So what is the Sunset Strip like today?

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The pay to play thing did not last in Seattle very long. Everyone refused to do it & just played the places that did not have it. These days the live scene is pretty dead. In the mid 90's live music was every place. These days almost everywhere is DJ.
 
My son sometimes plays at the Whisky with a Hard core Metal band and he did mention pay to play.He's the bass player. In the 80's my old band had a financial backer and he used to buy the tickets and give then away to people. We did several shows at the Troubador and 2 of them we opened for Racer X. The band was incredible! They had another guitar player that was also really good, I forgot his name, but he was a sweeper and Paul was a picker. The guitar harmony's were insane. The drummer was really good also the bass player. Jeff Martin, the singer was a really cool guy. Very talented, he also was a good drummer!
 
eljodon":2bafm6y7 said:
My son sometimes plays at the Whisky with a Hard core Metal band and he did mention pay to play.He's the bass player. In the 80's my old band had a financial backer and he used to buy the tickets and give then away to people. We did several shows at the Troubador and 2 of them we opened for Racer X. The band was incredible! They had another guitar player that was also really good, I forgot his name, but he was a sweeper and Paul was a picker. The guitar harmony's were insane. The drummer was really good also the bass player. Jeff Martin, the singer was a really cool guy. Very talented, he also was a good drummer!


Bruce Boulliet (sp?)....frighteningly good.
 
I guess it ain't so bad here in the Midwest. As long as you play cover music you can put $50 per night in your pocket. If you play original music then you play for free.
 
Pay to play! Wow, fuck that. 10 years ago in NJ the cover band I was in played out 3-5 nights a week and we never made less than $1,000 a night. Of course we had to play 3, 1 hour sets and a lot of it was full of BS like Blister In The Sun, what what can you do.
 
we had the whole pay to play BS back in the early 2000s here in the UK, it's just a really stupid arrangement which means bands have to try to push everyone they know to come to every show just to get numbers in to meet the "cost".

I'd rather just rent the venue for the night and put on a show with other decent bands and take all the door.
 
If you want to play originals you usually have to pay. The Strip is a shadow of what it used to be. I was there and have the scars and stories to prove it. After they "Cleaned Up" the strip (read as, no hanging out in front of clubs; either pay to go in or go somewhere else) the scene was dead. Musicianship was dying and grunge was on the rise. All of the clubs became pay-to-play, except Gazzari's, which shut down outright. The KeyClub now sits roughly where Gazzari's used to be.

If you want to get your original music noticed these days, playing the Strip ain't the way--cut a record and get it on iTunes, stat.

The Rainbow is still relatively fun. I drop in every now and then to see Mike M. And if Lemmy's not on tour he'll be holding up the back bar outside. Every now and again someone will come in--few times ago I was there sitting opposite Evan Seinfeld (Biohazard) and Tara.

Don't bet the farm on making it in music in LA any more. As noted above, Nashville is where it's at, but you better have one hell of a game.
 
If they changed the street name, no one would go!! It's dirty, over-priced, packed with poseurs, and some awful bands too.

I can't wait to go there tomorrow night!
 
Ahh... The Strip.

My band has played an average of once every 1-2 months there for the past 4 1/2 years including The Whisky, Viper Room, and The Roxy.
It's funny... the "oooh" factor those names have to the general public. When you tell your friends you're playing there, many think that somehow you've "made it." :no: :lol: :LOL:

What can I say that hasn't already been said? It is what it is.

Generally, if you want to play a decent night (Friday or Saturday) you pay in the neighborhood of $600-700+.
You ask your network of friends/fans to drive out to the hard-to-get-to "West-side", pay $10-15 per ticket to hopefully at least break even on your expense, pay $7-10 for parking for your short-lived set.

The set?
You get a 30-35 minute slot on a night with about 6 other bands that can range from an acoustic singer-songwriter, to a punky poppy hard rock band like us, to an androgenous she-male electronica artist singing to track-only, to a progressive metal band. Yes, we've played nights like this. And as Darren said, the quality of bands can range from hacks who just want to say they played there and can pay, to great bands with or without a following.
You stand by, waiting for the previous band's set to end, then you have 15 minutes to load your stuff on stage and hopefully get a line check, while the sound man frequently says "we're cutting into your set guys."
Soundcheck? Even if they do it, you better get there 4-5pm, even if your set is at 10pm.
Oh and that 30-35 minute set can get arbitrarily cut short for one reason or another.

The scene? Non-existent. I was too young to have been hanging out there in the glorious 70's-80's hey-dey. From what I understand it had an energy, it was crawling with people of all sorts checking out bands, and the bands that played there were actually of quality. I'd love to hear more from you guys that lived it!

It was a rude awakening to me to find out that NO ONE goes to these clubs just to hang and check out bands. It's near impossible to build a following this way. Yes, I believe you should do your part in building a crowd but I thinks the clubs have a responsibility to better screen the artists they let play there and to do some buzz-build or promotion.
On any given night, one band can PACK the house. As soon as their set ends, there's a mass exodus as the other band sets up, and there can sadly be no more than five of their buddies left cheering them on.
We've built our following slowly with friends of friends and the lucky nights where crowds for other bands happen to catch our set. Most nights we at least break even, but we've have our share of being in the negative.

So why have we been doing it?
The goal from the beginning has been to build a tight, well-produced show to hopefully set up an industry "showcase" night. Invite them out, and we'll have a good sized stage with a good sound system and lighting, which these places do provide, to present our show as professionally as possible. The Cat Club (RIP) which mightwarlock mentioned was free and had a cool vibe, but the sound man also double as the bartender and that wasn't cutting it for us.
It's taken quite a long time for us to find out that "they" just don't come out. My singer has worked her butt off to network and get them aware of us, but it just hasn't happened.
From what I understand, "the industry" is more likely to start paying attention to you based on your number of Facebook likes, Twitter followers, and YouTube views.

Oh well... I'm not completely complaining here. I'm just trying to represent what the experience is like playing on the famed Strip in the current day. It's a lot of fun playing those stages. We just can't afford to keep doing it any longer.
 
TrueTone500":1ltw62t2 said:
We had a great metal scene here in Central Florida... Enter the drug 'Ecstasy'. Within 1-2 years nearly every bar that had once featured live bands were being converted into rave bars playing 'acid house' music....:aww: It has not recovered.

Ever hear of a band Out of Orlando called Old Fashioned Beatdown? The guitar player is my brother. They spent a bunch of years in the Orlando area and had a pretty big fan base so they decided to take they're act to LA. My bro moved back to MA a few years ago. I guess it ain't easy in LA. All the pay to play stuff is true. The band ended up splitting up. He did meet a lot of rock stars though and used to gig with Five Finger Death Punch.
 
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So when did the strip take a dive? I went to LA in 1994 for 2 weeks and we tried to catch some shows but all we saw were punk bands and the only long hair scene we found was at the Rainbow. But right around 94 is when grunge really got popular.

Here in the NYC/NJ area the clubs are/were really spread out. We used to go to Brooklyn to Lamours and that place was fucking nuts in the late 80's and very early 90's.

In NJ there's always been the Stone Pony, there was the old Fast Lanes which is gone. City Gardens..gone. Studio one in Newark...gone. Murphy's Law in Long Branch...gone. Birch Hill in Oldbridge...gone.

Ya see you fucking grungers, we said your bullshit would be the start of the end of it all. :lol: :LOL: Everyone got into grunge then all of a sudden it was cool to listen to M&M. Fuck that. :doh:
 
Those of us old enough to have lived through the 70's and 80's were part of something special that won't be repeated. If you play music you love (cover or original) and can do it for less than $40-50 a night (pay to play), look at it this way:

A night in a bowling league will cost $30-50.
A round of golf $30 and up.
Mountain bike rides/races, $25-75.

These hobbies require expensive equipment and you pay to play.

If you make a little $$ you are ahead of the game in my book. :rock:

Not much different to me. Enjoy it for what it is and forget about what it was.
 
I just believe that things change.
There will never be another 80's music scene, where guitar was in the forefront on most hit songs.
Who's gonna to come out and out-flash a young EVH and bring electric guitar back to full popularity??? I can't see it happening...ever.

I feel lucky I got to see and hear what I did in the late 70's and 80's. :thumbsup:
 
If you want to re-live some of the over-the-top rock shows of the 80's, run, don't walk, to the next Steel Panther show. Not only are these guys monster musicians playing great original tunes, but they are funny as hell. Well worth the trip to wherever they are playing at a given time. I believe the play the HOB on Sunset weekly (Monday nights) and HOB Las Vegas weekly (Saturday nights). Also do around the country and world touring. Rude and crude, but just what the doctor ordered.
 
Randy Van Sykes":1jzbwkno said:
I just believe that things change.
There will never be another 80's music scene, where guitar was in the forefront on most hit songs.
Who's gonna to come out and out-flash a young EVH and bring electric guitar back to full popularity??? I can't see it happening...ever.

I feel lucky I got to see and hear what I did in the late 70's and 80's. :thumbsup:

In pop music no one will. There are plenty of killer players in modern metal but they do not play music that connects with the masses like Katy Perry and Lady ga-ga do....... :cry: :cry:
 
Woodsie":gbvbb00d said:
TrueTone500":gbvbb00d said:
We had a great metal scene here in Central Florida... Enter the drug 'Ecstasy'. Within 1-2 years nearly every bar that had once featured live bands were being converted into rave bars playing 'acid house' music....:aww: It has not recovered.

Ever hear of a band Out of Orlando called Old Fashioned Beatdown? The guitar player is my brother. They spent a bunch of years in the Orlando area and had a pretty big fan base so they decided to take they're act to LA. My bro moved back to MA a few years ago. I guess it ain't easy in LA. All the pay to play stuff is true. The band ended up splitting up. He did meet a lot of rock stars though and used to gig with Five Finger Death Punch.
I have heard of them, and I believe they use to play The Haven from time to time.
 
This thread made me re-watch this.
The first 15 minutes or so are focused on the Strip.
It's literally unrecognizable from this time! :lol: :LOL:

 
TrueTone500":25f1jvv8 said:
Woodsie":25f1jvv8 said:
TrueTone500":25f1jvv8 said:
We had a great metal scene here in Central Florida... Enter the drug 'Ecstasy'. Within 1-2 years nearly every bar that had once featured live bands were being converted into rave bars playing 'acid house' music....:aww: It has not recovered.

Ever hear of a band Out of Orlando called Old Fashioned Beatdown? The guitar player is my brother. They spent a bunch of years in the Orlando area and had a pretty big fan base so they decided to take they're act to LA. My bro moved back to MA a few years ago. I guess it ain't easy in LA. All the pay to play stuff is true. The band ended up splitting up. He did meet a lot of rock stars though and used to gig with Five Finger Death Punch.
I have heard of them, and I believe they use to play The Haven from time to time.

Probably.
 
Enjolras56":1yy8jm9f said:
Ahh... The Strip.

My band has played an average of once every 1-2 months there for the past 4 1/2 years including The Whisky, Viper Room, and The Roxy.
It's funny... the "oooh" factor those names have to the general public. When you tell your friends you're playing there, many think that somehow you've "made it." :no: :lol: :LOL:

What can I say that hasn't already been said? It is what it is.

Generally, if you want to play a decent night (Friday or Saturday) you pay in the neighborhood of $600-700+.
You ask your network of friends/fans to drive out to the hard-to-get-to "West-side", pay $10-15 per ticket to hopefully at least break even on your expense, pay $7-10 for parking for your short-lived set.

The set?
You get a 30-35 minute slot on a night with about 6 other bands that can range from an acoustic singer-songwriter, to a punky poppy hard rock band like us, to an androgenous she-male electronica artist singing to track-only, to a progressive metal band. Yes, we've played nights like this. And as Darren said, the quality of bands can range from hacks who just want to say they played there and can pay, to great bands with or without a following.
You stand by, waiting for the previous band's set to end, then you have 15 minutes to load your stuff on stage and hopefully get a line check, while the sound man frequently says "we're cutting into your set guys."
Soundcheck? Even if they do it, you better get there 4-5pm, even if your set is at 10pm.
Oh and that 30-35 minute set can get arbitrarily cut short for one reason or another.

The scene? Non-existent. I was too young to have been hanging out there in the glorious 70's-80's hey-dey. From what I understand it had an energy, it was crawling with people of all sorts checking out bands, and the bands that played there were actually of quality. I'd love to hear more from you guys that lived it!

It was a rude awakening to me to find out that NO ONE goes to these clubs just to hang and check out bands. It's near impossible to build a following this way. Yes, I believe you should do your part in building a crowd but I thinks the clubs have a responsibility to better screen the artists they let play there and to do some buzz-build or promotion.
On any given night, one band can PACK the house. As soon as their set ends, there's a mass exodus as the other band sets up, and there can sadly be no more than five of their buddies left cheering them on.
We've built our following slowly with friends of friends and the lucky nights where crowds for other bands happen to catch our set. Most nights we at least break even, but we've have our share of being in the negative.

So why have we been doing it?
The goal from the beginning has been to build a tight, well-produced show to hopefully set up an industry "showcase" night. Invite them out, and we'll have a good sized stage with a good sound system and lighting, which these places do provide, to present our show as professionally as possible. The Cat Club (RIP) which mightwarlock mentioned was free and had a cool vibe, but the sound man also double as the bartender and that wasn't cutting it for us.
It's taken quite a long time for us to find out that "they" just don't come out. My singer has worked her butt off to network and get them aware of us, but it just hasn't happened.
From what I understand, "the industry" is more likely to start paying attention to you based on your number of Facebook likes, Twitter followers, and YouTube views.

Oh well... I'm not completely complaining here. I'm just trying to represent what the experience is like playing on the famed Strip in the current day. It's a lot of fun playing those stages. We just can't afford to keep doing it any longer.

as I mentioned earlier, I am moving to LA within a month for a new job so thank you for the insight.. While I was visiting LA (interviewing for the job), I went to the whiskey and saw bands play from about 8 till 10ish and then I left because the band was so horrible. The first 2 bands nearly packed the place and they were a bunch of high schoolers (WTF? :lol: :LOL: ).... Tickets were $13 which I thought was fair tho.

Too bad people dont seem to follow bands anymore, really pathetic. :aww:
 
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