SPLAWN QUICKROD 100 Loop volume question

[Fret-Shredder]

For those with a Quickrod and use this feature please chime in. I hear that for playing at low volume that this feature is a must. I dont understand how it helps with keeping your high gain tone great at low volume playing. I play mostly in my living room so low volume great tone is important to me. So plugging straight into the Quickrod you cant get great high gain tone at low volume? Can someone please elaborate for me on how the Loop volume accomplishes this. Thank you.

 

[Nitrobattery]

For those with a Quickrod and use this feature please chime in. I hear that for playing at low volume that this feature is a must. I dont understand how it helps with keeping your high gain tone great at low volume playing. I play mostly in my living room so low volume great tone is important to me. So plugging straight into the Quickrod you cant get great high gain tone at low volume? Can someone please elaborate for me on how the Loop volume accomplishes this. Thank you.

Indeed. You'll want to run the channel volume on the amp higher, and use the loop master volume to keep things quiet. The older QR's without the loop master volume are quite possibly the loudest 100w amps I'ver ever heard. It basically goes from 'off' to 'exploding small animals' levels.

For what its worth, I liked the loop master volume on the QR so much I sold my attenuator. It really does sound great.

 

[Fret-Shredder]

For those with a Quickrod and use this feature please chime in. I hear that for playing at low volume that this feature is a must. I dont understand how it helps with keeping your high gain tone great at low volume playing. I play mostly in my living room so low volume great tone is important to me. So plugging straight into the Quickrod you cant get great high gain tone at low volume? Can someone please elaborate for me on how the Loop volume accomplishes this. Thank you.

Indeed. You'll want to run the channel volume on the amp higher, and use the loop master volume to keep things quiet. The older QR's without the loop master volume are quite possibly the loudest 100w amps I'ver ever heard. It basically goes from 'off' to 'exploding small animals' levels.

For what its worth, I liked the loop master volume on the QR so much I sold my attenuator. It really does sound great.

Sorry if this is a dumb question but what if you are not using any effects into the effects loop. Just plugging straight into the amp. Does the loop volume still help when playing at low volumes?

 

[MetalHeadMike]

I don't know how the loop volume works from a technical standpoint, but from the users perspective it works amazingly well. Only surpassed by the Wizard, the Quickrod I just sold was the fullest, most 3D most punchy "low volume playing" or "bedroom" amps I've ever played. Of course like all tube amps the true nature of the beast is not revealed until it's cranked But compared to the many amps I've owned the QR is top of the heap if someone "needs" the ability to play at "bedroom" levels while still achieving a thick, punchy, satisfying tone.

 

[crwnedblasphemy]

Its not a must, but it helps. I have had Quickrods without loop volume controls and i played mine all the time in An apartment. Trick is, to run it through a rack unit. I liked the rocktron xpression. Then u can use/bypass effects and use the in/out controls on the effects unit to attenuate it. Works very well.

Now days if you dont want to do that, use a reactive load or a two notes live or something

 

[GtarLover]

For the OP
You don't have to have effects running through the loop necessarily.
I had my few pedals out front and simply engaged the loop for the volume control it provides.
Even with a 4X12 in a club it helps to tame the volume.

As was mentioned, older models didn't have this feature and for me were less flexible. Sound amazing, just less flexible.
I own 2 "newer" QR's and use them for live applications, yet still have my 2006 for those moments when I just want to be as loud as a Van Halen show in the early 80's

 

[RedB4Black]

For those with a Quickrod and use this feature please chime in. I hear that for playing at low volume that this feature is a must. I dont understand how it helps with keeping your high gain tone great at low volume playing. I play mostly in my living room so low volume great tone is important to me. So plugging straight into the Quickrod you cant get great high gain tone at low volume? Can someone please elaborate for me on how the Loop volume accomplishes this. Thank you.

Indeed. You'll want to run the channel volume on the amp higher, and use the loop master volume to keep things quiet. The older QR's without the loop master volume are quite possibly the loudest 100w amps I'ver ever heard. It basically goes from 'off' to 'exploding small animals' levels.

For what its worth, I liked the loop master volume on the QR so much I sold my attenuator. It really does sound great.

Sorry if this is a dumb question but what if you are not using any effects into the effects loop. Just plugging straight into the amp. Does the loop volume still help when playing at low volumes?

Run a cable from the FX send directly back to the FX return

 

[Fret-Shredder]

For those with a Quickrod and use this feature please chime in. I hear that for playing at low volume that this feature is a must. I dont understand how it helps with keeping your high gain tone great at low volume playing. I play mostly in my living room so low volume great tone is important to me. So plugging straight into the Quickrod you cant get great high gain tone at low volume? Can someone please elaborate for me on how the Loop volume accomplishes this. Thank you.

Indeed. You'll want to run the channel volume on the amp higher, and use the loop master volume to keep things quiet. The older QR's without the loop master volume are quite possibly the loudest 100w amps I'ver ever heard. It basically goes from 'off' to 'exploding small animals' levels.

For what its worth, I liked the loop master volume on the QR so much I sold my attenuator. It really does sound great.

Sorry if this is a dumb question but what if you are not using any effects into the effects loop. Just plugging straight into the amp. Does the loop volume still help when playing at low volumes?

Run a cable from the FX send directly back to the FX return

So this wont hurt the amp internally? But will allow you to control the Volume on the effects loop to control the overall volume? If so cool.

 

[paulyc]

OP, the amp sounds thicker with the front volumes up and the loop cuts the volume to manage it .

 

[Fret-Shredder]

OP, the amp sounds thicker with the front volumes up and the loop cuts the volume to manage it .

Right on.

 

[RedB4Black]

For those with a Quickrod and use this feature please chime in. I hear that for playing at low volume that this feature is a must. I dont understand how it helps with keeping your high gain tone great at low volume playing. I play mostly in my living room so low volume great tone is important to me. So plugging straight into the Quickrod you cant get great high gain tone at low volume? Can someone please elaborate for me on how the Loop volume accomplishes this. Thank you.

Indeed. You'll want to run the channel volume on the amp higher, and use the loop master volume to keep things quiet. The older QR's without the loop master volume are quite possibly the loudest 100w amps I'ver ever heard. It basically goes from 'off' to 'exploding small animals' levels.

For what its worth, I liked the loop master volume on the QR so much I sold my attenuator. It really does sound great.

Sorry if this is a dumb question but what if you are not using any effects into the effects loop. Just plugging straight into the amp. Does the loop volume still help when playing at low volumes?

Run a cable from the FX send directly back to the FX return

So this wont hurt the amp internally? But will allow you to control the Volume on the effects loop to control the overall volume? If so cool.

correct

 

[SpiderWars]

I usually use a clean boost in the loop for any amp for leads/etc. I use it the other way too, i.e. set the amp channel masters and master volume to where the amp sounds good and then use the clean boost to reduce overall volume. Similar result to having a loop return level.

 

[Marshall Freak]

For those with a Quickrod and use this feature please chime in. I hear that for playing at low volume that this feature is a must. I dont understand how it helps with keeping your high gain tone great at low volume playing. I play mostly in my living room so low volume great tone is important to me. So plugging straight into the Quickrod you cant get great high gain tone at low volume? Can someone please elaborate for me on how the Loop volume accomplishes this. Thank you.

Indeed. You'll want to run the channel volume on the amp higher, and use the loop master volume to keep things quiet. The older QR's without the loop master volume are quite possibly the loudest 100w amps I'ver ever heard. It basically goes from 'off' to 'exploding small animals' levels.

For what its worth, I liked the loop master volume on the QR so much I sold my attenuator. It really does sound great.

Sorry if this is a dumb question but what if you are not using any effects into the effects loop. Just plugging straight into the amp. Does the loop volume still help when playing at low volumes?

I dont think you even have to have a cable in it. I've had quite a few Quick Rods and have a 50 watt Quick Rod now but it's where we practice so I cant check right now. I usually have something in the loop, but I played it here at home a while back and I dont yhink i had anything in it.

 

[Marshall Freak]

As far as how it works, I think it's just like putting a volume pedal or eq in the loop and turning it down.

It does work well, and will get down to bedroom levels but... it does lose a bit of tone. Maybe it sounds a little dull compared, or the highs roll off, not sure how to describe it. It's still got 90% or better of the tone, and if you use some delay in the loop or a boost or anything it seems to help a lot. Really great amps.

 

[napalmdeath]

For those with a Quickrod and use this feature please chime in. I hear that for playing at low volume that this feature is a must. I dont understand how it helps with keeping your high gain tone great at low volume playing. I play mostly in my living room so low volume great tone is important to me. So plugging straight into the Quickrod you cant get great high gain tone at low volume? Can someone please elaborate for me on how the Loop volume accomplishes this. Thank you.

Indeed. You'll want to run the channel volume on the amp higher, and use the loop master volume to keep things quiet. The older QR's without the loop master volume are quite possibly the loudest 100w amps I'ver ever heard. It basically goes from 'off' to 'exploding small animals' levels.

For what its worth, I liked the loop master volume on the QR so much I sold my attenuator. It really does sound great.

Ain't that the truth. I had an '05, and that thing was stupid loud. I ran a 10-band EQ in the loop and lowered the volume/gain sliders to tame it, but it neutered the tone. I ended up selling it because it was basically unusable in that regard. The loop master on the Competition I had was way better. Works perfectly!

 

[paulyc]

I had a pre loop volume QR but made a volume drop box for it, just a box with 2 jacks and a volume pot, worked the same.

 

[fusedbrain]

I had a pre loop volume QR but made a volume drop box for it, just a box with 2 jacks and a volume pot, worked the same.

What would be the best value pot to use for this application?
I'm using one I made up with a 100k pot, and it seems to work ok for low volume home practising, but just wondering if there is a better value for the volume pot.

 

[MetalHeadMike]

As far as how it works, I think it's just like putting a volume pedal or eq in the loop and turning it down.

It does work well, and will get down to bedroom levels but... it does lose a bit of tone. Maybe it sounds a little dull compared, or the highs roll off, not sure how to describe it. It's still got 90% or better of the tone, and if you use some delay in the loop or a boost or anything it seems to help a lot. Really great amps.

I never experienced any tone loss with mine

 

[SpiderWars]

As far as how it works, I think it's just like putting a volume pedal or eq in the loop and turning it down.

It does work well, and will get down to bedroom levels but... it does lose a bit of tone. Maybe it sounds a little dull compared, or the highs roll off, not sure how to describe it. It's still got 90% or better of the tone, and if you use some delay in the loop or a boost or anything it seems to help a lot. Really great amps.

I never experienced any tone loss with mine

I can see a volume pedal losing a bit of tone, depending on the amp and volume pedal pot value they can do that. I use an RC Boost.

I think a 1M pot would generally insure you aren't loading down the circuit. I would expect a 100K pot to load it down too much and a 250K as well. 500K might or might not. But it all depends on the amp circuit.

 

[GJgo]

I have the loop volume in the 22W Super Sport I'm selling. No cable needed, it works fantastic, but at this wattage you don't really "need" it. This is the best <50w amp I've ever played- at full tilt it's just at rock drummer volume & it sounds killer all the way up.
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