japetus
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crwnedblasphemy":1cmu307c said:
I literally would rather would use soup cans than those Alesis monitors.
I literally would rather would use soup cans than those Alesis monitors.
romanianreaper
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sutepaj":1d0g0epv said:
LOL!!!
Exo-metal
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Crank it up to 11 
romanianreaper
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exo-metal":2z5v67om said:Crank it up to 11
Hells yeah!!!
glassjaw7
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Didn't read through all the replies but the weird frequency thing you're describing sounds like it might be a resonance thing. Have you tried putting the speakers on stands or at least isolating with some foam? Also, if there's a wall directly behind the monitors, try putting some foam or something uneven behind them to scatter the sound so you're not hearing the reflection bouncing back and mixing in with the original sound from the monitors.
FWIW I bought some JBL LSR305s last year and they are really nice for the price.
FWIW I bought some JBL LSR305s last year and they are really nice for the price.
crwnedblasphemy
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I am getting some ear fatigue with playback on both my turntables through my KRKs....kinda driving me nuts. Don't know if it's the monitors, phono stage or what....but both tables with different cartridges are doing it...which makes me think it's the phono stage or the monitors. 
chunktone
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I love the Tannoy Precision 8's.
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Kagami
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Have you tried using the high shelving switch/knob on the back?crwnedblasphemy":1kr4xecr said:I am getting some ear fatigue with playback on both my turntables through my KRKs....kinda driving me nuts. Don't know if it's the monitors, phono stage or what....but both tables with different cartridges are doing it...which makes me think it's the phono stage or the monitors.
errrrrl
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I've been hesitating upgrading my cheapy mackies with Adam T5V. If I had the space i'd opt for the T7V but I barely have space for the 5 inchers
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Thunkful
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+1 for lsr 305s, have em also and they're the best in their price range.sotosprince":2lfs4cy6 said:
PeteLaramee
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I bought a pair of used Mackie HR824s mk1 for $400 and I love them. I don't get any ear fatigue. I also have some HR624 mkIIs and don't have that problem.
crwnedblasphemy
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Kagami":1msvazry said:Have you tried using the high shelving switch/knob on the back?crwnedblasphemy":1msvazry said:I am getting some ear fatigue with playback on both my turntables through my KRKs....kinda driving me nuts. Don't know if it's the monitors, phono stage or what....but both tables with different cartridges are doing it...which makes me think it's the phono stage or the monitors.
I hit the -1db switch on back and seems to have helped, also a little EQ adjustment.
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Hamer95USA
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PeteLaramee":2vqg71m4 said:
I bought a pair of used Mackie HR824 MKI monitors from Guitar Center using the money that I got from the sale of my Ibanez 2120X guitar. The monitors have a good clear warm sound to them. Like anything else, you have to place the monitors where it sounds good in your room. There's also the issue of volume levels whether you like to listen to your source music at a loud or quiet listening level that will determine if you are going to have ear fatigue. There's also the age factor that most of us who are into the '80s or '90s hard rock/metal guitar styles are starting to get tinnitus or other hearing issues from exposure to loud volumes at jams/band rehearsals or shows/harsh frequencies/lack of protection from not using ear plugs.
That being said, I find myself listening to my monitors at an audible, yet low level of volume in my home studio. When I'm practicing my cover band songs with my guitar/pedalboard/amp along with the source music coming from the Mackie monitors cranked up, after about 2 hours, I need to take a break to give my ears a rest since I like to hear the my guitar/pedalboard/amp. If I practice without any amp using my Positive Grid Jamup Pro software with an audio interface and Sennheiser headphones, I keep the volume very low and take a break from having the headphones around my head for a period of time.
Guitar George
Monkey Man
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I've always found KRKs to be fatiguing and harsh in the high end. The cheaper the model, the worse these aspects are in my experience.
Even if it is a room resonance that's bothering you, I'd still consider going for most of the other monitors mentioned here.
Even if it is a room resonance that's bothering you, I'd still consider going for most of the other monitors mentioned here.
Speeddemon
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To some extent my experience as well. A bit scooped EQ. Especially the RP8's had this hyped bass and highs. The RP6's were at least somewhat more balanced.Monkey Man":21xy7ail said:
Never tried the JBL 305's, but I hear a lot of good things about them with regards to price/performance ratio.
By the way, next to my CMS65's, my 2nd 'grotto' pair is a pair of Fostex 6301BX's; 1-way active speakers, 10W, 4" drivers in a fully sealed aluminium enclosure. They sound bigger than you'd expect, but really more suited to check the mids & overall balance mostly, as one would do with NS-10's or Auratones.
Monkey Man
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Agreed on the KRKs, mate.
I too have heard pretty much nothing but good things about the "budget" JBLs in terms of P
ratio. Probably a tad smoother than the Yammy HS's.
Given your sensitivity to high-end integrity, I reckon you'd love my Opals. I just didn't mention them in response to the OP 'cause they're not within most folks' budgets even 'though bang-for-buck wise, they're killer.
I saved for 7 years for these suckers, and they're worth every damned penny... and the wait..gif "guitar :m17:")
I too have heard pretty much nothing but good things about the "budget" JBLs in terms of P
ratio. Probably a tad smoother than the Yammy HS's.Given your sensitivity to high-end integrity, I reckon you'd love my Opals. I just didn't mention them in response to the OP 'cause they're not within most folks' budgets even 'though bang-for-buck wise, they're killer.
I saved for 7 years for these suckers, and they're worth every damned penny... and the wait.
Speeddemon
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Interesting you mention the Opals.
I'm keen to hear your thoughts on Dynaudio, Tannoy, old Mackie HR's, Meyer HD1's as well.
By the way, aside from excellent transient response, I don't care for the Yamaha HS-series. Way too mid-forward for me. Quite aggressive. And this is coming from someone who digs Focals. Both for studio and hi-fi.
In my living room I have a set of 816W's, which I've chosen after extensive A/B/C-ing with Monitor Audio, Dali, B&W, KEF and some others.
I'm keen to hear your thoughts on Dynaudio, Tannoy, old Mackie HR's, Meyer HD1's as well.
By the way, aside from excellent transient response, I don't care for the Yamaha HS-series. Way too mid-forward for me. Quite aggressive. And this is coming from someone who digs Focals. Both for studio and hi-fi.
In my living room I have a set of 816W's, which I've chosen after extensive A/B/C-ing with Monitor Audio, Dali, B&W, KEF and some others.
skullfxr
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I like my KRK 6"ers. However when I mix, I use three different pairs of speakers. I use the KRK first, move onto Bose (yes $8 at good will) then to book shelf speakers, then back to the KRK. I personally don't like Bose, but I find them useful for another reference. Ultimately the KRK is what does the mix for me. I value hearing different examples because you can anticipate how the mix would sound on something else. IMHO, YMMV, ETC.
Monkey Man
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Respect the BM1A (I think that's what they were called - the super-popular model from back in the day) for its warmth and punch. Definitely no harshness there.Speeddemon":2ganpkpj said:
Only ever used the Tannoy Little Reds way back when, but they were great and I immediately respected the brand due to this.
The old Mackies were excellent, but I had a tiny issue with the high end. To my ears, it was a wee-bit hard. Not harsh, just "hard", and I put this down to the tweeter material and design.
Meyer is something I've never had the honour of hearing; they're way beyond my pay grade.
I hear you. I recommended the OP look at them 'cause of the price : performance ratio.Speeddemon":2ganpkpj said:
They're still excellent for what they are IMHO; that forwardness is something one could expect given the NS10 heritage.
Nice. At a glance I wouldn't use something like that for near field monitoring simply because of the drivers' physical separation from one another; there'd be phase issues at the monitoring position if it were a metre or two from the units.Speeddemon":2ganpkpj said:
In your living-room situation 'though, it's a different story. When I bought the Opals I moved my old Alesis Pro Linear 720 DSPs to the living room, and they do the job, especially when you're used to shitty stereo systems and TV speakers, as I am.
Definitely the way to go, mate; there shouldn't be any mileage variation there.swamptrashstompboxes":2ganpkpj said:
Unfortunately I've only ever been able to run one pair at a time due to space limitations. Thankfully these days we can use emulators such as Audified's MixChecker Pro for multi-system comparisons, and then there's the likes of Waves' near-field monitor and mix-room virtualisations (generic studio & Abbey Road versions).