Stevie Ray who?

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Question re SRV ....

What pickups did he swear by, in all his strats??

Keith
 
I dont understand the baggin on SRV. I thought he was very good player along with alot the other ones you mentioned. They all were great at what they did including Stevie IHMO.
 
carlygtr56":102kij5t said:
The SRV references in the Jack Bruce/ Zep thread are amusing. His severly limited bag of licks (repeated endlessly) would have dried up quick in a Cream type band.

But :gay: guy, you seem to forget that SRV actually knew his circle of 5th's and knew how to play complex bluesy chord structures. You have no idea or knowledge of chord structure. You're simply a pillaging bathroom wanker...
 
id rather listen to SRV than Cream anyday of the week. not baggin on cream either, but that would be my preference.
 
I think with SRV it was more about the intensity that he played with more than what he played.
 
dstroud":3unjjsl7 said:
I think with SRV it was more about the intensity that he played with more than what he played.

Stevie just didnt play the same thing over and over. People who say that have to make something like that up because they want to hate on him anyway.
 
Stratboy151":3punmix0 said:
id rather listen to SRV than Cream anyday of the week. not baggin on cream either, but that would be my preference.

I like SRV and Cream. IMHO Stevie is/was a much better guitar player than Clapton ever was.
 
Carl, youve said that SRV is nothing more than an overrated bar player who got lucky. He wears his influences on his sleeves, no 2 ways about it but he brought a bunch of his own thing into it as well IMO. Hes obviously influenced a buttload of players, most notably that cockslap John Mayer. Talk about a guy with no identity that should just fade away or that got lucky...

I dug the guy and I remember when I went to see him and Jeff Beck at MSG, Jeff was touring behind Guitar Shop and he opened that night, I was second row and was going to leave after his set. I decided to stay for one song of SRV and then it ended up being 2 songs and then the whole thing. I was a huge JB fan back then and you may not believe me but SRV blew Jeff away that nght, it was an unreal show...
 
danyeo":13vnvfvy said:
Stratboy151":13vnvfvy said:
id rather listen to SRV than Cream anyday of the week. not baggin on cream either, but that would be my preference.

I like SRV and Cream. IMHO Stevie is/was a much better guitar player than Clapton ever was.

+1

I think Clapton himself would be the first to acknowlege SRV was the better player; regardless of ones personnel prefrence.

Theres the famous story of the night SRV was killed. SRV had opened for Clapton at Alpine Valley; Clapton watched SRV's performace at the side of the stage and was like, "how am I supposed to follow that?"
 
If you recall, Stevie's first release Texas Flood got a horrible review in Guitar World magazine. Bruce Malamut really put his playing down, criticizing his creativity, skill, background, etc. Basically called him out as a white guy faking his way through. Once he started to get a following in the guitar community, the magazine quickly reversed their view.

I happen to be a very big SRV fan. Got to see him about a week after Texas Flood came out and I was blown away by his stage presence, attitude, skill, etc...but there are times when I wonder how a non-guitar player can sit through a 2 hour concert.

Just last week, I saw an old "Rockplast" concert on TV (the show was mid 80's somewhere in Europe), and he just came out and absolutely slayed his guitar for 90 minutes, but even after the third song, I was starting to get bored. I continued to watch though, basically in awe of his attack. He was fierce.
 
I admit that I'm a blues noob. But whenever I watch Stevie play, that guitar isn't an instrument, it's a medium for him to channel his energy.
 
carlygtr56":929gjmmh said:
That was EC of the 90's talking about SRV. EC of the 90's was hardly playing straight up blues and when he did he was just a shell of his Cream days.
Now if you listen to enough SRV, and i have. I have tons of live video/audeo, you hear the same licks repeated over and over. Listen to Texas Flood. Every time it gets to the turn around, he plays the same bag.
He wasn't much of an improvisor IMO. SRV "improvised" by playing his stock licks. Cream and jJmi by playing stuff off the top of their heads....something new rather then cycle a few licks repeatedly.

IMO, SRV cant touch '67 era Clapton. In tone, improv, etc

http://www.supload.com/music/Sleepy-Tim ... 3J9I7.html


I too am a HUGE student of SRV. I played in a SRV Tribute band (just a local thing) that was together 97-2001. I know where your coming from and you have a valid point. But for me and others I just relate to and connect with SRV a lot more than Clapton (any era).

Clapton is great no dought, but SRV hits me hard.

Mike
 
I think towards the end of his drinking and drugging SRV's playing did start to suffer a little. The last two years and albums (Family Style, In Step) of his life after he sobered up more than proved SRV was no hack and could cover alot of territory when he wanted. Hell, "Sky is Crying" was post humorus and a collection of a lot of stuff he'd recorded while stlill using that covered alot of ground and didn't recycle alot of old riffs.
 
SRV completely owns Clapton. IMO!! Clapton has never had the energy or killer instinct that SRV had. Clapton is elevator music. SRV is/was a way better showman and just brought fire to the guitar plus he had a much better voice than Clapton.

IMO
 
carlygtr56":2giyftx1 said:
Slaytallica":2giyftx1 said:
SRV completely owns Clapton. IMO!! Clapton has never had the energy or killer instinct that SRV had. Clapton is elevator music. SRV is/was a way better showman and just brought fire to the guitar plus he had a much better voice than Clapton.

IMO


Listen to the 13 minutes and tell me EC has no energy :lol: :LOL:
Then, point me to a SRV tune that completely owns this-

http://www.supload.com/music/Steppin-Ou ... 59G3E.html

First time that I had a nap in a long time...BORING 15 y/o wank!!!
 
carlygtr56":34du18zg said:
Slaytallica":34du18zg said:
SRV completely owns Clapton. IMO!! Clapton has never had the energy or killer instinct that SRV had. Clapton is elevator music. SRV is/was a way better showman and just brought fire to the guitar plus he had a much better voice than Clapton.

IMO


Listen to the 13 minutes and tell me EC has no energy :lol: :LOL:
Then, point me to a SRV tune that completely owns this-

http://www.supload.com/music/Steppin-Ou ... 59G3E.html

Why the hell would I want to download a ringtone? :confused:

Point me to a youtube vid if you don't mind.
 
SQUAREHEAD":cc446fe0 said:
Question re SRV ....

What pickups did he swear by, in all his strats??

Keith

I was told many year's ago by a guitar tech that the SRV Texas Specials were modded Standard strat single coil pickups Bridge 20% more winding than stock, Middle stock with reverse magnets, neck 10% more winding than stock.
& for the record SRV was one of the greatest guitar player's of the 20th century IMHO, just listen to the phrasing in the guy's hands, pretty F@#$ING awesome period.
:thumbsup:
 
Slaytallica":27ng6t1u said:
carlygtr56":27ng6t1u said:
Slaytallica":27ng6t1u said:
SRV completely owns Clapton. IMO!! Clapton has never had the energy or killer instinct that SRV had. Clapton is elevator music. SRV is/was a way better showman and just brought fire to the guitar plus he had a much better voice than Clapton.

IMO


Listen to the 13 minutes and tell me EC has no energy :lol: :LOL:
Then, point me to a SRV tune that completely owns this-

http://www.supload.com/music/Steppin-Ou ... 59G3E.html

Why the hell would I want to download a ringtone? :confused:

Point me to a youtube vid if you don't mind.

Never mind downloaded it. Heard it.

Carl sorry but that was a snooze fest. It didn't do it for me. Tone sucked and the playing was mediocre at best.

I would rather listen to Ace Frehleys "Shock Me" solo than this.

Again I'm not saying Clapton sucks but he just don't do it for me. To me SRV destroys Clapton.
 
I'm a big fan of SRV. BIG fan. I went through a hardcore SRV phase for a couple years where he was almost all I listened to. And I did the same for Clapton/Cream. IMO, if you take the two of them at their primes, Clapton's bag of tricks was much bigger than SRVs. He also eventually developed into a better singer and nowadays, IMO, he's a great singer. Although SRV's vocals were always improving too. SRV was never really a songwriter...none of the straight 12-bar guys really are. So I give Clapton the edge in that regard too. But none of that really means squat if your taste just leads you to prefer SRV. And I can certainly understand why plenty of people do even if I don't. Dude had TONE, and even though his bag of tricks was relatively small, his timing and conviction and touch was perfect for what he was doing. Perfect.
 
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