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Hi Steve :D

After triple checking everything (and being confused with some LED wiring) I can't find an error somewhere. :)

The only thing I would think about is to install an extra transformer for your 6V supply to avaoid popping and overstressing the heater-winding. With 10 relays or so I think its better to use a small 6V AC tranny and use a voltage regulator - just a suggestion though, I know that Peter, back when he modded Marshalls, had no problem to hook 12 ECC83 to a standard Marshall transformer and suck almost 10 Ampêres from it - all of them still running until today of course :D
 
Question for Steve and/or Olaf: what, if any, program are you guys using to make that drawings ? I'm in the very early stages of planning a board lay-out for an ampbuild and it would be cool to be able to do that on the computer. The crayon and eraser gets real old real fast....

Thanks !

Giga.
 
You have to ask Steve - I'm still a handdrawer, cause I'm too lazy :D
 
I was just reading some of this yesterday. :yes: Very cool. cant wait to hear how she comes out. :thumbsup:
 
duesentrieb":2kgasjyw said:
Hi Steve :D

After triple checking everything (and being confused with some LED wiring) I can't find an error somewhere. :)

The only thing I would think about is to install an extra transformer for your 6V supply to avaoid popping and overstressing the heater-winding. With 10 relays or so I think its better to use a small 6V AC tranny and use a voltage regulator - just a suggestion though, I know that Peter, back when he modded Marshalls, had no problem to hook 12 ECC83 to a standard Marshall transformer and suck almost 10 Ampêres from it - all of them still running until today of course :D
That is awesome, Olaf! I'm glad things appear to be correct! So, if I want separate power for the relays, the 6V AC tranny would be like one of these with the correct Ampere rating:

6V AC trannys

Thanks so much for taking all the time to check this out, man. I'm glad the footswitch was correct!

Steve
 
Giga":1ydkikb9 said:
Question for Steve and/or Olaf: what, if any, program are you guys using to make that drawings ? I'm in the very early stages of planning a board lay-out for an ampbuild and it would be cool to be able to do that on the computer. The crayon and eraser gets real old real fast....

Thanks !

Giga.
Hey Giga!

I use the free version of Eagle schematic software. Note though that I had to create some of my own components to do tube amp design (the tubes, relays and a bunch of other stuff that didn't come in the libraries. Also the program generates PCB layouts automatically, but it doesn't really handle board layout. For that, most people just use a drawing program like powerpoint or photoshop or illustrator. However, if you want to draw circuit schematics like what I've been posting, Eagle is awesome. Here is a link to the freeware version and it's download page:

Eagle schematic freeware

If you end up getting this, I'd be happy to share my tube amp library with you. Lemme know...

Steve
 
stephen sawall":2xa1lkko said:
I was just reading some of this yesterday. :yes: Very cool. cant wait to hear how she comes out. :thumbsup:
Well, now I have to punch all the holes in an Marshall 100W blank chassis by hand since mine has way different controls. I also have to have someone make me some custom plexi panels and eventually I'll need a custom headbox when I've got things tweaked the way I like it. I'm excited about this project, though! I'll keep people apprised of progress here!

Steve
 
sah5150":1skciaax said:
duesentrieb":1skciaax said:
Hi Steve :D

After triple checking everything (and being confused with some LED wiring) I can't find an error somewhere. :)

The only thing I would think about is to install an extra transformer for your 6V supply to avaoid popping and overstressing the heater-winding. With 10 relays or so I think its better to use a small 6V AC tranny and use a voltage regulator - just a suggestion though, I know that Peter, back when he modded Marshalls, had no problem to hook 12 ECC83 to a standard Marshall transformer and suck almost 10 Ampêres from it - all of them still running until today of course :D
That is awesome, Olaf! I'm glad things appear to be correct! So, if I want separate power for the relays, the 6V AC tranny would be like one of these with the correct Ampere rating:

6V AC trannys

Thanks so much for taking all the time to check this out, man. I'm glad the footswitch was correct!

Steve
It was fun, Steve. I hope you will be successful with this monster :D

Yeah, those trannies are fine. 1A should be fine.

AC into bridge rectifier into 1000µF electrolytic then 330nF then a 7806 with diode then 220nF - I'll post a schem for a regulated supply.
 
Here:

6V AC instead of 21V
1000µF instead of 2200µF (use a 16 or 25V electrolytic)
330nF
7806 + diode
100nF
1k
diode
= 6V of perfect DC

Place that somewhere close to the PT (f.i. on the side of the chassis on a small board).
 

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duesentrieb":2enxz7st said:
Here:

6V AC instead of 21V
1000µF instead of 2200µF (use a 16 or 25V electrolytic)
330nF
7806 + diode
100nF
1k
diode
= 6V of perfect DC

Place that somewhere close to the PT (f.i. on the side of the chassis on a small board).
Olaf - YOU RULE! Thanks again!

Steve
 
duesentrieb":qkfzlrla said:
It was fun, Steve. I hope you will be successful with this monster :D
Thanks man! It certainly has been fun so far and I've learned A LOT from your help!

Steve
 
About the punching (if you shouldn't know that already):

a) get a stand driller - the slower it turns, the better. adjustable rpm. 100-200rpm is ok.

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b) for the socket holes a step driller

ruko-stufenbohrer.jpg


and believe me: thats the part I hate the most - drilling into steel :D :confused: :doh: :rock:
 
sah5150":n7xj6pa2 said:
Giga":n7xj6pa2 said:
Question for Steve and/or Olaf: what, if any, program are you guys using to make that drawings ? I'm in the very early stages of planning a board lay-out for an ampbuild and it would be cool to be able to do that on the computer. The crayon and eraser gets real old real fast....

Thanks !

Giga.
Hey Giga!

I use the free version of Eagle schematic software. Note though that I had to create some of my own components to do tube amp design (the tubes, relays and a bunch of other stuff that didn't come in the libraries. Also the program generates PCB layouts automatically, but it doesn't really handle board layout. For that, most people just use a drawing program like powerpoint or photoshop or illustrator. However, if you want to draw circuit schematics like what I've been posting, Eagle is awesome. Here is a link to the freeware version and it's download page:

Eagle schematic freeware

If you end up getting this, I'd be happy to share my tube amp library with you. Lemme know...

Steve

Thanks Steve, I'll get into that...

Giga.
 
duesentrieb":olhrq04f said:
About the punching (if you shouldn't know that already):

a) get a stand driller - the slower it turns, the better. adjustable rpm. 100-200rpm is ok.

DetailFoto1.jpg


b) for the socket holes a step driller

ruko-stufenbohrer.jpg


and believe me: thats the part I hate the most - drilling into steel :D :confused: :doh: :rock:
I'm all set on this Olaf. I have a set of Greenlee punches for the larger holes (caps tubes), an rpm adjustable bench drill press and a set of specialized cutting tools for the smaller holes. I've already tested all this out on a spare chassis I have at home and I can drill or punch clean holes of all the sizes needed for this amp. I'm going to use an aluminum chassis for the prototype at least...

Steve
 
Giga":1bau5j78 said:
I'll give you a tip guys; you need something like this: http://www.dpsbv.com/index.php?eID=tx_c ... e5acee27fd Saves you a drillingmachine and the drill (= expensive)

Giga.
You'll still need a drill press to use these to get things accurate because you need a real accurate center hole to use those punches and they don't come in small enough sizes for some of the holes. That looks exactly like the Greenlee punches I have...

Steve
 
sah5150":2jywesmq said:
Giga":2jywesmq said:
I'll give you a tip guys; you need something like this: http://www.dpsbv.com/index.php?eID=tx_c ... e5acee27fd Saves you a drillingmachine and the drill (= expensive)

Giga.
You'll still need a drill press to use these to get things accurate because you need a real accurate center hole to use those punches and they don't come in small enough sizes for some of the holes. That looks exactly like the Greenlee punches I have...

Steve

Yeah, I know... I was only referring to f.i. your tubesocket holes and assuming you could drill the smaller ones with a handheld or even a battery drill

Giga.
 
Cool.

But if you should want to add DC heaters, let me know, I've just built them into this very first Einstein-Combo-Proto, which Peter gave me to make an amp out of it again . . .
 

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duesentrieb":rahhappl said:
Cool.

But if you should want to add DC heaters, let me know, I've just built them into this very first Einstein-Combo-Proto, which Peter gave me to make an amp out of it again . . .
This would reduce hum, correct? I'm certainly interested! How did you do it? Thanks for the pictures, but I have to be honest - with the lighting it is pretty hard to see what is going on... ;)

Steve
 
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