So my band is recording our album with a Mark IIC++ Coliseum.

[jp1seattle]

I always have a bitch of a time dialing mesas in. Once they are dialed though they’re great. I’m surprised you went away from the “mesa V”…..seems to work though!! ?

 

[YSM234]

Nice one, congrats

 

[GJgo]

I always have a bitch of a time dialing mesas in. Once they are dialed though they’re great. I’m surprised you went away from the “mesa V”…..seems to work though!! ?

I much prefer the upper mid tone of an elevated 2200 to the honky mid tone of the 750- at least in the live mix. As it turns out, when you're multi-tracking in the studio the standard V does seem to work out better.

 

[IIBornotIIB]

Awesome, Jeremy! Crushing toanz!

 

[Tone Monster]

Going off memory having owned a IIC+ and currently a IIC++, when you switch to ++ mode do the mids shift a little higher besides more gain?

 

[ZEN Amps]

Nice one man, sounds tough.

 

[GJgo]

Going off memory having owned a IIC+ and currently a IIC++, when you switch to ++ mode do the mids shift a little higher besides more gain?

This is my 4th C++ but the first one that I had Mike make switchable. In this case the tone doesn't shift at all, only the added boost & grease. That said, the Coli power section is a different animal so IDK if the smaller power sections would respond in the same way..?

 

[Tone Monster]

This is my 4th C++ but the first one that I had Mike make switchable. In this case the tone doesn't shift at all, only the added boost & grease. That said, the Coli power section is a different animal so IDK if the smaller power sections would respond in the same way..?

Maybe the extra gain just lets it sing in those frequencies. Could just be the difference in heads.

 

[Beyond Black]

This is my 4th C++ but the first one that I had Mike make switchable. In this case the tone doesn't shift at all, only the added boost & grease. That said, the Coli power section is a different animal so IDK if the smaller power sections would respond in the same way..?

When I switch from + to ++ on my SG, the tone doesn’t really change, only added boost and grease like you said.

 

[Beyond Black]

Maybe the extra gain just lets it sing in those frequencies. Could just be the difference in heads.

That’s pretty much what it does. Gives a boost and ads liquidity.

 

[GJgo]

Oh actually, going ++ I do think cuts the bottom end out a bit- like a boost pedal would. With the GEQ it's easy to compensate if needed, though.

 

[anomaly]

Sounds good, but with settings like that... treble at 9 and bass at 0 why do you find it nessessary to add a OD that will just thin out your tone even more?? When I boost a mark I like to bring the treble down a notch or two, bring the bass up and dial a slightly flubby tone, then use the OD/boost to tighten things back up. When boosting a Mark IV i'll use kinda neutral settings, like treble 6, mids 4, bass 4, so it almost sounds rectoish, and the boost just brings the mid push like the treble knob would do with it at 8 or 9. You don't want too much pre-amp gain in the mids as things will end up thinning out. Add a little bass, even if it's just at 1 or 2, and dial back your treble to like 7, you'll be surprised how much more body your tone has. You're feeding that amp WAY to much pre-gain midrange, you're essentially double boosting, all in the mids with no body to the tone.

Just some suggestions. You can tell me to go to hell.

 

[anomaly]

I much prefer the upper mid tone of an elevated 2200 to the honky mid tone of the 750- at least in the live mix. As it turns out, when you're multi-tracking in the studio the standard V does seem to work out better.

The standard V can work live as well if you add enough presence, then drop the 6600 just a little bit to comphensate. The presence adds bite and clarity, so it ends up cutting better.

 

[SpiderWars]

Killer rhythm tones! Your drummer kicks ass too.

 

[GJgo]

Sounds good, but with settings like that... treble at 9 and bass at 0 why do you find it nessessary to add a OD that will just thin out your tone even more?? When I boost a mark I like to bring the treble down a notch or two, bring the bass up and dial a slightly flubby tone, then use the OD/boost to tighten things back up. When boosting a Mark IV i'll use kinda neutral settings, like treble 6, mids 4, bass 4, so it almost sounds rectoish, and the boost just brings the mid push like the treble knob would do with it at 8 or 9. You don't want too much pre-amp gain in the mids as things will end up thinning out. Add a little bass, even if it's just at 1 or 2, and dial back your treble to like 7, you'll be surprised how much more body your tone has. You're feeding that amp WAY to much pre-gain midrange, you're essentially double boosting, all in the mids with no body to the tone.

Just some suggestions. You can tell me to go to hell.

First rule of Marks- Dial with your ears, not your eyes! Remember this is a Coliseum, not one of those pussy 4 power tube amps.

...and I hate flubby tone. I've sold a lot of good gear because of it.

 

[DanTravis62]

Sounds good, but with settings like that... treble at 9 and bass at 0 why do you find it nessessary to add a OD that will just thin out your tone even more?? When I boost a mark I like to bring the treble down a notch or two, bring the bass up and dial a slightly flubby tone, then use the OD/boost to tighten things back up. When boosting a Mark IV i'll use kinda neutral settings, like treble 6, mids 4, bass 4, so it almost sounds rectoish, and the boost just brings the mid push like the treble knob would do with it at 8 or 9. You don't want too much pre-amp gain in the mids as things will end up thinning out. Add a little bass, even if it's just at 1 or 2, and dial back your treble to like 7, you'll be surprised how much more body your tone has. You're feeding that amp WAY to much pre-gain midrange, you're essentially double boosting, all in the mids with no body to the tone.

Just some suggestions. You can tell me to go to hell.

I'm not really a mark guy, but at that point isn't it just his stylistic preferences?

 

[GJgo]

I'm not really a mark guy, but at that point isn't it just his stylistic preferences?

To add, one thing I really like in Marks is when you push the preamp really hard & get that "clank" on the chugs. You have to get the V1 & treble up around 9 and then really dig in to get there. Just how I like it! The MkIV is the easiest to get there, but the others can do it too.

 

[DanTravis62]

To add, one thing I really like in Marks is when you push the preamp really hard & get that "clank" on the chugs. You have to get the V1 & treble up around 9 and then really dig in to get there. Just how I like it! The MkIV is the easiest to get there, but the others can do it too.

I know the sound you're talking about - I've played a bunch of marks - it just seems odd that people would be so attached to their favorite settings that they would be like that on a post about it.

If someone told me how to dial in my larry I'd be a bit irritated with them tbh

 

[BesaMoogie]

Nice sound!
I think I stumbled across your YT channel as I recognized the riff from the Song. You have like the crème de la crème of all the boogie amps!

 

[motorboy1]

Sounds like Metallicas Death Magnetic.