Tips or settings for Triaxis?

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Hi guys, I have a Triaxis I´m growing tired of and I thought I´d check in to see if anyone can help me out. The Lead 2 yellow is the best-sounding gain channel in there, but it´s gotten old quick. The Dynamic voice control seems to be the ticket, obviously just like the graphic on other Boogies I´ve used and loved in the past, but it´s like it´s either too dull or too scooped and I can´t find the middle ground where it isn´t either muffled or a hot mess. I´ve tried tweaking from the old Petrucci presets too, but I´m not getting there. Maybe it´s just not a good match for my ears and/or my other gear, who knows, but the clean channels are awesome and I´d like to give the distorted tones another shot before I pass it on. Anyone?
 
When I had one, I found that having a power amp with a presence control made all the difference in the world. I believe I kept the dynamic voice around 7.0.
 
I have one and they certainly are tricky to get right. First, what power amp do you have, as SFW said, they do surprisingly play a big role in the sound. For my settings, I started with Petrucci's and tweaked from there. Actually, his tour rig from 2015 or 2014, he used the Triaxis again. You can get a screen capture of his rhythm tone (which is lead 2 red) and use the eq's as a baseline also, as they are different than the 1993 settings online. As you have probably learned, Ld2 is where it is at, and the eq changes to that mode, don't really make much difference across the yellow,green, and red settings. It's more about the squishiness or edge that those three 'color's changes to my ears.

I prefer green over yellow, but they are pretty interchangeable really. John's most recent settings are: 8.0 6.0 4.5 3.0 0.0 6.5 5.0 3.5 3.5. LD2, Red. This is his rhythm sound and it is tight and focused. When played loud, with my mesa 50/50, it is his rhythm tone. I used that as a basis to revamp my lead tone, by changing it to LD2 Green or Yellow and up the Drive setting to 8.0 and the DV at 3.0. The key is to not have the dynamic voice too high, or it injects gain into the signal. Also, everything along the way seems to add bass or woofiness, so you have to keep that dialed back (anything more than 4.0 in my experience is a mushy bass mess). Some settings that I've found online had the DV higher, with the bass at 0.0, that still had a huge amount of low end. Also, I run the outputs (rotary knobs) at 1:00 o'clock and I only use the loop for a rack compressor like John did on the I&W tour for the clean sounds.

As a last note, I have had my rig since 1999. I left it at a friends house for a few years while he remodeled. When I got it back, even though it was racked and the rack covers were on, it was covered in dry wall dust. The sound was different, lifeless, woofy. I was pretty pissed to be honest, that he didn't cover it at least. I changed the preamp tubes and the power amp tubes, but it still sounded different. As a last resort, I pulled up all of the manuals again, (triaxis, and 50/50) and went through and reset all of my settings (which is why I found John's new settings). What I discovered is, that my power amp has preamp tubes inside it. I changed those out and holy shit, that opened it right up. The presence was back, the definition, the tone. So, if you haven't changed tubes in a while, you might also want to consider that as well.
 
Although both of mine are modded for gain, I do not use the dynamic voicing. I bypass and use an external GEQ. Also, I find they can be picky with what tubes you use, so don’t be afraid to try out different tubes.

What version do you have?
 
I ran it on 5. The DV is the only drawback of the TA.
 
I went home and wrote down my settings.

These two are my lead tones, the yellow is at parity with my rhythm so I don't jump out of the mix, the green is my volume boost (done through my effects rack) for solos.
LD2 Yellow 8.0 5.5 5.5 3.0 0.0 7.5 5.5 3.5 3.5
LD2 Green 8.0 5.0 5.0 4.5 0.0 8.0 5.5 3.5 3.5

This is my rhythm tone
LD2 Red 8.0 6.0 4.5 3.0 0.0 6.5 5.0 3.5 4.5
 
I had one with the 2:90 and Strategy 500. Just couldn't gel with it no matter what i did. :(
 
Thanks for all the tips, guys!

I use it through the power section of a Randall Lynchbox with the modded presence and focus circuit, so it´s definitely a good amp where other preamps work very well. I have done some tube swapping, and while there is a difference it isn´t big enough to get to the root of the problem. It´s either the settings or the design I´m not feeling in this context, so to speak.

Mine is the original version, with the british channel instead of the recto. So the bass and mid controls have a slightly different taper than the vast majority of units, and I´m not sure how much difference it makes on the overall tone.

I´ll mess with it some more, try those settings and dial it from there. I do have a few parametric EQ units I could try sticking after it instead of using the Dynamic voicing, it really feels like that is the weak spot and the pre channel section itself is perfectly fine. Need to do some research on the Q width of the bands on the Boogie EQ, I suppose, but that´s something the internet simply must have done already :)

Thanks again!
 
Just get a good tube power amp. Engl and Fryette power amps are incredible.
 
The Lynchbox power section actually sounds very good once you have the Foglifter circuit or similar in there, but thanks for the recommendation and I can concede that it might be a bad match for the Triaxis. Only for the Triaxis so far, though, which says something. I´ll bring my Custom Audio head over from the other rig and see if that might work better.
 
Dave L":2dhnxqnt said:
The Lynchbox power section actually sounds very good once you have the Foglifter circuit or similar in there, but thanks for the recommendation and I can concede that it might be a bad match for the Triaxis. Only for the Triaxis so far, though, which says something. I´ll bring my Custom Audio head over from the other rig and see if that might work better.

I have run mine through my heads before and it is different (as you would expect). It's designed to be run with the 2:90, but I think any power amp with 6l6's should be sufficient to get a close proximity.

Also, you could try a boost to tighten it up a bit, if you find it too mushy.
 
You always hear that it was made to run with the 2:90, which in itself is a bit odd since no other preamp comes with a caveat like that, but I have to admit that there might be something to it. A Marshall-style EL34 amp can´t be right for it, that´s for sure.

Anyhoo, even if I can´t get something out of the lead channels I have to remember I bought it for the cleans to complement the main stuff. Nothing works in every situation all the time.

As for the boost, it isn't mush - it´s the tone of the thing. Either muffled and woolly or sort of excited and unpleasant.
 
Dave L":vmpl1stf said:
You always hear that it was made to run with the 2:90, which in itself is a bit odd since no other preamp comes with a caveat like that, but I have to admit that there might be something to it. A Marshall-style EL34 amp can´t be right for it, that´s for sure.

Anyhoo, even if I can´t get something out of the lead channels I have to remember I bought it for the cleans to complement the main stuff. Nothing works in every situation all the time.

As for the boost, it isn't mush - it´s the tone of the thing. Either muffled and woolly or sort of excited and unpleasant.

I don't know. I don't know a lot about the Triaxis, but I've played one a few times before. Once through a Fender tube amp as a power section. I've spent some time with the Mesa Recording Preamp too, and that's not quite as good as the Triaxis, but still great. I think a Marshall power amp would sound very good with the Triaxis. I don't see why not.
 
Yeah, I was sort of goofing off a bit there. But it certainly sounds a lot worse than anything else I´ve been running through the power section, so the guys loving it are either doing something very different or I´m just not feeling it.
 

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