saying is that the market is fickle, and I'm being stubborn... I can accept that. It still doesn't mean my guitar is only worth $900.00 USD.sah5150":3kezw3d6 said:1.) When did I say it was a production guitar. Oh yeah… I didn't… All original Charvel's were custom built…TrueTone500":3kezw3d6 said:Makes sense, but a my HSS San Dimas is not a production guitar. I spoke with Thoroughbred in Tampa about this particular HSS before purchasing a Jackson San Dimas single humbucker model. Thoroughbred requested the configuration, and that's what Charvel built. I had an offer in '11 for $1650.00, and didn't sell it. Offers have ranged from $1650.00 down to $1100.00 USD. I don't care what anyone else thinks it is or isn't worth. The fact that I've had a $1650.00 offer on means that someone out there thinks it's worth $1650.00 USD. For you, or anyone else to say anything is worth a specified amount of money is completely narcissistic. I get what you're saying, but the evidence indicates you are incorrect.sah5150":3kezw3d6 said:There is also an eBay ad that features two beat to shit Charvel pre pros with spider web paint jobs that the seller has listed for $150,000.00. Just because he's put that price on it does not mean he's going to get it, does it?TrueTone500":3kezw3d6 said:There aren't many guitars I feel I have to own, but I absolutely love this one!
I look at this in comparison it to my white HSS, and I wonder how the retail value of this guitar is $2499.99 - yet mine is only $900.00?It's also advertised as a "San Dimas", yet it is not a San Dimas made Charvel. Does Charvel build these in the old factory?
There is a difference between fantasy and reality in pricing...
The guitar you posted would still fetch far more than yours. It is a recent Charvel Custom Shop guitar that was probably custom ordered for ~ $2800 new. It is also a strat head, which most prefer and more importantly, it doesn't have a Kahler. It has some fucked up features most Charvel buyers don't dig (like the three hums and separate switches) which is why it won't fetch the $1600-1800 he'd get if it was a 1 or two hum guitar.
Will he get $2599? Will you get $1300 for yours? Anything is possible if you wait long enough and someone falls in love with it because they are looking for exactly what you have. Unlikely... But anything is possible... Make sense?
Steve
2.) The '11 offer makes my point. Anything is possible as I said and you ignored. Someone, somewhere wanted that exact guitar three years ago and was willing to pay you way over market for it. IMO, you should have taken the offer - you may not see it again for many years to come. Of course, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE may SOMEDAY pay you $150,000.00 for that guitar, so why don't you put it on eBay for that? By the way I offered you $900, so the offers have ranged from $1650 down to $900.
3.) I don't and didn't decide your guitar's worth. I am simply giving you information about what the market in general will bear for your guitar now if you want to sell it anytime soon. It's just silly to call me (and everyone else in this thread) narcissistic for telling you about the current state of the market - this isn't about you or me, it is about market value right now.
4.) All the evidence actually proves that I'm correct. It is just impossible for you to understand because you are analyzing the data being put in front of you in a very strange way...
Steve
TrueTone500":3vb7qta3 said:sah5150":3vb7qta3 said:I'm saying that the fair market value is $800-900...TrueTone500":3vb7qta3 said:So what you're basically saying is that the market is fickle, and I'm being stubborn... I can accept that. It still doesn't mean my guitar is only worth $900.00 USD.sah5150":3vb7qta3 said:1.) When did I say it was a production guitar. Oh yeah… I didn't… All original Charvel's were custom built…TrueTone500":3vb7qta3 said:Makes sense, but a my HSS San Dimas is not a production guitar. I spoke with Thoroughbred in Tampa about this particular HSS before purchasing a Jackson San Dimas single humbucker model. Thoroughbred requested the configuration, and that's what Charvel built. I had an offer in '11 for $1650.00, and didn't sell it. Offers have ranged from $1650.00 down to $1100.00 USD. I don't care what anyone else thinks it is or isn't worth. The fact that I've had a $1650.00 offer on means that someone out there thinks it's worth $1650.00 USD. For you, or anyone else to say anything is worth a specified amount of money is completely narcissistic. I get what you're saying, but the evidence indicates you are incorrect.sah5150":3vb7qta3 said:There is also an eBay ad that features two beat to shit Charvel pre pros with spider web paint jobs that the seller has listed for $150,000.00. Just because he's put that price on it does not mean he's going to get it, does it?TrueTone500":3vb7qta3 said:There aren't many guitars I feel I have to own, but I absolutely love this one!
I look at this in comparison it to my white HSS, and I wonder how the retail value of this guitar is $2499.99 - yet mine is only $900.00?
There is a difference between fantasy and reality in pricing...
The guitar you posted would still fetch far more than yours. It is a recent Charvel Custom Shop guitar that was probably custom ordered for ~ $2800 new. It is also a strat head, which most prefer and more importantly, it doesn't have a Kahler. It has some fucked up features most Charvel buyers don't dig (like the three hums and separate switches) which is why it won't fetch the $1600-1800 he'd get if it was a 1 or two hum guitar.
Will he get $2599? Will you get $1300 for yours? Anything is possible if you wait long enough and someone falls in love with it because they are looking for exactly what you have. Unlikely... But anything is possible... Make sense?
Steve
2.) The '11 offer makes my point. Anything is possible as I said and you ignored. Someone, somewhere wanted that exact guitar three years ago and was willing to pay you way over market for it. IMO, you should have taken the offer - you may not see it again for many years to come. Of course, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE may SOMEDAY pay you $150,000.00 for that guitar, so why don't you put it on eBay for that? By the way I offered you $900, so the offers have ranged from $1650 down to $900.
3.) I don't and didn't decide your guitar's worth. I am simply giving you information about what the market in general will bear for your guitar now if you want to sell it anytime soon. It's just silly to call me (and everyone else in this thread) narcissistic for telling you about the current state of the market - this isn't about you or me, it is about market value right now.
4.) All the evidence actually proves that I'm correct. It is just impossible for you to understand because you are analyzing the data being put in front of you in a very strange way...
Steve
The Charvel sold for $1450.00 USD.
Walking into plate glass windows has obviously effected your cognitive brain function... What a maroon!
There are folks who buty brand new at full retail too that could knock off 15-20% but they don't ask -- it doesn't mean the market is 15-20% higher, it just means you have an uninformed buyer Nothing so painful as tan pants butt-hurt!Shawn Lutz":35xpd0ki said:TrueTone500":35xpd0ki said:sah5150":35xpd0ki said:I'm saying that the fair market value is $800-900...TrueTone500":35xpd0ki said:So what you're basically saying is that the market is fickle, and I'm being stubborn... I can accept that. It still doesn't mean my guitar is only worth $900.00 USD.sah5150":35xpd0ki said:1.) When did I say it was a production guitar. Oh yeah… I didn't… All original Charvel's were custom built…TrueTone500":35xpd0ki said:Makes sense, but a my HSS San Dimas is not a production guitar. I spoke with Thoroughbred in Tampa about this particular HSS before purchasing a Jackson San Dimas single humbucker model. Thoroughbred requested the configuration, and that's what Charvel built. I had an offer in '11 for $1650.00, and didn't sell it. Offers have ranged from $1650.00 down to $1100.00 USD. I don't care what anyone else thinks it is or isn't worth. The fact that I've had a $1650.00 offer on means that someone out there thinks it's worth $1650.00 USD. For you, or anyone else to say anything is worth a specified amount of money is completely narcissistic. I get what you're saying, but the evidence indicates you are incorrect.sah5150":35xpd0ki said:There is also an eBay ad that features two beat to shit Charvel pre pros with spider web paint jobs that the seller has listed for $150,000.00. Just because he's put that price on it does not mean he's going to get it, does it?TrueTone500":35xpd0ki said:There aren't many guitars I feel I have to own, but I absolutely love this one!
I look at this in comparison it to my white HSS, and I wonder how the retail value of this guitar is $2499.99 - yet mine is only $900.00?
There is a difference between fantasy and reality in pricing...
The guitar you posted would still fetch far more than yours. It is a recent Charvel Custom Shop guitar that was probably custom ordered for ~ $2800 new. It is also a strat head, which most prefer and more importantly, it doesn't have a Kahler. It has some fucked up features most Charvel buyers don't dig (like the three hums and separate switches) which is why it won't fetch the $1600-1800 he'd get if it was a 1 or two hum guitar.
Will he get $2599? Will you get $1300 for yours? Anything is possible if you wait long enough and someone falls in love with it because they are looking for exactly what you have. Unlikely... But anything is possible... Make sense?
Steve
2.) The '11 offer makes my point. Anything is possible as I said and you ignored. Someone, somewhere wanted that exact guitar three years ago and was willing to pay you way over market for it. IMO, you should have taken the offer - you may not see it again for many years to come. Of course, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE may SOMEDAY pay you $150,000.00 for that guitar, so why don't you put it on eBay for that? By the way I offered you $900, so the offers have ranged from $1650 down to $900.
3.) I don't and didn't decide your guitar's worth. I am simply giving you information about what the market in general will bear for your guitar now if you want to sell it anytime soon. It's just silly to call me (and everyone else in this thread) narcissistic for telling you about the current state of the market - this isn't about you or me, it is about market value right now.
4.) All the evidence actually proves that I'm correct. It is just impossible for you to understand because you are analyzing the data being put in front of you in a very strange way...
Steve
The Charvel sold for $1450.00 USD.
Walking into plate glass windows has obviously effected your cognitive brain function... What a maroon!
there is a sucker born every minute.
We all thought you were kind of a douche before, but you've pretty much confirmed it now. Congrats on the sale. Too bad your buyer wasn't the smartest guy out there. Either that or he had money to burn, was uninformed, or REALLY wanted the guitar.
Pics or it didn't happen..TrueTone500":kgnqn8rx said:sah5150":kgnqn8rx said:I'm saying that the fair market value is $800-900...TrueTone500":kgnqn8rx said:So what you're basically saying is that the market is fickle, and I'm being stubborn... I can accept that. It still doesn't mean my guitar is only worth $900.00 USD.sah5150":kgnqn8rx said:1.) When did I say it was a production guitar. Oh yeah… I didn't… All original Charvel's were custom built…TrueTone500":kgnqn8rx said:Makes sense, but a my HSS San Dimas is not a production guitar. I spoke with Thoroughbred in Tampa about this particular HSS before purchasing a Jackson San Dimas single humbucker model. Thoroughbred requested the configuration, and that's what Charvel built. I had an offer in '11 for $1650.00, and didn't sell it. Offers have ranged from $1650.00 down to $1100.00 USD. I don't care what anyone else thinks it is or isn't worth. The fact that I've had a $1650.00 offer on means that someone out there thinks it's worth $1650.00 USD. For you, or anyone else to say anything is worth a specified amount of money is completely narcissistic. I get what you're saying, but the evidence indicates you are incorrect.sah5150":kgnqn8rx said:There is also an eBay ad that features two beat to shit Charvel pre pros with spider web paint jobs that the seller has listed for $150,000.00. Just because he's put that price on it does not mean he's going to get it, does it?TrueTone500":kgnqn8rx said:There aren't many guitars I feel I have to own, but I absolutely love this one!
I look at this in comparison it to my white HSS, and I wonder how the retail value of this guitar is $2499.99 - yet mine is only $900.00?
There is a difference between fantasy and reality in pricing...
The guitar you posted would still fetch far more than yours. It is a recent Charvel Custom Shop guitar that was probably custom ordered for ~ $2800 new. It is also a strat head, which most prefer and more importantly, it doesn't have a Kahler. It has some fucked up features most Charvel buyers don't dig (like the three hums and separate switches) which is why it won't fetch the $1600-1800 he'd get if it was a 1 or two hum guitar.
Will he get $2599? Will you get $1300 for yours? Anything is possible if you wait long enough and someone falls in love with it because they are looking for exactly what you have. Unlikely... But anything is possible... Make sense?
Steve
2.) The '11 offer makes my point. Anything is possible as I said and you ignored. Someone, somewhere wanted that exact guitar three years ago and was willing to pay you way over market for it. IMO, you should have taken the offer - you may not see it again for many years to come. Of course, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE may SOMEDAY pay you $150,000.00 for that guitar, so why don't you put it on eBay for that? By the way I offered you $900, so the offers have ranged from $1650 down to $900.
3.) I don't and didn't decide your guitar's worth. I am simply giving you information about what the market in general will bear for your guitar now if you want to sell it anytime soon. It's just silly to call me (and everyone else in this thread) narcissistic for telling you about the current state of the market - this isn't about you or me, it is about market value right now.
4.) All the evidence actually proves that I'm correct. It is just impossible for you to understand because you are analyzing the data being put in front of you in a very strange way...
Steve
The Charvel sold for $1450.00 USD.
