No Kahlers in that pic...you're clearly not qualified. Go troll another thread.Chubtone":1m9e5g0x said:
Let's put some faces to this picture, shall we...Chubtone":38n5p7j9 said:

TrueTone500":3p2x0ze5 said:I'm sorry, but I get pissed when people low-ball my gear! When I see Fender made Charvel's selling for $2000.00+, I'm absolutely baffled. I've played over a dozen USA Fenvel's, and none of them played or sounded like a real San Dimas... None of them! As far as the Kahler is concerned, I've always loved the Kahler tremolo because it stays in-tune. What a concept! Try playing an E pedal tone, and a unison bend on the 12th/14th fret high E and B strings with a floating Floyd Rose... The pedal tone will drop flat every time. Sure, you can block-off the trem block, but then it's a one-way system. I changed my '86 Jackson San Dimas to a FR body/tremolo, and it ruined the sound of the guitar. The Kahler routed bodies obviously sound better due to the additional mass. If there's anything about my guitar that I don't like, it's the goofy pointed headstock. It's a cool headstock for the RR, Kelly, and Star... On Strat body it looks ridiculous. My plan was to swap necks with a Strat head Star, but the seller sold the neck separately.
TrueTone500":vw2kx7f7 said:
Good story! Here's another...Chubtone":9crcm427 said:TrueTone500":9crcm427 said:
I'll put one face to that picture. The guy in the middle in the very back that you can barely see with the black hair. He has his hand over the headstock. That is Dave Anderson and he played in local Chicago rockers The Eric Steel Band. He's the one that walked over and took a Kramer out of my hands at GC Chicago when I was 17. I'd been saving for the Kramer for months and was getting close. He said, "why don't you try this?" and put a 1984 Charvel San Dimas in my hands. This was a big problem for me. The Kramer was $600. The Charvel was $1200. Let's put it this way. I never owned a Kramer in my entire life, but have owned over 50 original Charvels.
Damn you Dave Anderson!![]()



rlord1974":345zf427 said:^ name dropper.![]()

There is also an eBay ad that features two beat to shit Charvel pre pros with spider web paint jobs that the seller has listed for $150,000.00. Just because he's put that price on it does not mean he's going to get it, does it?TrueTone500":15gq53gl said:There aren't many guitars I feel I have to own, but I absolutely love this one!
I look at this in comparison it to my white HSS, and I wonder how the retail value of this guitar is $2499.99 - yet mine is only $900.00?It's also advertised as a "San Dimas", yet it is not a San Dimas made Charvel. Does Charvel build these in the old factory?
Makes sense, but a my HSS San Dimas is not a production guitar. I spoke with Thoroughbred in Tampa about this particular HSS before purchasing a Jackson San Dimas single humbucker model. Thoroughbred requested the configuration, and that's what Charvel built. I had an offer in '11 for $1650.00, and didn't sell it. Offers have ranged from $1650.00 down to $1100.00 USD. I don't care what anyone else thinks it is or isn't worth. The fact that I've had a $1650.00 offer on means that someone out there thinks it's worth $1650.00 USD. For you, or anyone else to say anything is worth a specified amount of money is completely narcissistic. I get what you're saying, but the evidence indicates you are incorrect.sah5150":1z6iojvt said:There is also an eBay ad that features two beat to shit Charvel pre pros with spider web paint jobs that the seller has listed for $150,000.00. Just because he's put that price on it does not mean he's going to get it, does it?TrueTone500":1z6iojvt said:There aren't many guitars I feel I have to own, but I absolutely love this one!
I look at this in comparison it to my white HSS, and I wonder how the retail value of this guitar is $2499.99 - yet mine is only $900.00?It's also advertised as a "San Dimas", yet it is not a San Dimas made Charvel. Does Charvel build these in the old factory?
There is a difference between fantasy and reality in pricing...
The guitar you posted would still fetch far more than yours. It is a recent Charvel Custom Shop guitar that was probably custom ordered for ~ $2800 new. It is also a strat head, which most prefer and more importantly, it doesn't have a Kahler. It has some fucked up features most Charvel buyers don't dig (like the three hums and separate switches) which is why it won't fetch the $1600-1800 he'd get if it was a 1 or two hum guitar.
Will he get $2599? Will you get $1300 for yours? Anything is possible if you wait long enough and someone falls in love with it because they are looking for exactly what you have. Unlikely... But anything is possible... Make sense?
Steve
Keeping it is best I think. I really wanted to put a color matched strat head neck on it, but there's the 'no longer stock' issue to consider... It's an awesome sounding guitar, but after playing a EBMM EVH, I'm hooked on the EVH neck profile! If Musikcraft can make me a strat head neck with the EBMM EVH neck profile to fit the Charvel, I'll definitely keep it. I have a USA Charvel logo that I can put on the headstock, and maybe get a set of pearl tuners.Shawn Lutz":24ol3yxj said:That is a Custom Shop Chavel and a sweet one too, I love the color. It is also way cooler with 3 hums, no fretboard inlay and a nicely figured birds-eye premium neck. One just isn't going to pay custom shop prices for a basically an off the shelve production guitar. I know you don't want to believe anyone here and that is fine but everyone is telling you you are asking too much, you are asking too much. You have a couple options, keep it and hope the market comes up to what you thing the guitar is worth or sell if for what it is worth today and that isn't the same as what you asking for it. If it was priced accordingly it would have sold and you wouldn't be considering parting it out. It is a sweet guitar, you like kahlers so why not keep it?
1.) When did I say it was a production guitar. Oh yeah… I didn't… All original Charvel's were custom built…TrueTone500":nsvp8kxa said:Makes sense, but a my HSS San Dimas is not a production guitar. I spoke with Thoroughbred in Tampa about this particular HSS before purchasing a Jackson San Dimas single humbucker model. Thoroughbred requested the configuration, and that's what Charvel built. I had an offer in '11 for $1650.00, and didn't sell it. Offers have ranged from $1650.00 down to $1100.00 USD. I don't care what anyone else thinks it is or isn't worth. The fact that I've had a $1650.00 offer on means that someone out there thinks it's worth $1650.00 USD. For you, or anyone else to say anything is worth a specified amount of money is completely narcissistic. I get what you're saying, but the evidence indicates you are incorrect.sah5150":nsvp8kxa said:There is also an eBay ad that features two beat to shit Charvel pre pros with spider web paint jobs that the seller has listed for $150,000.00. Just because he's put that price on it does not mean he's going to get it, does it?TrueTone500":nsvp8kxa said:There aren't many guitars I feel I have to own, but I absolutely love this one!
I look at this in comparison it to my white HSS, and I wonder how the retail value of this guitar is $2499.99 - yet mine is only $900.00?It's also advertised as a "San Dimas", yet it is not a San Dimas made Charvel. Does Charvel build these in the old factory?
There is a difference between fantasy and reality in pricing...
The guitar you posted would still fetch far more than yours. It is a recent Charvel Custom Shop guitar that was probably custom ordered for ~ $2800 new. It is also a strat head, which most prefer and more importantly, it doesn't have a Kahler. It has some fucked up features most Charvel buyers don't dig (like the three hums and separate switches) which is why it won't fetch the $1600-1800 he'd get if it was a 1 or two hum guitar.
Will he get $2599? Will you get $1300 for yours? Anything is possible if you wait long enough and someone falls in love with it because they are looking for exactly what you have. Unlikely... But anything is possible... Make sense?
Steve
So what you're basically saying is that the market is fickle, and I'm being stubborn... I can accept that. It still doesn't mean my guitar is only worth $900.00 USD.sah5150":2fxio5sa said:1.) When did I say it was a production guitar. Oh yeah… I didn't… All original Charvel's were custom built…TrueTone500":2fxio5sa said:Makes sense, but a my HSS San Dimas is not a production guitar. I spoke with Thoroughbred in Tampa about this particular HSS before purchasing a Jackson San Dimas single humbucker model. Thoroughbred requested the configuration, and that's what Charvel built. I had an offer in '11 for $1650.00, and didn't sell it. Offers have ranged from $1650.00 down to $1100.00 USD. I don't care what anyone else thinks it is or isn't worth. The fact that I've had a $1650.00 offer on means that someone out there thinks it's worth $1650.00 USD. For you, or anyone else to say anything is worth a specified amount of money is completely narcissistic. I get what you're saying, but the evidence indicates you are incorrect.sah5150":2fxio5sa said:There is also an eBay ad that features two beat to shit Charvel pre pros with spider web paint jobs that the seller has listed for $150,000.00. Just because he's put that price on it does not mean he's going to get it, does it?TrueTone500":2fxio5sa said:There aren't many guitars I feel I have to own, but I absolutely love this one!
I look at this in comparison it to my white HSS, and I wonder how the retail value of this guitar is $2499.99 - yet mine is only $900.00?It's also advertised as a "San Dimas", yet it is not a San Dimas made Charvel. Does Charvel build these in the old factory?
There is a difference between fantasy and reality in pricing...
The guitar you posted would still fetch far more than yours. It is a recent Charvel Custom Shop guitar that was probably custom ordered for ~ $2800 new. It is also a strat head, which most prefer and more importantly, it doesn't have a Kahler. It has some fucked up features most Charvel buyers don't dig (like the three hums and separate switches) which is why it won't fetch the $1600-1800 he'd get if it was a 1 or two hum guitar.
Will he get $2599? Will you get $1300 for yours? Anything is possible if you wait long enough and someone falls in love with it because they are looking for exactly what you have. Unlikely... But anything is possible... Make sense?
Steve
2.) The '11 offer makes my point. Anything is possible as I said and you ignored. Someone, somewhere wanted that exact guitar three years ago and was willing to pay you way over market for it. IMO, you should have taken the offer - you may not see it again for many years to come. Of course, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE may SOMEDAY pay you $150,000.00 for that guitar, so why don't you put it on eBay for that? By the way I offered you $900, so the offers have ranged from $1650 down to $900.
3.) I don't and didn't decide your guitar's worth. I am simply giving you information about what the market in general will bear for your guitar now if you want to sell it anytime soon. It's just silly to call me (and everyone else in this thread) narcissistic for telling you about the current state of the market - this isn't about you or me, it is about market value right now.
4.) All the evidence actually proves that I'm correct. It is just impossible for you to understand because you are analyzing the data being put in front of you in a very strange way...
Steve
I'm saying that the fair market value is $800-900, but depending on how long you are willing to wait, you may get way more from someone willing to pay because they just HAVE to have your particular guitar…TrueTone500":3mn3mxsw said:So what you're basically saying is that the market is fickle, and I'm being stubborn... I can accept that. It still doesn't mean my guitar is only worth $900.00 USD.sah5150":3mn3mxsw said:1.) When did I say it was a production guitar. Oh yeah… I didn't… All original Charvel's were custom built…TrueTone500":3mn3mxsw said:Makes sense, but a my HSS San Dimas is not a production guitar. I spoke with Thoroughbred in Tampa about this particular HSS before purchasing a Jackson San Dimas single humbucker model. Thoroughbred requested the configuration, and that's what Charvel built. I had an offer in '11 for $1650.00, and didn't sell it. Offers have ranged from $1650.00 down to $1100.00 USD. I don't care what anyone else thinks it is or isn't worth. The fact that I've had a $1650.00 offer on means that someone out there thinks it's worth $1650.00 USD. For you, or anyone else to say anything is worth a specified amount of money is completely narcissistic. I get what you're saying, but the evidence indicates you are incorrect.sah5150":3mn3mxsw said:There is also an eBay ad that features two beat to shit Charvel pre pros with spider web paint jobs that the seller has listed for $150,000.00. Just because he's put that price on it does not mean he's going to get it, does it?TrueTone500":3mn3mxsw said:There aren't many guitars I feel I have to own, but I absolutely love this one!
I look at this in comparison it to my white HSS, and I wonder how the retail value of this guitar is $2499.99 - yet mine is only $900.00?It's also advertised as a "San Dimas", yet it is not a San Dimas made Charvel. Does Charvel build these in the old factory?
There is a difference between fantasy and reality in pricing...
The guitar you posted would still fetch far more than yours. It is a recent Charvel Custom Shop guitar that was probably custom ordered for ~ $2800 new. It is also a strat head, which most prefer and more importantly, it doesn't have a Kahler. It has some fucked up features most Charvel buyers don't dig (like the three hums and separate switches) which is why it won't fetch the $1600-1800 he'd get if it was a 1 or two hum guitar.
Will he get $2599? Will you get $1300 for yours? Anything is possible if you wait long enough and someone falls in love with it because they are looking for exactly what you have. Unlikely... But anything is possible... Make sense?
Steve
2.) The '11 offer makes my point. Anything is possible as I said and you ignored. Someone, somewhere wanted that exact guitar three years ago and was willing to pay you way over market for it. IMO, you should have taken the offer - you may not see it again for many years to come. Of course, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE may SOMEDAY pay you $150,000.00 for that guitar, so why don't you put it on eBay for that? By the way I offered you $900, so the offers have ranged from $1650 down to $900.
3.) I don't and didn't decide your guitar's worth. I am simply giving you information about what the market in general will bear for your guitar now if you want to sell it anytime soon. It's just silly to call me (and everyone else in this thread) narcissistic for telling you about the current state of the market - this isn't about you or me, it is about market value right now.
4.) All the evidence actually proves that I'm correct. It is just impossible for you to understand because you are analyzing the data being put in front of you in a very strange way...
Steve![]()
I spoke with a vintage dealer, and he said that the fair market value for a last year authentic San Dimas Charvel HSS with a Kahler Pro (if the guitar is as clean as the pictures indicate) is between $1800.00 to $2200.00 USD!sah5150":2bgmnb2x said:I'm saying that the fair market value is $800-900, but depending on how long you are willing to wait, you may get way more from someone willing to pay because they just HAVE to have your particular guitar…TrueTone500":2bgmnb2x said:So what you're basically saying is that the market is fickle, and I'm being stubborn... I can accept that. It still doesn't mean my guitar is only worth $900.00 USD.sah5150":2bgmnb2x said:1.) When did I say it was a production guitar. Oh yeah… I didn't… All original Charvel's were custom built…TrueTone500":2bgmnb2x said:Makes sense, but a my HSS San Dimas is not a production guitar. I spoke with Thoroughbred in Tampa about this particular HSS before purchasing a Jackson San Dimas single humbucker model. Thoroughbred requested the configuration, and that's what Charvel built. I had an offer in '11 for $1650.00, and didn't sell it. Offers have ranged from $1650.00 down to $1100.00 USD. I don't care what anyone else thinks it is or isn't worth. The fact that I've had a $1650.00 offer on means that someone out there thinks it's worth $1650.00 USD. For you, or anyone else to say anything is worth a specified amount of money is completely narcissistic. I get what you're saying, but the evidence indicates you are incorrect.sah5150":2bgmnb2x said:There is also an eBay ad that features two beat to shit Charvel pre pros with spider web paint jobs that the seller has listed for $150,000.00. Just because he's put that price on it does not mean he's going to get it, does it?TrueTone500":2bgmnb2x said:There aren't many guitars I feel I have to own, but I absolutely love this one!
I look at this in comparison it to my white HSS, and I wonder how the retail value of this guitar is $2499.99 - yet mine is only $900.00?It's also advertised as a "San Dimas", yet it is not a San Dimas made Charvel. Does Charvel build these in the old factory?
There is a difference between fantasy and reality in pricing...
The guitar you posted would still fetch far more than yours. It is a recent Charvel Custom Shop guitar that was probably custom ordered for ~ $2800 new. It is also a strat head, which most prefer and more importantly, it doesn't have a Kahler. It has some fucked up features most Charvel buyers don't dig (like the three hums and separate switches) which is why it won't fetch the $1600-1800 he'd get if it was a 1 or two hum guitar.
Will he get $2599? Will you get $1300 for yours? Anything is possible if you wait long enough and someone falls in love with it because they are looking for exactly what you have. Unlikely... But anything is possible... Make sense?
Steve
2.) The '11 offer makes my point. Anything is possible as I said and you ignored. Someone, somewhere wanted that exact guitar three years ago and was willing to pay you way over market for it. IMO, you should have taken the offer - you may not see it again for many years to come. Of course, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE may SOMEDAY pay you $150,000.00 for that guitar, so why don't you put it on eBay for that? By the way I offered you $900, so the offers have ranged from $1650 down to $900.
3.) I don't and didn't decide your guitar's worth. I am simply giving you information about what the market in general will bear for your guitar now if you want to sell it anytime soon. It's just silly to call me (and everyone else in this thread) narcissistic for telling you about the current state of the market - this isn't about you or me, it is about market value right now.
4.) All the evidence actually proves that I'm correct. It is just impossible for you to understand because you are analyzing the data being put in front of you in a very strange way...
Steve![]()
Steve

He's delusional.TrueTone500":hbta1he4 said:I spoke with a vintage dealer, and he said that the fair market value for a last year authentic San Dimas Charvel HSS with a Kahler Pro (if the guitar is as clean as the pictures indicate) is between $1800.00 to $2200.00 USD!sah5150":hbta1he4 said:I'm saying that the fair market value is $800-900, but depending on how long you are willing to wait, you may get way more from someone willing to pay because they just HAVE to have your particular guitar…TrueTone500":hbta1he4 said:So what you're basically saying is that the market is fickle, and I'm being stubborn... I can accept that. It still doesn't mean my guitar is only worth $900.00 USD.sah5150":hbta1he4 said:1.) When did I say it was a production guitar. Oh yeah… I didn't… All original Charvel's were custom built…TrueTone500":hbta1he4 said:Makes sense, but a my HSS San Dimas is not a production guitar. I spoke with Thoroughbred in Tampa about this particular HSS before purchasing a Jackson San Dimas single humbucker model. Thoroughbred requested the configuration, and that's what Charvel built. I had an offer in '11 for $1650.00, and didn't sell it. Offers have ranged from $1650.00 down to $1100.00 USD. I don't care what anyone else thinks it is or isn't worth. The fact that I've had a $1650.00 offer on means that someone out there thinks it's worth $1650.00 USD. For you, or anyone else to say anything is worth a specified amount of money is completely narcissistic. I get what you're saying, but the evidence indicates you are incorrect.sah5150":hbta1he4 said:There is also an eBay ad that features two beat to shit Charvel pre pros with spider web paint jobs that the seller has listed for $150,000.00. Just because he's put that price on it does not mean he's going to get it, does it?TrueTone500":hbta1he4 said:There aren't many guitars I feel I have to own, but I absolutely love this one!
I look at this in comparison it to my white HSS, and I wonder how the retail value of this guitar is $2499.99 - yet mine is only $900.00?It's also advertised as a "San Dimas", yet it is not a San Dimas made Charvel. Does Charvel build these in the old factory?
There is a difference between fantasy and reality in pricing...
The guitar you posted would still fetch far more than yours. It is a recent Charvel Custom Shop guitar that was probably custom ordered for ~ $2800 new. It is also a strat head, which most prefer and more importantly, it doesn't have a Kahler. It has some fucked up features most Charvel buyers don't dig (like the three hums and separate switches) which is why it won't fetch the $1600-1800 he'd get if it was a 1 or two hum guitar.
Will he get $2599? Will you get $1300 for yours? Anything is possible if you wait long enough and someone falls in love with it because they are looking for exactly what you have. Unlikely... But anything is possible... Make sense?
Steve
2.) The '11 offer makes my point. Anything is possible as I said and you ignored. Someone, somewhere wanted that exact guitar three years ago and was willing to pay you way over market for it. IMO, you should have taken the offer - you may not see it again for many years to come. Of course, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE may SOMEDAY pay you $150,000.00 for that guitar, so why don't you put it on eBay for that? By the way I offered you $900, so the offers have ranged from $1650 down to $900.
3.) I don't and didn't decide your guitar's worth. I am simply giving you information about what the market in general will bear for your guitar now if you want to sell it anytime soon. It's just silly to call me (and everyone else in this thread) narcissistic for telling you about the current state of the market - this isn't about you or me, it is about market value right now.
4.) All the evidence actually proves that I'm correct. It is just impossible for you to understand because you are analyzing the data being put in front of you in a very strange way...
Steve![]()
SteveHe also said; "Do yourself a favor, and stay off the internet..."
TrueTone500 signing off!![]()