Soldano slo 100

[kirk19]

Hey

So I know the old Soldano is no more... I think they will reissue the most important models like the slo 100 with BAD. But what is up with the crazy prices on old slo's lately. I see them on reverb for 5K plus but are they selling for that ???

Seems crazy... Supply and demand or temporarily craziness before the BAD amps come out?

What are your thoughts ?

Thanks

 

[scottosan]

Hey

So I know the old Soldano is no more... I think they will reissue the most important models like the slo 100 with BAD. But what is up with the crazy prices on old slo's lately. I see them on reverb for 5K plus but are they selling for that ???

Seems crazy... Supply and demand or temporarily craziness before the BAD amps come out?

What are your thoughts ?

Thanks

Yes. My friend sold his for $5200 last week

 

[Racerxrated]

Yet, I've seen a couple go for relatively 'normal' prices too within the last 6 mos. Under 3K.

I'd imagine the craziness will slow down after the new version is released...as long as the magic of the old SLO is still there with the new one, when you put some volume to it.

 

[Dave L]

While I don't think the new SLO100 will impact those top shelf prices (the handful of people buying SLOs for twice the value are much the same guys that already have decided that the new ones will suck) I do think that people soon will realize there still are as many old SLOs around as before Mike retired and sort of un-retired. I doubt the handful of new ones coming out of the shop now and again made much of a difference in the total amount of SLOs in the wild, of which there are more than you might think after 33 years in production, so they will be only ever so slightly more rare now than if Mike had gone on making them like before for another ten years. Once you get away from the forums and Ebay/Reverb the SLO still is 2500, just like it always was.

 

[rstites]

I suspect the prices will come down, but there'll remain a collectors value premium to the original SLO. I can't imagine any situation in which people are going to accept the new SLO to sound the same as the original.

It'll be like the collectiblity of the Mesa MKIIC+ despite Mesa releasing a couple of amps they claim can get that sound and offer a bunch of functionality the original lacks. No matter what there will be die-hards out there driving prices up of the originals.

 

[Philo Beddoe]

The block letter 5150's sound better than the script letter 5150's..

 

[Goat]

As long as BAD uses the same transformer manufacturer, there will be no difference in performance. If I ran the show at BAD, I'd rectify the SLO's poorly positioned effects loop. That alone would make the BAD model more desirable, IMO. I'd also include a resonance control vs offering it as an optional mod.

 

[LP Freak]

The block letter 5150's sound better than the script letter 5150's..

not if you put the same tubes in both.

 

[rstites]

As long as BAD uses the same transformer manufacturer, there will be no difference in performance. If I ran the show at BAD, I'd rectify the SLO's poorly positioned effects loop. That alone would make the BAD model more desirable, IMO. I'd also include a resonance control vs offering it as an optional mod.

It's already been announced that DeYoung has stopped production of the SLO transformers, so the BAD amplifiers will most definitely come with different transformers. Now, it may well be that Mike owns the design of the transformers and can have someone else build transformers to the exact same specs. Even if that happens, people will perceive differences even if it's not there.

I suspect the SLO II will get the loop from the HR25 which seems to be well received, though I don't know. Even there, some claim the location of the loop is critical to the SLO's sound or that any loop detracts from it. I don't have a strong bias there. I own a '93 SLO and never bothered with the loop. I just pull off the DI through a SS power amp as God and Michael S. intended!

 

[Evil Z06]

The block letter 5150's sound better than the script letter 5150's..

not if you put the same tubes in both.

That is actually the truth about the tubes

 

[LP Freak]

The block letter 5150's sound better than the script letter 5150's..

not if you put the same tubes in both.

That is actually the truth about the tubes

I speak only the truth

 

[Goat]

As long as BAD uses the same transformer manufacturer, there will be no difference in performance. If I ran the show at BAD, I'd rectify the SLO's poorly positioned effects loop. That alone would make the BAD model more desirable, IMO. I'd also include a resonance control vs offering it as an optional mod.

It's already been announced that DeYoung has stopped production of the SLO transformers, so the BAD amplifiers will most definitely come with different transformers. Now, it may well be that Mike owns the design of the transformers and can have someone else build transformers to the exact same specs. Even if that happens, people will perceive differences even if it's not there.

I suspect the SLO II will get the loop from the HR25 which seems to be well received, though I don't know. Even there, some claim the location of the loop is critical to the SLO's sound or that any loop detracts from it. I don't have a strong bias there. I own a '93 SLO and never bothered with the loop. I just pull off the DI through a SS power amp as God and Michael S. intended!

I didn't know DeYoung was out? Will be replaced with SLO spec'd Mercury Magnetics, I assume? The DeYoung's were stout, and could easily handle EL34 power tubes. Would be cool if the SLO II were built to handle 2 x 6L6 + 2 x EL34 tubes, like a Boogie. If not both at the same time, bias to run EL34 or 6L6 tubes.

I've owned three SLO amps since 1993. The best sounding, by far, was my orange '93 no loop model. I should have held onto it. The Soldano 4x12 cab was not my favorite. I ended-up using a '73 Marshall cabinet...which I also sold.

 

[Evil Z06]

The block letter 5150's sound better than the script letter 5150's..

not if you put the same tubes in both.

That is actually the truth about the tubes

I speak only the truth

Yes I know Grasshopper
The reason they went from the block to script was a lawsuit from Electro-Voice

 

[rstites]

I didn't know DeYoung was out? Will be replaced with SLO spec'd Mercury Magnetics, I assume? The DeYoung's were stout, and could easily handle EL34 power tubes. Would be cool if the SLO II were built to handle 2 x 6L6 + 2 x EL34 tubes, like a Boogie. If not both at the same time, bias to run EL34 or 6L6 tubes.

I've owned three SLO amps since 1993. The best sounding, by far, was my orange '93 no loop model. I should have held onto it. The Soldano 4x12 cab was not my favorite. I ended-up using a '73 Marshall cabinet...which I also sold.

The DeYoung I've only read on internet forums. I'm just passing on the scuttlebutt here, so perhaps I'm wrong, but people claiming to know Michael Soldano have stated that. I don't think they'll be Mercury Magnetics. That's what're in the Hot Rods. I think they'll go to a more exclusive manufacturer, but again no insider information here.

I've owned my '93 since the late 90's. It has the loop and the standard clean/crunch and bright/normal switches, but otherwise clean. It's the purple that has been so popular for Soldano over the years, and I really wish it was just black. I'm a simple guy, but I'm not going to bother changing it either.

I have two late 70's Marshall 4x12's with the original G12-65's in them. They match up extremely well with the SLO, and just about any amp I've ever paired with them. They've been constants for my rig for over 30 decades now. I've gone through dozens of amplifiers in that time, but have stayed with the same cabs......also, still have my guitars from then!

I don't go through gear like a lot of guys around here. I tend to buy and horde, but don't through nearly as much as a lot of guys. I sold the JMP 2203 that was my core sound when I came the closest to success and have regretted it ever since, so I don't sell things very often.

 

[LP Freak]

I didn't know DeYoung was out? Will be replaced with SLO spec'd Mercury Magnetics, I assume? The DeYoung's were stout, and could easily handle EL34 power tubes. Would be cool if the SLO II were built to handle 2 x 6L6 + 2 x EL34 tubes, like a Boogie. If not both at the same time, bias to run EL34 or 6L6 tubes.

I've owned three SLO amps since 1993. The best sounding, by far, was my orange '93 no loop model. I should have held onto it. The Soldano 4x12 cab was not my favorite. I ended-up using a '73 Marshall cabinet...which I also sold.

The DeYoung I've only read on internet forums. I'm just passing on the scuttlebutt here, so perhaps I'm wrong, but people claiming to know Michael Soldano have stated that. I don't think they'll be Mercury Magnetics. That's what're in the Hot Rods. I think they'll go to a more exclusive manufacturer, but again no insider information here.

I've owned my '93 since the late 90's. It has the loop and the standard clean/crunch and bright/normal switches, but otherwise clean. It's the purple that has been so popular for Soldano over the years, and I really wish it was just black. I'm a simple guy, but I'm not going to bother changing it either.

I have two late 70's Marshall 4x12's with the original G12-65's in them. They match up extremely well with the SLO, and just about any amp I've ever paired with them. They've been constants for my rig for over 30 decades now. I've gone through dozens of amplifiers in that time, but have stayed with the same cabs......also, still have my guitars from then!

I don't go through gear like a lot of guys around here. I tend to buy and horde, but don't through nearly as much as a lot of guys. I sold the JMP 2203 that was my core sound when I came the closest to success and have regretted it ever since, so I don't sell things very often.

C’mon, 30 decades? I think you’re exaggerating.

 

[rstites]

C’mon, 30 decades? I think you’re exaggerating.

Oops, mid-sentence brain fart there. 30 years or 3 decades, but not both.

It's all part of getting old!

 

[Racerxrated]

C’mon, 30 decades? I think you’re exaggerating.

Oops, mid-sentence brain fart there. 30 years or 3 decades, but not both.

It's all part of getting old!

Right?

G12 65s are my fav speaker, with every amp I've owned from Marshall to Mesa. Haven't found an amp that doesn't like them.

 

[rstites]

C’mon, 30 decades? I think you’re exaggerating.

Oops, mid-sentence brain fart there. 30 years or 3 decades, but not both.

It's all part of getting old!

Right?

G12 65s are my fav speaker, with every amp I've owned from Marshall to Mesa. Haven't found an amp that doesn't like them.

So, you're saying that I should put my spares in my Mesa 2x12's I asked about over in my Mesa rack thread, huh.....

That's probably the best thing for me to do, as I don't have to spend any money and I'm never likely to be in a position to need to replace speakers again.

 

[Luca79]

I think people are too worried about transformers...

 

[Junk Yard Dog]

I think people are too worried about transformers...

I talked to Robbie at GC Platinum here in DFW and he heard the new SLO's being made by B.A.D. three weeks ago. They fix everything anyone complained about in the SLO--controls on the front, pedal-friendly FX loop, etc. He said they sound just as good, if not better. I trust Robbie's opinion.

For me, if I was going to buy an SLO, it would be the one's by B.A.D. I use pedals in the loop, though.