So Paypal Screwed Me and Reverb.com Abandoned Me... fuck 'em

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Been following this, sorry this had to happen SR. But it's been invaluable information for the rest of us IMO.

I'll never understand people who post in a thread to complain about the thread. It's called free will, exercise it and don't click/respond on a thread you don't like.
 
ProgFree":2puuhgy0 said:
Look at the world, people do suck :lol: :LOL:

There's a lot of such people around unfortunately. I've had it all from buying fake pickups, almost buying fake Gibson Les Pauls and fake PRS among others.

At least when you use the general term "People" you provide context so we all understand that this includes You... At least when it comes to spotting and avoiding people selling fakes. :thumbsup:

All jokes aside. For those that think people, or the world, or life sucks, perhaps you're doing it wrong? Not saying this is a rule by any means, there are always exceptions but for people that have a lot of bad "luck", there is one common denominator in all of your experiences. You...

SR, sucks this happened to you. Good/better luck with your future transactions man, however you choose to conduct them.

Fair warning, you better not be posting a "Mint" Helios 50w head any time soon, or else we'll pull your card. :poke:
 
Why is it mainly people with super low post counts bitching about it? Seems odd to me :confused:
 
messenger":2li1wql4 said:
Why is it mainly people with super low post counts bitching about it? Seems odd to me :confused:
Truth. Hey, noobs..we get that you need to get to 50 posts so you can buy/sell something..but here's some advice..
Pissing people off doesn't help your quest.
Carry on. :thumbsup:
 
Lots of sour grapes in here. From morons stating I have had 12 years of perfect transactions, why haven't you? To attacking the OP for this. This type of stuff needs to be public, as a warning to others, and out shady characters. If he goes a bit far, that's okay, it's his amp, his money, and his decision. Don't like it. Don't click on it. Not sure anything the OP can do, legally, except expose him publicly, and somehow uncover some illegal activity he is involved with.
 
GOHOINC":205sr0md said:
ProgFree":205sr0md said:
Look at the world, people do suck :lol: :LOL:

There's a lot of such people around unfortunately. I've had it all from buying fake pickups, almost buying fake Gibson Les Pauls and fake PRS among others.

At least when you use the general term "People" you provide context so we all understand that this includes You... At least when it comes to spotting and avoiding people selling fakes. :thumbsup:

All jokes aside. For those that think people, or the world, or life sucks, perhaps you're doing it wrong? Not saying this is a rule by any means, there are always exceptions but for people that have a lot of bad "luck", there is one common denominator in all of your experiences. You...

SR, sucks this happened to you. Good/better luck with your future transactions man, however you choose to conduct them.

Fair warning, you better not be posting a "Mint" Helios 50w head any time soon, or else we'll pull your card. :poke:

Let's see if I get it. So if I or in this case SR makes a deal having an honest stance, trusting the buyer/seller and not trying to be a street smart ass and gets effed then the issue is in the honest naive people that trust liars and thieves and not in the liars and thieves themselves?

Doing it wrong is when one trusts people in 2017 dear Sir. And here I mean people in general without previous knowledge of who the individuals are. I've never seen such a number of lowlifes trying to cheat on honest people like today. So yeah, people suck. Close the thread :lol: :LOL:
 
I think it's great to have this information out there when you get a bad buyer, seller, etc.... Definitely lets others know not to do transactions with them.

I really do not see this guys agenda though. Why buy the amp, deliberately do damage to it then return it? He could have easily just returned it for refund without all the hassle or screwing over "savage". It's not like he benefited or gained anything financially with his actions. Just being a douche bag for no reason.
 
ProgFree":sf7d4gh2 said:
Let's see if I get it. So if I or in this case SR makes a deal having an honest stance, trusting the buyer/seller and not trying to be a street smart ass and gets effed then the issue is in the honest naive people that trust liars and thieves and not in the liars and thieves themselves?

Doing it wrong is when one trusts people in 2017 dear Sir. And here I mean people in general without previous knowledge of who the individuals are. I've never seen such a number of lowlifes trying to cheat on honest people like today. So yeah, people suck. Close the thread :lol: :LOL:

I mean no offence by any of my comments BTW, as another rig-talker said to me last week, I'm just making an observation... and I'll certainly concede that some people suck. The vast majority, however, do not...

There are tens of thousands of people conducting transactions on reverb, ebay, forums etc. And hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of pieces of gear available for sale through these systems right now. And who knows how many millions of transactions have been done through these systems over the years. Doing it wrong is being naive enough to think that any of this is new or just started getting worse. We have a relatively small community of folks who share a common interest on this forum, it hurts when one of our own gets burned, hurts worse we you/I get burned. But that is not enough evidence to conclude that people suck. At this point we all know the risks of this game, but we're all still here and most are still willing to play so generally speaking, the other people playing can't be all that bad...
 
jlb32":1ug94aqm said:
I think it's great to have this information out there when you get a bad buyer, seller, etc.... Definitely lets others know not to do transactions with them.

I really do not see this guys agenda though. Why buy the amp, deliberately do damage to it then return it? He could have easily just returned it for refund without all the hassle or screwing over "savage". It's not like he benefited or gained anything financially with his actions. Just being a douche bag for no reason.
It seems like scamron kavian wanted to try the amp out for free basically. Hell, even at GC you lose your shipping if you return an item..on Reverb/EBay even that gets refunded.
 
I also appreciate him putting it out there. That's what the scammers are counting on............people "letting it go". I say keep digging SR!!
 
Dave Rocks":2f4hl76r said:
OK, you got screwed - I get it, I feel for you. But, how many threads do we need about this?

+1. Time to move on.
 
I could give a shit about the naysayers and Kavian's little newb buddies running around this thread, but I admit that I did put a lot of effort into keeping this topic alive. First of all, there is always a lot of talk and not always the action needed. I think the most positive thing about this is that a lot of people got involved in these threads and we connected many dots.

So far, there have been at least 3 people on this very forum who were screwed by the guy, so for those of you who want to so casually brush it off, realize that this isn't some isolated incident. I am making a big deal of it, but look at what we've accomplished. Even Reverb has been following this thread and it may be that they will become more protective of their sellers after this. I'll give the shirt off of my back to help anyone out, and I'm 100% honorable in all of my dealings, but I do have a terrible temper and I struggle to forgive people for even minor infractions against me. If someone screws me over, I will not stop ever. That's a personality flaw that I just can't help. I will dig up all the dirt on Kavian and I'm telling you naysayers right now that sooner or later, he's going to go to jail for at least a criminal mischief misdemeanor.

Yes, I purposefully created more than one thread and made it a big deal because it is a big deal. I'm very appreciative of all the support from my fellow Rig-Talkers, and it certainly helps trade in this forum because we have a tight knit community here that has no tolerance for deviant traders. This is a damned great forum and I'm honored to be a part of it. Thanks to everyone for your effort, thanks to Jim at Scumback for shedding the light, thanks for Fusionbear for being a stand-up guy, and thanks to all the members here who've kept this momentum going.

I don't have much to contribute at this point, but when I get an update, I'll let you guys know. I'm also going to keep an eye out for similar threads and will be of help if possible for anyone else getting ripped off.
 
Please allow me to be clear: I'm glad you are helping other prevent getting screwed. That's Nobel and I mean it. The situation blows - no denying it.

My point, as a 47 Y/O knoob is one thread was all that was needed to get your point across and help the community and I do appreciate that.

But you are ragging pissed, and you have every right to be. Expressing that, exposing the scumbag, was all capable of being done in a single thread.

And now that it's over, yes, time to move on and lessons learned. Again, for anyone to make the generalization that "people suck", well that is sad coz I've never been burned.

One rotten Apple spoils the bunch - I get it.
 
SavageRiffer":1vckfucm said:
I could give a shit about the naysayers and Kavian's little newb buddies running around this thread, but I admit that I did put a lot of effort into keeping this topic alive. First of all, there is always a lot of talk and not always the action needed. I think the most positive thing about this is that a lot of people got involved in these threads and we connected many dots.

So far, there have been at least 3 people on this very forum who were screwed by the guy, so for those of you who want to so casually brush it off, realize that this isn't some isolated incident. I am making a big deal of it, but look at what we've accomplished. Even Reverb has been following this thread and it may be that they will become more protective of their sellers after this. I'll give the shirt off of my back to help anyone out, and I'm 100% honorable in all of my dealings, but I do have a terrible temper and I struggle to forgive people for even minor infractions against me. If someone screws me over, I will not stop ever. That's a personality flaw that I just can't help. I will dig up all the dirt on Kavian and I'm telling you naysayers right now that sooner or later, he's going to go to jail for at least a criminal mischief misdemeanor.

Yes, I purposefully created more than one thread and made it a big deal because it is a big deal. I'm very appreciative of all the support from my fellow Rig-Talkers, and it certainly helps trade in this forum because we have a tight knit community here that has no tolerance for deviant traders. This is a damned great forum and I'm honored to be a part of it. Thanks to everyone for your effort, thanks to Jim at Scumback for shedding the light, thanks for Fusionbear for being a stand-up guy, and thanks to all the members here who've kept this momentum going.

I don't have much to contribute at this point, but when I get an update, I'll let you guys know. I'm also going to keep an eye out for similar threads and will be of help if possible for anyone else getting ripped off.

"blah, blah, blah," .....SHUT THE FUCK UP! :lol: :LOL:
 
Blackbird":1bmdxsxf said:
SavageRiffer":1bmdxsxf said:
I could give a shit about the naysayers and Kavian's little newb buddies running around this thread, but I admit that I did put a lot of effort into keeping this topic alive. First of all, there is always a lot of talk and not always the action needed. I think the most positive thing about this is that a lot of people got involved in these threads and we connected many dots.

So far, there have been at least 3 people on this very forum who were screwed by the guy, so for those of you who want to so casually brush it off, realize that this isn't some isolated incident. I am making a big deal of it, but look at what we've accomplished. Even Reverb has been following this thread and it may be that they will become more protective of their sellers after this. I'll give the shirt off of my back to help anyone out, and I'm 100% honorable in all of my dealings, but I do have a terrible temper and I struggle to forgive people for even minor infractions against me. If someone screws me over, I will not stop ever. That's a personality flaw that I just can't help. I will dig up all the dirt on Kavian and I'm telling you naysayers right now that sooner or later, he's going to go to jail for at least a criminal mischief misdemeanor.

Yes, I purposefully created more than one thread and made it a big deal because it is a big deal. I'm very appreciative of all the support from my fellow Rig-Talkers, and it certainly helps trade in this forum because we have a tight knit community here that has no tolerance for deviant traders. This is a damned great forum and I'm honored to be a part of it. Thanks to everyone for your effort, thanks to Jim at Scumback for shedding the light, thanks for Fusionbear for being a stand-up guy, and thanks to all the members here who've kept this momentum going.

I don't have much to contribute at this point, but when I get an update, I'll let you guys know. I'm also going to keep an eye out for similar threads and will be of help if possible for anyone else getting ripped off.

"blah, blah, blah," .....SHUT THE FUCK UP! :lol: :LOL:

Maybe you didn't get the memo, but trolling isn't appreciated much around here. You must be from the Seymour Duncan forum or something. Doesn't bother me though because I understand you're just a newb little buddy of Kavian's or Kavian himself wanting to naysay and troll. You should know that your IP address can be found easily, so if it traces back to your CA home, we'll all know who you really are. If you are listening, then know that I will not stop until you are put in jail. I already have a lot of information about you going back many years. It's only a matter of time before the law comes knocking at your door punk.
 
SavageRiffer":kfjvyypq said:
Blackbird":kfjvyypq said:
SavageRiffer":kfjvyypq said:
I could give a shit about the naysayers and Kavian's little newb buddies running around this thread, but I admit that I did put a lot of effort into keeping this topic alive. First of all, there is always a lot of talk and not always the action needed. I think the most positive thing about this is that a lot of people got involved in these threads and we connected many dots.

So far, there have been at least 3 people on this very forum who were screwed by the guy, so for those of you who want to so casually brush it off, realize that this isn't some isolated incident. I am making a big deal of it, but look at what we've accomplished. Even Reverb has been following this thread and it may be that they will become more protective of their sellers after this. I'll give the shirt off of my back to help anyone out, and I'm 100% honorable in all of my dealings, but I do have a terrible temper and I struggle to forgive people for even minor infractions against me. If someone screws me over, I will not stop ever. That's a personality flaw that I just can't help. I will dig up all the dirt on Kavian and I'm telling you naysayers right now that sooner or later, he's going to go to jail for at least a criminal mischief misdemeanor.

Yes, I purposefully created more than one thread and made it a big deal because it is a big deal. I'm very appreciative of all the support from my fellow Rig-Talkers, and it certainly helps trade in this forum because we have a tight knit community here that has no tolerance for deviant traders. This is a damned great forum and I'm honored to be a part of it. Thanks to everyone for your effort, thanks to Jim at Scumback for shedding the light, thanks for Fusionbear for being a stand-up guy, and thanks to all the members here who've kept this momentum going.

I don't have much to contribute at this point, but when I get an update, I'll let you guys know. I'm also going to keep an eye out for similar threads and will be of help if possible for anyone else getting ripped off.

"blah, blah, blah," .....SHUT THE FUCK UP! :lol: :LOL:

Maybe you didn't get the memo, but trolling isn't appreciated much around here. You must be from the Seymour Duncan forum or something. Doesn't bother me though because I understand you're just a newb little buddy of Kavian's or Kavian himself wanting to naysay and troll. You should know that your IP address can be found easily, so if it traces back to your CA home, we'll all know who you really are. If you are listening, then know that I will not stop until you are put in jail. I already have a lot of information about you going back many years. It's only a matter of time before the law comes knocking at your door punk.

More empty threats....you are truly mental and take yourself way too seriously. You should seek professional help. :hys:
 
Cant believe people here are ripping on the victim (Savage Riffer) or bumping a thread they seem to be annoyed by.
 
Dirtbags coming out in this thread. I have never had a problem, so your problems don't matter. Don't click if you don't like it. Simple. Unless you are Chartveldan, and barely literate.
 
spliffsperlunk":1ek8sjim said:
Cant believe people here are ripping on the victim (Savage Riffer) or bumping a thread they seem to be annoyed by.

Many of you seem to be missing the point. It's not that he made a thread explaining what happened. It's the fact that he made 4-5 threads talking about the same thing. It also doesn't help that he's a long winded, blowhard. Many of you are annoyed that I (like others here) have pointed that out. Oh, well ....I'm annoyed by many of your acceptance of him doing this. So.... :dunno:
 

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