NoHassle
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It was a 'rhetorical' statement.Because i can?
It was a 'rhetorical' statement.Because i can?
That's about 1/4 true and about half propaganda. And Ukraine has a much longer association with Russia than the 1600s. Russia began in Kiev. And for almost the entirety of Ukraine's existence they have been "Russian". Russia "benevolently" gave them their freedom for pretty much the same reason they gave Poland and Czechoslovakia their freedom. Because they really didn't have a choice. Then they recognized their sovereignty, including allowing them to keep Crimea, for over two decades until 2014.You might want to read this as this is the unedited version. The net generally provides a version that bends the true narrative.
https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 1819/volume-1819-I-31139-English.pdf
Just to assist you, check chapter 10 and realise that Ukraine did not honor any of the signed and legal commitment to the Commonwealth.
A history lesson for you...Ukraine 'first' ASKED to join Russia back in the 1600s because they couldn't protect themselves against the Ottomans and with Russia they were safe. The full implementation of all of Ukraine under Russian protection and control took over a hundred years but again, on Ukraine's insistence for full protection.
With the dissolution of the USSR in the 90s Russia, as a gesture (aka: gift), let Ukraine be independent but under certain conditions that protected the 'entire' Commonwealth. Make no mistake, Russia was not forced to let Ukraine once again exist. It was an act of goodwill on Russia's part.
Enter the 2000s and Ukraine certainly did not correct their behaviour at all and were repeatedly warned by the entire Commonwealth. Germany and a few others get involved and 100% lied to Russia and the Commonwealth (they have admitted this publicly) and then WE get involved and topple their government and install Zelensky who is stealing billions in US currency.
Crimea and others held their OWN public referendums and they chose to legally reconstitute with Russia and divorce Ukraine. Russia and Putin had no role in this and they are currently fighting on behalf of these regions to stay with Russia.
The above can all be found if you dig and if you choose not to and remain a duped sheep...good for you.
Tit for tat, how mature lolIt was a 'rhetorical' statement.
So, even with factual evidence of the very legal document signed by the entire Commonwealth and legally witnessed by other countries you still believe Russia has no legal standing with their current actions.That's about 1/4 true and about half propaganda. And Ukraine has a much longer association with Russia than the 1600s. Russia began in Kiev. And for almost the entirety of Ukraine's existence they have been "Russian". Russia "benevolently" gave them their freedom for pretty much the same reason they gave Poland and Czechoslovakia their freedom. Because they really didn't have a choice. Then they recognized their sovereignty, including allowing them to keep Crimea, for over two decades until 2014.
I have some sympathy for Russia since the current war could almost certainly have been avoided if the west and the dumb mother fucker who occupied the white house for the previous 4 years had not begun entertaining the corrupt midget in Ukraine's ridiculous assertion that Ukraine could join NATO, which is fucking ludicrous. Nevertheless Russia, or rather Putin, exploited the opportunity to take huge chunks of industrial and agricultural land in Ukraine when they should have just done what they usually do. Assassinate the little queer Zelensky, deny it and install one of the Pro Russian faction in his place. The invasion has no legal standing and the response of Europe and the rest of the world has not been a good thing for Russia. Even their own people oppose it.
That’s a riot. I don’t know who convinced you to trust Russian propaganda but you might actually educate yourself with regards to the Minsky Accords and why they failed. I actually wish you wouldn’t converse with me because you’re a fucking idiot.So, even with factual evidence of the very legal document signed by the entire Commonwealth and legally witnessed by other countries you still believe Russia has no legal standing with their current actions.
You also state certain things, especially about Putin, with absolutely no supporting evidence whatsoever. Hearsay is bullshit as any reasonable person knows.
Your upbringing teachings and emotions have taken you into the land of fantasy which as usual paints Russia, and particularly Putin, in a bad light whilst Ukraine is innocent to you and above the law that they themselves signed on to.
At this stage I can't take you serious, and who else could.
I want to converse with people who are reasonable because if you can't reason with someone what's the point at all.
I suggest you, and others here, actually read the document in full because if you have your comprehension needs an urgent revisit.
Admitting you're wrong isn't a crime but an action of growth.
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Such a pure inbred redneck and you're acting exactly how the Democrats act that you complain about.That’s a riot. I don’t know who convinced you to trust Russian propaganda but you might actually educate yourself with regards to the Minsky Accords and why they failed. I actually wish you wouldn’t converse with me because you’re a fucking idiot.
https://www.beyondintractability.org/casestudy/grover-minsk-II-accords
Such a pure inbred redneck and you're acting exactly how the Democrats act that you complain about.
I know you're backward but I urge you to learn how to read legal documents.
No wonder the majority of the world hates us with attitudes such as yours.
There's only fucking lying idiot here and the evidence nails you solidly to the wall with being that useless fucking no hoper idiot.
I agree, put me on ignore as I'm going to now put you on ignore.
Adios fuckwit.
Couldn't agree more and it should immediately start with brainwashed ignorant hypocrite inbred rednecks, and any others who think the same, who still deny reality backed by hard legal evidence.We as a society might want to work on human intelligence before starting to lean heavily on artificial intelligence.
You're such an ignorant inbred redneck as clothes (car in this instance) don't maketh the man.Hard legal evidence.
I cried so hard when he called me a redneck I almost wrecked my Mercedes. What a stupid piece of shit this guy is.
So like I said, just like the sheep fucker. Claim to have me on ignore that way you don’t have to respond when you have no argument. Like how about this. How the fuck are you gonna claim Russia invading Ukraine was legal, using the Minsk Accords as “ Hard evidence”, when the Minsk accords began AFTER Russia invaded ? You stupid mother fucker.You're such an ignorant inbred redneck as clothes (car in this instance) don't maketh the man.
It's your attitude, how you comprehend, how you act and how you value that makes a man, not your stupid fucking car you imbecile.
You're now starting to look like the dumbest cunt on here at this rate. Keep it going as my balls a jiggling with so much laughter you redneck.
You do know you look like the lying fool you are.And a sure sign a mother fucker has no game is when he starts throwing attacks that there’s no fucking way he could possibly know anything about. Like “ inbred redneck”. Seems to me you’re just grasping at straws like the goat fucker. As if being a redneck is some sort of put down anyway.
You’re just pissed because someone who actually understands the issues called you out on your Breitbart bullshit. I could explain to you why specifically I understand Russia and Russian history, but frankly I don’t give a fuck. Your opinion don’t mean jack shit. The stupid bullshit you posted as “ Hard legal evidence” is so fucking stupid you’d literally have to be retarded to post it.
I thought you WERE ignoring me homo?I thought you were ignoring me ?
Is there a specific reason you like fat bitches ?
See, now there’s a rip based in reality.
Get some game homo.
Enough not to crush my nose.How much does your wife weigh ?