Stock MArshall 1960A Slant w/G12T75's verdict?

[Kapo_Polenton]

So what is the consensus on these cabs?? I see a lot of them going for around the 400$ mark lately... that makes me wonder why.. is it the cabs themselves that feel small or thin or something else? Anyone dig their well broken in 75's? I've heard 75's mixed with g12h30's that I thought sounded pretty good..even V30's.. is it a construction thing that is impacting their sonic qualities these days? I was thinking of getting a custom 1 x 12 cab to go along with my combo but a trip through the classifieds has peaked my interest as i remember liking what I heard from Marshall cabs when i was a lot younger. Never owned one of their 4 x 12's

 

[Anonymous]

they're not bad....for a coupla extra bucks, you can try different speakers in them.

t75's cut through nicely in these cabs...i wouldn't pay a dime over 300$ for a decent shape one though........less than that for beaters.

shit, boogie recto cabs are going between 4-5 right now on CL.

 

[mniel8195]

i would spend the extra 100 to 200 for a boogie cab personally.

 

[LukeCurd]

So what is the consensus on these cabs?? I see a lot of them going for around the 400$ mark lately... that makes me wonder why.. is it the cabs themselves that feel small or thin or something else? Anyone dig their well broken in 75's? I've heard 75's mixed with g12h30's that I thought sounded pretty good..even V30's.. is it a construction thing that is impacting their sonic qualities these days? I was thinking of getting a custom 1 x 12 cab to go along with my combo but a trip through the classifieds has peaked my interest as i remember liking what I heard from Marshall cabs when i was a lot younger. Never owned one of their 4 x 12's

The construction of marshall cabinets is a combo of 1/4 finger joints and a chip board back plate. The cabs flex compaired to more robust designs like diezel and bogner.

Having said all I think they are good sounding cabs. And well worth $350 each with speakers in good condition.

I might pick up a pair my self if I can't find a good deal on a bogner or Deizel Cab 4x12.

Luke

 

[sinnersmoon]

I have played through G12T-75`s couple of times but they`re too scooped to my taste. I didn`t try to mix them with other speakers though.

 

[guitarmike]

Buy a JCM 800 or 900 series cab or older. I would not buy a newer one.

 

[dfrattaroli]

The construction of marshall cabinets is a combo of 1/4 finger joints and a chip board back plate. The cabs flex compaired to more robust designs like diezel and bogner.

Nothing wrong with 1/4" finger joints. You won't get any flex at the corner because of finger joints. It's the particle board back that's the culprit.

 

[singtall]

broken in G12T-75's are nice. i have some from 1986 and they are really warm. i tested mine against a friend's old 1971 greenback loaded cabinet and my speakers sounded similar but had a tad more bass and upper highs, which we both liked better. but i wouldn't call these speakers scooped by any means. the difference in these speakers is that when you use a head, you can turn up the presence and treble....when i tried some 70/80's or V30's i couldn't turn up the presence at all on some heads. it's all about dialing in your tone with no regard to other people's settings.

 

[mixn4him]

Just bought an early 80's 1960a cab that has a set of T75's ( the original 65's were gone) that are very well broken in and it sounds amazing. There were no less then 4 other used 1960a cabs with 75's at the shop and each one sounded very different and none as good as the older cab I bought..Was very surprised because I have never been a fan of T75's but this cab is awesome!

 

[LukeCurd]

The construction of marshall cabinets is a combo of 1/4 finger joints and a chip board back plate. The cabs flex compaired to more robust designs like diezel and bogner.

Nothing wrong with 1/4" finger joints. You won't get any flex at the corner because of finger joints. It's the particle board back that's the culprit.

Not to mention the speaker baffle.

Without going into too much details when it comes to speaker cabs, you really do get what you pay for. And lots of different cabinet designs work well for different players.

I think the shity jcm800 cabs from the 80's with g1265's or g12m70's sound fucking awesome. If you can find them under $400 they are a steal!

Mesa cabs sound boxy to me these days as do most other cabs.

Suhr,Bad Cat,Bogner, all use the same cali builder for their cabs. I know maybe a few others use the same builder but its always quality when I run across these cabs. You might find these in the $600 range used with some v30's.

A green back marshall type cab goes for about $600 these days.

A used Diezel 4x12 is in the $600 ball park.

I'm just advocating searching around.

Luke

 

[sinnersmoon]

broken in G12T-75's are nice. i have some from 1986 and they are really warm. i tested mine against a friend's old 1971 greenback loaded cabinet and my speakers sounded similar but had a tad more bass and upper highs, which we both liked better.

If it were just a tad more that would be great but I found that difference much bigger. Your cab is quite old and I believe well used and according to my knowledge with age the speakers loose some of the highs and harshness and will become smoother, so maybe this is the reason why the difference was not bigger. Or maybe T-75`s now are a bit different than the older ones.
I A/B`d fairly new 1960A and some old Marshall cab from 70`s. The owner did not remember the speakers but they were quite midrange-sounding. And the difference was like night and day. T-75`s were really boomy with piercing highs. The old cab sounded much more natural.
The amps we played through were Marshall AFD100 and Marshall SuperBass 100 (boosted with old Guv`nor and Klon Centaur)

 

[stratotone]

Buy a JCM 800 or 900 series cab or older. I would not buy a newer one.

If you're talking about the construction of the cab, I don't think there have been many if any real changes structurally from the 800 cabs and newer. My '72 cabs have a plywood back panel, my '76 and newer all have MDF.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

While cosmetically the newer better shape cabs look better , I found two guys selling 1960 cabs for 400$. One is pretty much brand new, the other has some scuff marks but is much older and the 75's have really been worked in. I was actually more interested in the broken in cab because I know of the issues with newer cabs and the 75's.. I still think though that with a scuffed and ripped tolexed cab, the guy would have to come down to 350$ at least..

 

[Anonymous]

i've been wondering for years what effect, if any, would there be if i made my own plywood back for my 2 cabs that have MDF backing.

anyone?

im all for trying it...just wondering ahead of time. i've actually been debating this for a really long time.
gonna put the gh100's back in it too, it's x patterned with t75s right now.

 

[TroubledWine]

Funny you mention this. I've been looking at Craigslist for a long time with a fixed "Marshall" search (just to torture myself at all the things I can't afford ) and they've all been going for $500-$600 (in Chicago) for a while. Then this week I saw a really clean 2004 one come up for $400. I jumped on it and it's now in my home. Then last night another one showed up for $400.

As a side note there's a guy who's been selling one with a camo grillcloth and asking $750 with no takers for the last 3 months.

I'm happy with my purchase. I was gonna do a NGD post, but it's really not that exciting. It does complete my dual stack setup though and I can run my '77 MKII as a halfstack practice amp in my bedroom too.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Nice and clean.. how do you find the G12T-75's?

 

[Shawn Lutz]

I think the JCM800 4x12 cabs are really good with Marshall amps. I have an original one for the 80's with G12T75's and feel it is a perfect match for my 2203 from the same era.

 

[Devilinside]

Scoop city in my opinion, even with a high mid marshall. I love mine though with 75/V30 mix or all V30's

 

[bubbastain]

So what is the consensus on these cabs?? I see a lot of them going for around the 400$ mark lately... that makes me wonder why.. is it the cabs themselves that feel small or thin or something else? Anyone dig their well broken in 75's? I've heard 75's mixed with g12h30's that I thought sounded pretty good..even V30's.. is it a construction thing that is impacting their sonic qualities these days? I was thinking of getting a custom 1 x 12 cab to go along with my combo but a trip through the classifieds has peaked my interest as i remember liking what I heard from Marshall cabs when i was a lot younger. Never owned one of their 4 x 12's

I think the standard Marshall cabs with the 75's are just fine. They may not have the sound or feel you specifically are looking for, but they are good cabs. As far as construction goes, I've tossed around my own and have seen others beat to hell and have never seen a broken one. Plastic handles don't bother me either. I never broke one. I did have to re-solder the connection on the stereo jack pcb on one. That's it. They are also lighter than the Mesa cabs for easier loading if your going solo. I like the ones with the V30s better.

 

[Schaf]

broken in G12T-75's are nice. i have some from 1986 and they are really warm. i tested mine against a friend's old 1971 greenback loaded cabinet and my speakers sounded similar but had a tad more bass and upper highs, which we both liked better. but i wouldn't call these speakers scooped by any means. the difference in these speakers is that when you use a head, you can turn up the presence and treble....when i tried some 70/80's or V30's i couldn't turn up the presence at all on some heads. it's all about dialing in your tone with no regard to other people's settings.

I agree with this on the 75's. Lots of people say they are scooped but I think they match up great with a bright amp like a JCM800. I don't think they are really scooped. They have a lot less mids than the V30's for sure. Does the frequency curve really scoop in the mids or just flatten out. I'd like to hear from JIm from Scumback on this issue. I have a pair in an 80's Marshall cab and I like them better than the 1265's that I have in another cab. They sound meaner to me.