Swimming rattlesnakes?

[JackBootedThug]

It most likely was lol



I definitely wouldn’t move one myself. We have a guy locally that gets called to move them when they end up under someone’s house or in their basement. I’ve came across one curled up behind someone’s furnace before, that was not fun. They are easy enough to avoid in the woods, but I’d rather not be in close corners with one.
That furnace did not get repaired that day…

They up there in masshole land? I didn’t think they were that far north.

 

[JackBootedThug]

Yeah, it's members of the Crotalus genus that are mostly neurotoxic; that was what I had on the brain whne I posted. However, there was a study a while ago that showed most all rattlesnakes have some level of neurotoxic venom mixed in with the hemotoxic. A further study suggested that while the hemotoxic venom makes up the majority of the mix the proportion of neurotoxic venom has been increasing over the years. Some scientists attributed it to changing environment or food sources while others say it's due to interbreeding of species.

There’s always been a debate here in wv over water moccasins. Some people say they are here and others disagree. I have never seen one personally.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

There’s always been a debate here in wv over water moccasins. Some people say they are here and others disagree. I have never seen one personally.

I wouldn't discredit a couple of individuals that make it that far, but nothing that would constitute calling it a population.

 

[Floyd Eye]

There’s always been a debate here in wv over water moccasins. Some people say they are here and others disagree. I have never seen one personally.

Copperhead will swim. So will a lot of snakes.

Nationwide 40% of snakes identified as copperheads are actually cottonmouths ( water moccasins).

 

[Dan Gleesak]

They up there in masshole land? I didn’t think they were that far north.

There are isolated pockets of them in the state, I happen to live in one of the pockets in the Berkshires.

 

[JackBootedThug]

There are isolated pockets of them in the state, I happen to live in one of the pockets in the Berkshires.

I lived in nh for two years and never seen a single snake. They had some big deer and some retarded looking horses.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

I lived in nh for two years and never seen a single snake. They had some big deer and some retarded looking horses.

We get a lot of fun stuff in my neck of the woods. Bald eagles and bobcats, black bears and blue birds.

Rattlers and brown recluse are the only things trying to kill is though. And giant hogweed.
There is no known population on my area, but myself and others have definitely seen mountain lions around

 

[JackBootedThug]

I’m pretty excited. Elk have been reintroduced in the southern part of the state. People have seen mountain lions and an occasional black panther. Hell one was killed a year or two ago and it had a tracker on it but the fish cops covered it up. Ohhh it’s not real…they said. Everyone laughed at them. One thing about Facebook is people fucking post everything on there.

 

[JTyson]

There’s always been a debate here in wv over water moccasins. Some people say they are here and others disagree. I have never seen one personally.

We have lots of Mocs here, we were clearing some land that runs along a creek and I had to keep an 870 pump at arms length the whole time. Some beavers had dammed up the creek and made it overflow it’s banks and flooded nearly ten acres of our land. The Mocs were everywhere. We thinned them out with shotguns, busted all the dams and got things back to normal but it took more than 2 years to do it. We have a spot on a tree we would hang them from and the hawks and owls would come get them at night.
They are still out there but it’s a normal amount of them now.
We stopped counting after it slowed down to normal but we hit 130 before that.
I had a thread in OT about the first time I went out there, it was like a bad movie.
??

 

[Floyd Eye]

We get a lot of fun stuff in my neck of the woods. Bald eagles and bobcats, black bears and blue birds.

Rattlers and brown recluse are the only things trying to kill is though. And giant hogweed.
There is no known population on my area, but myself and others have definitely seen mountain lions around

Brown recluse ain’t gonna kill you. Every spider my wife sees she swears is a brown recluse. No doubt we have shit tons of them but they are easily the most misidentified spider in the world. And their bite does nothing to me.

Now red wasps on the other hand……. I got zapped in the eye Sunday while rebuilding my yard hydrant. Benadryl or Epipen will keep me out of shock but it don’t stop the anaphylaxis. I was still weird yesterday.

 

[JackBootedThug]

Nothing meaner or more aggressive than a water snake around here. I have killed some big ones too. Nerodia seipedon I believe. Madasahatter can correct me on that one. My b.s. in biology was a long time ago….

 

[Floyd Eye]

I’m pretty excited. Elk have been reintroduced in the southern part of the state. People have seen mountain lions and an occasional black panther. Hell one was killed a year or two ago and it had a tracker on it but the fish cops covered it up. Ohhh it’s not real…they said. Everyone laughed at them. One thing about Facebook is people fucking post everything on there.

Are you in Missouri ? We recently reintroduced Elk into the southern part of the state. And regardless of what they say, we’ve had panthers down there my whole life. We got black bears in bigger numbers too. In suburban St. Louis even.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Brown recluse ain’t gonna kill you. Every spider my wife sees she swears is a brown recluse. No doubt we have shit tons of them but they are easily the most misidentified spider in the world. And their bite does nothing to me.

Now red wasps on the other hand……. I got zapped in the eye Sunday while rebuilding my yard hydrant. Benadryl or Epipen will keep me out of shock but it don’t stop the anaphylaxis. I was still weird yesterday.

Tell that to my wife. She was hospitalized for almost a week after a bite.

 

[JackBootedThug]

Are you in Missouri ? We recently reintroduced Elk into the southern part of the state. And regardless of what they say, we’ve had panthers down there my whole life. We got black bears in bigger numbers too. In suburban St. Louis even.

West by God Virginia.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Tell that to my wife. She was hospitalized for almost a week after a bite.

That sucks. It’s rare though. My wife got bit on the face. It was a sore and it took a month for it to go away and it was painful but she was never hospitalized. I get bit and it’s no different than any other bug bite.

Sorry about your wife. I assume you took steps to eradicate and keep them out ?

 

[Floyd Eye]

West by God Virginia.

Hatfields and McCoys eh. Solid red and beautiful state brother.

 

[JackBootedThug]

Tell that to my wife. She was hospitalized for almost a week after a bite.

I have seen people die from brown recluse and copper heads. The dummy that the copper head killed never got help and infection got him. I think he was a breed though. Buddies uncle got bit by a recluse and they just kept amputating until it was done.

 

[JackBootedThug]

Hatfields and McCoys eh. Solid red and beautiful state brother.

It was blue for decades. People woke up after the unions and democrats destroyed coal. Now…we are on the decline and I see no way out.

 

[rsm]

we have Eastern diamondbacks and timber rattlers here, mostly in the dunes, and tidal pools. along with cottonmouth, copperheads, eastern coral snakes; and many non-venomous.

Then black widows, brown recluse, spiders. gators, sharks, stingrays, jellyfish including Portuguese man-o-war late spring early summer.

I've seen a few black racers (snakes), black widows and coyotes at my house.

 

[84superchamp]

They up there in masshole land? I didn’t think they were that far north.

I’ve wondered about that; as the winters get warmer in northern Indiana, will those poisonous snakes from Kentucky start to migrate north? Copperheads and moccasins were everywhere in Kentucky during my childhood there but rarely, if ever seen here. Rattlesnakes too.