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+1Slaytallica":3ij1ozs4 said:
vchizzle
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Its been said already, but its the intensity and conviction SRV plays with that does it for me. I do like some Cream, Derek & the Domino's and a bit of his solo stuff. But SRV just kills. He's even severely intense when he's mellow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YIHvK5WN7I
I really couldn't care if he's totally original. I think its pretty well known he bears his influences boldly. I've listened to about 4 clips in this thread... and none say "Stevie Ray who?" to me. There's certainly some good stuff there, but I'll take the vid I posted above, over every bit of it right along with the player playin' it any day of the week.
I really couldn't care if he's totally original. I think its pretty well known he bears his influences boldly. I've listened to about 4 clips in this thread... and none say "Stevie Ray who?" to me. There's certainly some good stuff there, but I'll take the vid I posted above, over every bit of it right along with the player playin' it any day of the week.
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carlygtr56":236n3o3j said:Slaytallica":236n3o3j said:
Listen to the 13 minutes and tell me EC has no energy
Then, point me to a SRV tune that completely owns this-
http://www.supload.com/music/Steppin-Ou ... 59G3E.html
I like that, especially the tone. But to me that's classic rock and i was comparing EC and SRV from a blues perspective. Clapton still sounds like a white guy when he's trying to play Blues and SRV sounds like he has a black man's soul, plus his voice is a lot better than Claptons.
But with the clip above, you can really hear where Eric Johnson got a lot of his inspiration from. That's the tone that Johnson seems like he's going after. I wish he would try and get back the tone fro Cliffs Of Dover though.
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Stratboy151":bh1b7imx said:
ditto
Disraeli Gears was good, but other than that I'd take stevie
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carlygtr56":758sn1gd said:
whats wrong with Feliciano?
are you one of those guys who isn't moved by something unless its blues based?
Marshall Law
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remember Stevie was only known nationally for about 7 years, your comparing him to clapton who has been around now about 43 years, SRV is the shit IMO
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i dont know guys,..srv blatantly ripped off hendrix!!...then i read an article where he says hendrix was more of a showman than a musician!!!...(this was a jimi hendrix tribute guitar player mag)...
so clapton,,,...at one point considered "god" of guitar....who with out a doubt had his own style..his own sound.
and srv,...the white hendrix impersonator?
ask yourselves this...who changed rock and roll guitar more??..clapton? or srv??
who will leave the biggest mark on guitar playing??
we have all seen the hendrix video with jimi playing the white sg playing creams "sunshine of your love"
i think that says everything right there!
so clapton,,,...at one point considered "god" of guitar....who with out a doubt had his own style..his own sound.
and srv,...the white hendrix impersonator?
ask yourselves this...who changed rock and roll guitar more??..clapton? or srv??
who will leave the biggest mark on guitar playing??
we have all seen the hendrix video with jimi playing the white sg playing creams "sunshine of your love"
i think that says everything right there!
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jessexxx":oa44ik37 said:
Clapton moved in more styles/genres than SRV, but to me, the fire SRV has, isn`t surpassed by EC. Like I said in the other thread, EC is a great singer, and a great songwriter, but the guitar is his pen. It was SRV`s sword.
thiswaythatway
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jessexxx":106g7msq said:
Eddie Van Halen is the real answer.
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carlygtr56":364jgh6p said:
YUP!!! Feliciano gives me chills. And? What's your point?
Your talking apples and oranges. Not to mention one guy is blind.
I don't think Clapton could ever pick up a classical guitar and hold his own next to Feliciano, Though I think Feliciano can pick up a strat and rock out with Clapton no problem.
Again I'm not saying Clapton sucks. IMO he just don't do it for me. The same way you probably don't think SRV does it for you. It's a matter of taste.
Some People Like a good Scotch. Some like cheap wine.
Some people like to own their own homes. Others like to live in their mothers basement.
It's all a matter of taste.
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Marshall Law":33ejl39l said:
My feelings exactly.
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carlygtr56":rylrrjai said:
Carl, serious question? why do you think Clapton was so on fire during Cream and never really did anything as powerful later on? Not saying he didn't grow as a player but the Cream era stuff was more I guess RAW,and in your FACE.
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as a rhythm player alone SRV would plow Clapton off of any stage....
the last thing Clapton did that i liked was the "From the Cradle" disc..awesome!
SRV was reaching a new level of songwriting and playing before he died... In step was an amazing disc..
the last thing Clapton did that i liked was the "From the Cradle" disc..awesome!
SRV was reaching a new level of songwriting and playing before he died... In step was an amazing disc..
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carlygtr56":vr2j4jea said:
This is a silly comparison to be made. Who cares who was around longer or known longer? Does being around longer make you better or does not being around longer not make it worthy comparison? Hendrix wasn't around that long and I think anyone could argue he was better than the both of them for many reasons.
I am personally a bigger fan of SRV just because of his passionate playing. Watching him play is just amazing and he really is inspiring to see live. However, if anyone is trying to make the argument that SRV was "better" than Clapton, that seems ubsurd to me. SRV did one thing, and granted he did it well, but it was still nothing that hadn't been done before. He copied others and it can be argued that he improved what he copied in a lot of ways, but it still was in no way original, innovative, or in anyway really "new". Clapton on the other hand not only has created music that can easily be defined as original, but he also has reinvented himself serveral times and isn't just a one trick pony. Saying SRV was a better musician than Clapton is like saying Kenny Wayne Shepard is a better musician than Clapton, because he's just another guy copying something that someone did before him and he's copying it very well and adding a little bit of his own flavour to it.
If you were making the argument of who was a better showman or who put on a better performance, then I could say it's a contest and I would get on board with supporting SRV, but the argument of who is the better musician goes to Clapton every day of the week, regardless of who you personally perfer to listen to. I perfer SRV, but Clapton still gets my vote for better musician.
However, this entire thread is pointless because there isn't any point or argument to be made. It's really become a question of who do you like better, Clapton or SRV and that's it. We're all trying to support our position for who we like better, but in the end it's a matter of opinion and no matter what we say, people are going to perfer who the perfer. It hasn't been a question of who is a better musician or showman and for what reasons, it's simply a question of who do you like better and now it's been turned into a pissing contest.
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SQUAREHEAD":2hce8e1x said:
AFAIK he only used stock pickups. Seeing as he almost exclusively played vintage strats why would he use anything else? They can't be improved on for what they are. He certainly didn't use texas specials, lol.
bravedude2
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didn't srv use a 63' strat?
bbaug14
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bravedude2":2pff4tbs said:
I believe the neck was from a '62 and the body was a '59.
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I'm not much of a SRV or Clapton fan, however, I can appreciate their respective talents. Now days I'm dig'n NEW Trower and Timmons stuff. Hey, there's room for everybody.
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carlygtr56":3i79rase said:
Total BS. If Jimi would have gotten off the smack like SRV then he sure would be burning it up.
Just look a RT in example - Age: 63 years (born March 9, 1945) and last I saw him here in San diego his tone and playing was stupendous and IMO the best playing he ever did in his life other than Robin Trower Live in '76!
