TMS.. Yngwie

[Shawn Lutz]

I love Yngwie myself. For me there were 4 dudes that changed the world of guitar playing, Hendrix, Van Halen, Randy Rhoads and Yngwie Malmsteen -- after those 4 no one else matters in terms of influencing guitar players. Again that is for me, not need for uli guys or insert xxxx fanboi players to say I'm full of shit lol...you'll probably have 4 different guys

 

[ejecta]

EVERY guitarist is ripping scales someone made up years ago.

To rip on Yngwie shows the depth of your intelligence. BS comes from the shallow pool.

He is a legend.

BULL SHIT!

YJM is old news. He's nothing more than a backyard high school party player.

You want to hear "Class A" tone and brilliant guitar playing without all the BS repetition listen to this. Never mind the bad audio quality, just (if you can) focus on the brilliance of the great guitar player that he is.

Watch as Robin walks you through the secrets of magnificent technique and absolute beautiful tone. Take particular note at 15:20.

YJM is nothing more than a guitar hamster on a perpetual wheel.

Welcome the master of sheer tonal quality . . . & technique that YJM will never be able to comprehend.

Enjoy!

YJM can play the blues quite well, he cuts it really strict and plays a ferocious blues. I was actually quite surprised to see footage of him one time playing the blues and he was just killing it. Trower is a great player, but I would rather hear Yngwie do the blues, but hey, that's just me.

Yngwie plays the blues about as good as Steve Vai He uses a few blues scales and repeats over and over. Trower is a true improviser, a seasoned blues/ rock player. Who you like better doesn't matter but when I see people say Yngwie can play blues it's an insult to the genre IMO

No shit!!!

 

[mentoneman]

this was the yngwie i became a fan of.

he had it up to trilogy then poof- the car accident really changed his playing.
admirable he came back as far as he did but young yngwie was a different caliber of player.

i cannot watch that japanese orchestra deal--so sloppy i just cringe imagining what the conductor and violinists are thinking when he stuffs moment after moment with noisy arrogance.

 

[JerEvil]

Once again he proves that he is the Man !! There are critiques, haters, etc...
I think the guy is just amazing after all these years and never ceases to amaze me.

im with you.longtime Yngwie fan.tho,i dont like the "commercial" albums he's made.fantastic player and innovator.he created a style,and gets bashed for staying within what he created.sooo dumb.

i love neo-classical shred.
and the dudes who have ripped him off too.

Katsu Ohta(ARK STORM)
Joe Stump
Dean Cascione

to name a few.

when i hear Yngwie,i get what i expect.
when i listen to AC/DC, i get what i expect.

if Yngwie ever starts writing like Katy Perry,thats when id start bashing him.

You have perfectly articulated how I feel about YJM!!!

I literally use the same AC/DC comparison. I am GLAD YJM puts the same album out over and over again because he does it better than anyone else IMHO. THere is a flare and swagger to his shred unmatched by the thousands of other technically proficient players he has influenced. I would venture to say he influenced every sweep playing, classically influenced shredder (djent guys included) that picked up a guitar after 1988. Yes others did it first, but he is:
1) Still alive and inspiring
2) Did it with greater proficiency

RR was certainly an innovator and was the Hendrix of my time, but YJM took that foundation and went in an entirely different direction. When has there since been a generation of new guitar players inspired to beat ONE SINGLE GUY??? Look at the Gilberts, Beckers, Friedmans, Moores, etc. They all took what YJM was doing and tried to do it better. While amazing players all in their own right, none did what Yngwie did EXCEPT maybe Paul Gilbert. He is one of the only other guys of that ilk that just has "it" when he plays. You feel the fun/agression/love in what he does. The other guys are just mechanical.

 

[skoora]

this was the yngwie i became a fan of.

he had it up to trilogy then poof- the car accident really changed his playing.
admirable he came back as far as he did but young yngwie was a different caliber of player.

i cannot watch that japanese orchestra deal--so sloppy i just cringe imagining what the conductor and violinists are thinking when he stuffs moment after moment with noisy arrogance.

BIg +1. His tone, clarity and dynamics were off the charts back then and now it's just constant random speed with too much gain. I was literally shocked when he slowed down and played clean on TMS as I haven't heard him do anything else but overly saturated speed for years. Even my wife perked up at that point and as a layperson, music lover found something she enjoyed hearing. His technique is still ferocious but his tonal and dynamic/phrasing choices have left me cold for longer that I thought they were killer. Is he the Metallica of Neo-Classical shred?

Poor Robin Trower. His YT vid persona is "Oh Come on, please leave me out of this!" Gotta love the amount of background noise though, especially for a Hot Licks vid. No shitty practice amp modeler for the lesson/breakdown vid back then. The real deal, ungodly volume that he actually used. Awesome.

 

[Viesczy]

YJM sounded like YJM, nothing wrong with that. I still don't understand the slow = emotion arguement. I guess that is what those who aren't fast say to justify their inability to play more than quarter notes?

What I really noticed was the Vinnie Paul is fatter AND hairier than YJM! Close up that shirt dude shorty!

Derek

 

[Shawn Lutz]

no feeling or emotion here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRiV9EN3KSE

 

[jharpersj]

I would like to see the haters in this thread post a video of themselves playing anything by Malmsteen, the guy rips, and basically created a genre. I don't care for certain styles of music but you can't deny the absolute masters in those styles, Malmsteen being one of them. This is a guy who was able to play arena's doing guitar instrumentals, anyone else do that ?

 

[Ratou]

Almost every metal guitarist that has some kind of technical playing cite Malmsteen as an inspiration (Becker, Petrucci, Loomis, Paul Gilbert, even Guthrie Govan...). Just listen to his first solo album, back then it was unheard of, there was only Van Halen playing really technical material before him. Even today I've yet to see really accurate covers of his songs on youtube, and even those that come close there is always a feeling that they are struggling and don't come close to how effortlessly Malmsteen plays...

 

[ejecta]

I totally respect him for his technical ability in that genre of music but for me it stops there. He's a really fantastic player but it's not my thing... his playing and music gets very boring very fast. I don't have to be able to play like him or play his style to say that. The idea that you have to be able play like that in order to be able to speak your mind on something so subjective is totally stupid to me.

 

[carlygtr]

He's great in small doses. The reason he plays so effortlessly is because it's HIS style. Others imitate instead of getting their OWN style.
Funny, cause w/ all their technical ability I see guys on YT playing EVH and Yngwie all day long. You don't find many guys who cop Jimi, Trower, Blackmore, Page, etc so accurately, IMO.

 

[BMoore77]

The best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be. Changed the game.....then a million clones were born.

 

[Badronald]

He's great in small doses. The reason he plays so effortlessly is because it's HIS style. Others imitate instead of getting their OWN style.
Funny, cause w/ all their technical ability I see guys on YT playing EVH and Yngwie all day long. You don't find many guys who cop Jimi, Trower, Blackmore, Page, etc so accurately, IMO.

Like Yngwie, they all have very distinct styles. It's hard to copy distinct style without sounding lame.

That's why whenever I've been in cover bands I never tried to cop a style. Just get the spirit of the tune and do my own thing. Improvise. It's what I love about music. Creation of something out of nothing. I can't stand to hear someone copy someone else note for note.

 

[Badronald]

The best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be. Changed the game.....then a million clones were born.

Preach on. Tell it like it is, but your no daisy......

 

[C1-ocaster]

EVERY guitarist is ripping scales someone made up years ago.

To rip on Yngwie shows the depth of your intelligence. BS comes from the shallow pool.

He is a legend.

BULL SHIT!

YJM is old news. He's nothing more than a backyard high school party player.

You want to hear "Class A" tone and brilliant guitar playing without all the BS repetition listen to this. Never mind the bad audio quality, just (if you can) focus on the brilliance of the great guitar player that he is.

Watch as Robin walks you through the secrets of magnificent technique and absolute beautiful tone. Take particular note at 15:20.

YJM is nothing more than a guitar hamster on a perpetual wheel.

Welcome the master of sheer tonal quality . . . & technique that YJM will never be able to comprehend.

Enjoy!

Trower is great for sure.
But you bash Malmsteen because he plays stuff someone else wrote years ago?
Well without Hendrix there is no Robin Trower.
He copped Hendrix's style in a HUGE way.
Trower's a fine player to be sure, but he wasn't very original, which is one of the things you bash Malmsteen for.

 

[C1-ocaster]

You sound very bitter. Just sayin.

Not bitter at all my friend. I'm just pointing out that these n00bs have no idea what "good electric guitar tone" and progressive material is all about. YJM is "static". Yngwie has no concept of what good tone is. e.g. Robben Ford. As in Mr. Peter Diezel does beyond any shadow of a doubt. Robin Trower is Light Years above and beyond the endless wanking of Yngwie. And RT's technique and overwhelming writing skills and ability out shines and out weighs YJM beyond and discussion what so ever. This is not a competition, it is reality as an artist.

For not being a "competition" you sure are laying out YOUR rules for how you judge the competition.
Just say'in.

BTW, "light years above"?
Mmmmmmm, I don't think so.

 

[C1-ocaster]

I like bacon.

Bacon? It's ok.
Steak is light years ahead of bacon when it comes to substance.
Now, bacon wrapped around steak, now you've got something.

Bacon is too, ummmm, obvious and repetitive. It can be quite boring.

Kidding of course.
I do LOVE's me some bacon!

 

[C1-ocaster]

Yup....I dont really care for him....but I dont deny his skills and being true to what he loves.
I do have a few Yngwie Cd's....but can only handle him in small doses.

Now that's a good reasoned way to express a dislike.
You may not like the outcome or the final result, but you recognize the skill involved and the passion behind it.
I don't like a lot cookie monster metal music, but I sure do respect the technique, skill, and passion most of those players put into their music.

 

[C1-ocaster]

All you bacon lovers out there have to realize it's just the same sizzle meal after meal
I'd like to see bacon branch out and get involved in some pastry dishes to really show it's value
Now a canoli- that's good eating!

It has!
Bacon infused bourbon.
Maple bacon biscotti.
Bacon wrapped donuts.
Candied bacon bits on ice cream.
Bacon and grits.
Corn bread with thick cut bacon chunks. Don't forget to slather with butter, or mix bacon fat and butter and poor over the hot corn bread. Daaaaay'ummm! Coronary heaven.

When it comes to bacon we humans will find all the wonderful wacky ways of putting it on everything.

 

[C1-ocaster]

I'm glad black sabbath the band still rules, but they need to work on their online postings ...... do trolls eat bacon????

Trolls are made of bacon.