SPAM: Anyone looking for a Hotplate?

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Sorry for the SPAM, If anyone is looking for either an 8 ohm or 4 ohm Hotplate I have one of each in stock I'd like to move.

Shoot me a PM or email if you are interested.

Thanks,

George

EDIT The 8 ohm Hotplate is sold.
 
I would think that after Ralph's slave lesson these would be gone and quick :lol: :LOL:
 
Digital Jams":fac69 said:
I would think that after Ralph's slave lesson these would be gone and quick :lol: :LOL:


Hey DigiJams

That gathering looked awsome.

Can you explain the slave this again or how you had it? Its to drive a amp hard without being overly loud right?

i think you had expalined once before but i couldnt follow it cheers boi
 
halford":12f88 said:
Digital Jams":12f88 said:
I would think that after Ralph's slave lesson these would be gone and quick :lol: :LOL:


Hey DigiJams

That gathering looked awsome.

Can you explain the slave this again or how you had it? Its to drive a amp hard without being overly loud right?

i think you had expalined once before but i couldnt follow it cheers boi
Hey Chris,

Slaving is just running the head into a load---thru FX if you want---to a power amp (or another amps power section)---to speakers.

A Hotplate comes in handy for this since it has a "LOAD" setting. Plug your guitar into the amp then instead of plugging the amp into a cabinet, plug it into the Hotplate set on load. On the back of the Hotplate is a line out, hook that up to some FX then out of the FX into a power amp and speakers and you are good to go. That way you are using the whole amp as a preamp. Its cool if you don't mind hauling a bunch of stuff.

I did this years ago using my old Marshall into a Rocktron Juice Extractor, thru some rack fx into an old Macintosh tube power amp for my dry and two Marshall 100 watt power sections for my wet in stereo...it sounded great but WAY too much stuff to move and set up.
 
Greazygeo":9433b said:
A Hotplate comes in handy for this since it has a "LOAD" setting. Plug your guitar into the amp then instead of plugging the amp into a cabinet, plug it into the Hotplate set on load. On the back of the Hotplate is a line out, hook that up to some FX then out of the FX into a power amp and speakers and you are good to go. That way you are using the whole amp as a preamp. Its cool if you don't mind hauling a bunch of stuff.

Hey George,

Thanks for the explanation always wanted to know what this meant.

So... how does this make a amp sound better? i know some amps get there sound from the pre's and other's from the power section.

Thanks for any info

oh yeah, by the way, the Heaven and Hell show was AMAZING :rock:
 
halford":0a100 said:
Greazygeo":0a100 said:
A Hotplate comes in handy for this since it has a "LOAD" setting. Plug your guitar into the amp then instead of plugging the amp into a cabinet, plug it into the Hotplate set on load. On the back of the Hotplate is a line out, hook that up to some FX then out of the FX into a power amp and speakers and you are good to go. That way you are using the whole amp as a preamp. Its cool if you don't mind hauling a bunch of stuff.

Hey George,

Thanks for the explanation always wanted to know what this meant.

So... how does this make a amp sound better? i know some amps get there sound from the pre's and other's from the power section.

Thanks for any info

oh yeah, by the way, the Heaven and Hell show was AMAZING :rock:

When using the entire head as a "preamp", you get the power tube distortion as well, since the signal comes from the speaker output of the amp instead of the "preamp out". Most amps sound better when they are turned up, and this way, you get that sound, with the possibility to control the volume with the slave amp.
 
halford":9d2c2 said:
Greazygeo":9d2c2 said:
A Hotplate comes in handy for this since it has a "LOAD" setting. Plug your guitar into the amp then instead of plugging the amp into a cabinet, plug it into the Hotplate set on load. On the back of the Hotplate is a line out, hook that up to some FX then out of the FX into a power amp and speakers and you are good to go. That way you are using the whole amp as a preamp. Its cool if you don't mind hauling a bunch of stuff.

Hey George,

Thanks for the explanation always wanted to know what this meant.

So... how does this make a amp sound better? i know some amps get there sound from the pre's and other's from the power section.

Thanks for any info

oh yeah, by the way, the Heaven and Hell show was AMAZING :rock:
The reason I did it was to be able to run fx with my old Marshall. I have it tweaked and modded to where it sounds killer, but no FX loop. With slaving, the signal is line level so you can run it into fx and use the whole amp (pre and power) as your preamp.

Some amps sound great up at stupid loud volumes, with slaving you can run it at that level and have the speaker volume anywhere you want.

Now there are amps with really good FX loops, so slaving (to me) isn't necessary.


Wasn't the light show killer! The show is out on DVD now, they have been running an hour of it on VH1 classic. Pretty cool.
 
Hey guys thanks for your comments.

I have a 5150 and its way too loud but want to crank it because it sounds better at higher volumes. Im looking at getting another head, or power amp to go with my MP-1 so might look into this.

Can this be achived with good results from a 5150?

Greazygeo":f0e2a said:
Now there are amps with really good FX loops, so slaving (to me) isn't necessary.

Wasn't the light show killer! The show is out on DVD now, they have been running an hour of it on VH1 classic. Pretty cool.

Why isnt slaving nessacy with amps with good fx loops? is it because you can control the volume with things that are in your effects loop?

Like crank the amp, and lower the volume on something in your effects loop?


Oh man, the bit in the song Heaven and Hell with all the lights off and only a red light on Dio was amazing haha how does the footage look from the gig?
 
Why isnt slaving nessacy with amps with good fx loops? is it because you can control the volume with things that are in your effects loop?

Like crank the amp, and lower the volume on something in your effects loop?


Oh man, the bit in the song Heaven and Hell with all the lights off and only a red light on Dio was amazing haha how does the footage look from the gig?
The only reason I was slaving back then was to get my fx added to my basic amp tone. I tried alot of amps / preamps but could never get the sound of my Marshall.
Alot of amps back then (and some still) have/ had poor fx loops, so that when fx were run thru the loop the basic tone of the amp would change. With slaving you could get around it. You can use it to reduce volume too. Run the amp loud but power amp/ speakers low...

The DVD looks pretty good, not the same effect with the lighting though. For some reason there is rhythm gtr behind the solos? I don't remember if there was any there or not.
 
halford":9bcc3 said:
Hey guys thanks for your comments.

I have a 5150 and its way too loud but want to crank it because it sounds better at higher volumes. Im looking at getting another head, or power amp to go with my MP-1 so might look into this.

Can this be achived with good results from a 5150?

Greazygeo":9bcc3 said:
Now there are amps with really good FX loops, so slaving (to me) isn't necessary.

Wasn't the light show killer! The show is out on DVD now, they have been running an hour of it on VH1 classic. Pretty cool.

Why isnt slaving nessacy with amps with good fx loops? is it because you can control the volume with things that are in your effects loop?

Like crank the amp, and lower the volume on something in your effects loop?


Oh man, the bit in the song Heaven and Hell with all the lights off and only a red light on Dio was amazing haha how does the footage look from the gig?

If the 5150 is too loud at it's sweet point for you slaving would be perfect, you can get that cooking amp tone at even tv volumes and sustain that will not end. The problem is what George stated and you gig...more crap to load up. YOu ue the 2nd amp as your master and the beauty of the boogies is that BOTH eqs work so you can tweak the input into the sloave and then use the slave eq as well.
 
Digital Jams":bd948 said:
halford":bd948 said:
Hey guys thanks for your comments.

I have a 5150 and its way too loud but want to crank it because it sounds better at higher volumes. Im looking at getting another head, or power amp to go with my MP-1 so might look into this.

Can this be achived with good results from a 5150?

Greazygeo":bd948 said:
Now there are amps with really good FX loops, so slaving (to me) isn't necessary.

Wasn't the light show killer! The show is out on DVD now, they have been running an hour of it on VH1 classic. Pretty cool.

Why isnt slaving nessacy with amps with good fx loops? is it because you can control the volume with things that are in your effects loop?

Like crank the amp, and lower the volume on something in your effects loop?


Oh man, the bit in the song Heaven and Hell with all the lights off and only a red light on Dio was amazing haha how does the footage look from the gig?

If the 5150 is too loud at it's sweet point for you slaving would be perfect, you can get that cooking amp tone at even tv volumes and sustain that will not end. The problem is what George stated and you gig...more crap to load up. YOu ue the 2nd amp as your master and the beauty of the boogies is that BOTH eqs work so you can tweak the input into the sloave and then use the slave eq as well.

Hey Digi

Ok im understanding. One more thing... i thought amp's get nice sweet tone when they are cranked...that is,he power section cranked... or is it the pre amp section when cranked?

Because in the scenernio you are describing, it sounds like the pe is getting cranked, and controlling the volume with the power amp that is slaved.

I know the 5150 get's its sound from the pe ap section. i thought it was the power amp section but...i read in a few places i was wrong.


l;et me know if im on the wriong track anywhere.

Cheres for the info its gold :thumbsup:



is that correct?
 
When using a hotplate as the load you are getting the sum of all parts, pre and power amp tone and since that it what you are hearing while playing the amp straight that is the signal that you want to go to the slave. Once you dial in what you like then slave it, the slave amp is just using the power section so you should be just amplifying the orginal signal with very little coloring of the tone.
 
4 ohm Hotplate still available....come on all you slaving maniacs!! :)
 
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