That's it. Peters amps are THE best amps on the planet

[FourT6and2]

I see another Peters in my future. I already have two. But man... James knows what he's doing.

 

[steve_k]

Leave James alone. He's busy working on my amp.....

 

[Crunchtime]

Meh what?

"Meh is an interjection used as an expression of indifference or boredom. It is often regarded as a verbal shrug of the shoulders. The use of the term shows that the speaker is apathetic, uninterested, or indifferent to the question or subject at hand. It is occasionally used as an adjective, meaning something is mediocre or unremarkable."

To suggest Peters amps are mediocre makes me doubt you ever owned one.

 

[FourT6and2]

meh

I know opinions and taste can change, but lol viewtopic.php?f=3&t=95912&p=1132249#p1132249

 

[hstlaurent]

meh

I know opinions and taste can change, but lol viewtopic.php?f=3&t=95912&p=1132249#p1132249

 

[TrueTone500]

Meh what?

"Meh is an interjection used as an expression of indifference or boredom. It is often regarded as a verbal shrug of the shoulders. The use of the term shows that the speaker is apathetic, uninterested, or indifferent to the question or subject at hand. It is occasionally used as an adjective, meaning something is mediocre or unremarkable."

Be careful! They get upset when you don't agree with them... Nothing worse being shunned by Rig Talk's stone washed jeans clique.

 

[old_metal_head]

 

[rottingcorpse]

I know opinions and taste can change

My taste has not changed.

I totally get it. I used to love ENGL tone, but found others I loved way more as I kept trying different amps. Peters amps are not for everyone, no single amp is. Personally, I never really liked the few mark series mesa heads I have had, and flat out hated the diamond Nitrox and krankenstein.

My question would be, if the OP had titled the thread "my peters amp is the best amp in the world for me!", would you still have come in with "meh"? You seemed to have liked the one you had when you first got it, per your thread about the hydra/halo.

 

[tfridgen]

Yes, i Went to school and learned this particular word but, in what context is it used here? The amp itself, the sounds it generates, the man himself. Or just a lack of interest without any basis. So if the later is the case, why post in this thread? To me uninterested means exactly that. But still you wanted us to know your lack of interest. Now we know. Thank you.

I've owned a Hydra/Halo.
NOT "...THE best amps on the planet".

So you've owned two Peters amps? The single channel 50W Hydra AND a Hydra/Halo Dual Channel? Why did you buy another one if you didn't like the Hydra the first time ?

 

[hstlaurent]

I know opinions and taste can change

My taste has not changed.

What is it that you didn't like about them? Or like better in other amps? I don't own one, so I quite curious.

Thanks

 

[spguitar]

HhuHuHuHuh you said Peters.

 

[7 Stringer]

Ha ha ha.



Funny Guy.

 

[the4thlast1]

I've owned 3 different Peters amps over the years...Infact I think I sold the first one I had to you 7stringer, it was a professional series Chimera/Halo.
.....
I think James makes some nice amps..."Best on the Planet" I wouldn't say that about any amp but that's just me..Personally there were things about the Peters amps I liked and other things I didn't. I wanted to love them but It didn't happen...James will normally blame it on the guitar being a dud if you don't dig his amps but being lucky enough to own several guitars that sound awesome (had to weed through many ) I know it just comes down to preference. Some will love Peters amps , others won't its that simple.

 

[7 Stringer]

I've owned 3 different Peters amps over the years...Infact I think I sold the first one I had to you 7stringer, it was a professional series Chimera/Halo.
.....
I think James makes some nice amps..."Best on the Planet" I wouldn't say that about any amp but that's just me..Personally there were things about the Peters amps I liked and other things I didn't. I wanted to love them but It didn't happen...James will normally blame it on the guitar being a dud if you don't dig his amps but being lucky enough to own several guitars that sound awesome (had to weed through many ) I know it just comes down to preference. Some will love Peters amps , others won't its that simple.

Yep I remember that amp, I didn't quite bond with it. Talked to James about it and I sent it in to have it it modded into a gryphon. Turned out he had a guy with a gryphon that wanted a chimera, so we traded. He did all this without charging a dime, vey cool of him. Turned out that the gryphon became my favorite amp of all time. Played that thing to death. Then I sold it to fund my triple.

Now I'm saving to get that gryphon back, with an added bonus channel.

Chris

 

[the4thlast1]

Yeah that's interesting Its possible I would like the Gryphon best out of the channel designs....I have owned two different Chimeras and a Hydra. How different is the Hydra from the Gryphon in your experience ?

 

[7 Stringer]

Yeah that's interesting Its possible I would like the Gryphon best out of the channel designs....I have owned two different Chimeras and a Hydra. How different is the Hydra from the Gryphon in your experience ?

I couldn't tell you about the Hydra as I never tried one. But by what I heard, it's has more bloom or is bigger sounding than the other channels. Maybe has more of a Mesa-ish tone to it, I don't wanna comment to much as I'm talkin' out of my ass on this one. Lol

But the Gryphon is one mean and growly sounding amp. Has a vintagy Marshally crunch but with a Peters twist. Very unique mid growl for sure. I love that channel.

I think James would be better at describing the differences than me.

 

[JamesPeters]

...James will normally blame it on the guitar being a dud if you don't dig his amps but being lucky enough to own several guitars that sound awesome (had to weed through many ) I know it just comes down to preference. Some will love Peters amps , others won't its that simple.

The second half of what you said, I can't deny. It makes perfect sense.

The first part however, you might have painted me a bit wrong.

When you bought the Chimera amp from me, we'd discussed what you wanted in your sound. You said you weren't trying to get something as tight as the Cobra, you wanted something warmer and less "beamy" (my choice of words at the moment, paraphrasing from memory). The Chimera seemed to fit the bill, based on our conversations. (I don't claim to make the "tightest" sounding amps, and explain to people in detail how they differ from other modern high gain amps, as much as I can.) When you got the amp and had trouble getting the sound you were after (tighter than you were getting from it), we had more conversations, and when I mentioned the possibility of your guitar being a factor, you tended to shut the conversation down. I couldn't get specifics from you about how the guitar compared to others, if it could be adjusted in some way for a different sound etc.

The discussion we had about your guitar (the one in particular we discussed at the time, years ago) wasn't meant to be my saying "your guitar is a dud". If the Cobra was the only amp you found tight enough for you (at the time anyway), and you'd been through lots of amps, it stands to reason your guitar (or something about its setup, including but not limited to the pickups being too close to the strings) or possibly your hand position while muting is contributing something that you don't appreciate, making the sound less "tight". Whenever that guitar was brought up, you dismissed what I was saying since you'd paid a significant sum of money for the guitar. You even posted a picture once. Unfortunately the price you pay for a guitar, and how beautiful it looks/how well it was made, doesn't say anything about how the wood resonates. And even if in my opinion (if I had the chance to try the guitar) I felt the guitar had "too much lows" or "loose lows" for the sort of sound I want, it doesn't make the guitar "a dud". Sometimes lowering the pickup on the bass side by 1/16" is enough to tighten things up (never mind changing pickups or doing a setup). And even if I couldn't get the guitar to sound the way I want, I wouldn't just dismiss it as "a dud" since it's likely someone else would love it. I try not to use the word "dud" or similar things, and if I did at some point, I was oversimplifying and I wish I hadn't!

I wasn't trying to say your guitar was garbage. The basis of my argument was to see if there could be something done with your guitar to make it work for the sound you want. Failing that, consider another guitar. I can play a dozen Les Pauls which look identical, made in the same batch, and only one or two will really sound right to me. The same can apply for other guitars.

All this being said--there's still a possibility you'd never like the Chimera. You're not the only one to struggle to get the "tight" response you want from it; it's very responsive and dynamic, capable of sounding warmer and/or more vintage, or tighter and more aggressive, based on changing your playing style (which also means it can be hard for some people to control). What made me insist on discussing the guitar aspect was that we never got anywhere when I brought it up. If I can make the Chimera sound razor tight with my guitars, I'm left thinking "maybe it's the guitar?" at least until we discuss it in more depth. If you shut the conversation down, I'm left without options. I could modify the amp to sound "tighter" but then it loses what it's supposed to be, what you were buying it for in the first place (or that's what I thought, anyway). It put me between a rock and a hard place.

Please understand I wasn't trying to insult your guitar or your experience/knowledge. If I came across that way, I'm sorry!

I'm guessing you didn't like the Hydra either, based on what you thought of the Chimera and since the Hydra is generally fatter with more "bloom" to the attack (and arguably "less tight" unless you're careful with settings, playing style, etc.) The Hydra isn't usually a design I recommend to people wanting a tight sound. The FSM (on the "modern" side of things), and to a lesser extent the GNL and Gryphon (on the more "vintage" side of things), are designs I might recommend for that. It's possible you'd appreciate the Chimera now that there's been a change to the amp format which helps keep "loose lows" from the guitar in check (irrespective of the channel designs used in the amp), but the FSM was designed more specifically to sound tighter than the Chimera. It's meant to be a design which people can find more "comfortable" for a transition from other modern high gain amps, than going straight for the Chimera. There's more compression on the attack, just enough to work better with lower tunings or deeper sounding guitars. It's still a Peters, but it's about as far as I go toward the more compressed modern high gain sound.

If the FSM had existed in 2008, I'd probably have recommended it over all else just to be safe. It wasn't made until a few years later though.

 

[primerib]

meh

I know opinions and taste can change, but lol viewtopic.php?f=3&t=95912&p=1132249#p1132249

Dammit, old_metal_head went back and covered his tracks. meh

 

[ejecta]

meh

I know opinions and taste can change, but lol viewtopic.php?f=3&t=95912&p=1132249#p1132249

Dammit, old_metal_head went back and covered his tracks. meh

Yes he did. I read it before he posted it and was praising it up...... now changed it. What a pussy.

 

[the4thlast1]

I tell ya what James why don't you send me a FSM to demo, If I don't like it I won't tell anyone.