Strat & Les Paul = a rock and a hard place

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What a fuckup! I meant to say "Nitrovane", not 'novocaine"......... :confused: :doh:
 
Aldrich is bright. I would go BareKnuckle "Holy Diver" - it's amazing PHAT and BEAUTIFUL ;)
 
hunter":2ybipjg4 said:
Aldrich is bright. I would go BareKnuckle "Holy Diver" - it's amazing PHAT and BEAUTIFUL ;)

You mean it's bright in a Strat?


It's perfect for me in a Les Paul-style guitar- has lots of presence & crunchy highs, but not overly bright.
 
petejt":1oeayeip said:
grooveHT":1oeayeip said:
petejt":1oeayeip said:
grooveHT":1oeayeip said:
Another question: does it have to be Aldrich pickups? Or are you just looking for it to be fatter/crunchier?

Nah, doesn't have to be an Aldrich. Fatter & crunchier (with tightness) is what I'd love in a Strat (bridge position).
Or the other way- Glassy Twang in my ESP (neck, middle, combined). Ideally this would be better as then I wouldn't have to buy a new guitar.

The Strat on its own is pretty good for high gain leads, but for (high gain) rhythm I miss the oomph and power that the Aldrich puts out from my ESP.

My suggestion, if you were to go with a strat, would be this:

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SD PATB-3
https://www.seymourduncan.com/products/e ... _parallel/

Awesome pickup, great under gain and clean, but the kicker is that its fantastic TAPPED, both alone and in combination with a middle pickup. I think it would fit the bill very well for you. Additionally, there is a diagram out there, think originally by Suhr, that uses 500k pots and resistors in such a way that in the bridge position, your guitar sees 500k, but in all others it "sees" 250k. Works great, Vlad has been posting some clips with my USACG strat using that wiring diagram.


Thanks very much for the suggestion.

What is the difference of amps and pedals "seeing" 250k, and 500k?

The difference is, most single coils are designed to work best with 250k pots, including some of the noiseless, like the Dimarzio Areas and SD Stack Pluses; the pickup EQs just sound better with 250k pots, takes some of the top end off. Humbuckers tend to sound a bit dull with 250k pots, although with some of the brighter or harsher pickups like the JB, some people like 250k pots to tame it. It's all individual preference, but, for example, with my Area 61/Area 61/36th Anniversary setup, the single coils see 250k, the humbucker sees 500k, and it sounds great!

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... ng+diagram

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^ Thanks for finding that diagram. I used all 500k pots, so the only difference to what I did on my strat is I had both tone pots 500k and didn't have R1 and C1 on the volume pot. having the first tone pot as 500k just changes where I run it. I would usually have the 1st tone pot if it was 250k all the way, since this one has a 500k, I have it at 7 or 8 (not sure the exact resistance).
 
Honestly in my opinion you can't do all things you want from just one guitar.

Some will perform better than others at the added versatility but you can't get strat sounds and Les Paul sounds in the same guitar. You can get close with something like a Suhr or Tom Anderson...
 
kasperjensen":1t76cgkn said:
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I own one of these. Although mine is dark purple, and just generally badass.

I can get pretty much any tone I want from it. Probably my favourite guitar.

which model is this?? Fender has so many stinkin' models, I can't keep track. Looks really cool.
 
petejt":1r0hg4xh said:
grooveHT":1r0hg4xh said:
Another question: does it have to be Aldrich pickups? Or are you just looking for it to be fatter/crunchier?

Nah, doesn't have to be an Aldrich. Fatter & crunchier (with tightness) is what I'd love in a Strat (bridge position).
Or the other way- Glassy Twang in my ESP (neck, middle, combined). Ideally this would be better as then I wouldn't have to buy a new guitar.

The Strat on its own is pretty good for high gain leads, but for (high gain) rhythm I miss the oomph and power that the Aldrich puts out from my ESP.

If you're looking for "oomph and power" in a strat style axe I'd probably pass on the Aldrich. I had an Aldrich set in my Suhr Modern & while it sounded good, I wouldn't say the combination had a lot of "oomph and power", especially compared it to LP style guitar with the same pickups. IMO it could've used a little more meat to the sound. If you want fat & crunchy with oomph & power I'd consider the BK Warpig w/an alnico a5 magnet.
 
IMO, the best way to get "fat" out of a strat bridge is a Duncan Custom Custom. I LOVE that pickup in strats.
 
blackba":1i2lx9fg said:
^ Thanks for finding that diagram. I used all 500k pots, so the only difference to what I did on my strat is I had both tone pots 500k and didn't have R1 and C1 on the volume pot. having the first tone pot as 500k just changes where I run it. I would usually have the 1st tone pot if it was 250k all the way, since this one has a 500k, I have it at 7 or 8 (not sure the exact resistance).


no problem! :rock:
 
troublehead":cikrk33y said:
IMO, the best way to get "fat" out of a strat bridge is a Duncan Custom Custom. I LOVE that pickup in strats.


Do you find the Duncan Custom Custom has enough bass response in a strat? The SD tone chart is B/M/T of 3/7/7.
 
I've received advice that I can't extract the coils from a humbucker (such as an Aldrich) to use as two separate single coil pickups, because they share the same magnet. Bugga..............


I guess my only option apart from buying a Strat & replacing the bridge pickup, is to get something like a Duncan P-Rails into my ESP, and wire it as H-S-H + 5-way toggle but with the coil split switch?
 
Something else you CAN do is get a Fralin Unbucker or an SD The Mag pickup. Both of these pickups were designed to be split. I can tell you from experience the Unbucker sounds awesome as a neck pickup in both modes, and would do well with a PATB-3 in the bridge. The Mag is actually two single coils put together on a humbucker frame; needless to say, it splits really well!
 
blackba":11hlnu1l said:
troublehead":11hlnu1l said:
IMO, the best way to get "fat" out of a strat bridge is a Duncan Custom Custom. I LOVE that pickup in strats.


Do you find the Duncan Custom Custom has enough bass response in a strat? The SD tone chart is B/M/T of 3/7/7.

Plenty of it IMO. That chart is pretty deceiving. The Custom Custom has really thick low mids and buttery sounding high mids/highs. I once owned 2 strats with the Custom Custom. I tried an MCP Afwayu and a host of other pups and the Duncan sounded the best.
 
The DiMarzio Breed is a bit too thick for a mahogony PRS-style guitar I have for my preference, but I'm thinking it'd balance out pretty well and may try that in a Mexican HSS strat I have.
 
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