RGX_Custom
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Trump is the ultimate idiot. Someone who can easily bankrupt a few casinos can easily bankrupt a country for sure. 
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VonBonfire
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Except he's running a country and you're posting opinions in OT.
RGX_Custom
Active member
Except he's running a country and you're posting opinions in OT.
Well if it ain't Mr. Christian following me again! And you're right. Trump is running a country...into the ground.
japetus
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I lost it when I read this lmaooooChuck the Cuck! What a fucking idiot! The other cuck with the uber gay avatar of a snake with two black dicks coming out of it's head too.
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VonBonfire
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The best part is none of us care what you think about it.Well if it ain't Mr. Christian following me again! And you're right. Trump is running a country...into the ground.
Erock
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It's brilliant if China was the ultimate target. Half the world now wants to renegotiate new trade deals, and China looks like the outlier. What are they going to do without the American market?
RGX_Custom
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The best part is none of us care what you think about it.
Oh...I'm really heartbroken there Mr. VonBonfire.
But we'll see who has the last laugh when your country goes down the toilet and you'll be crying like a little school girl.
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VonBonfire
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Yes we know in the democrat mind Mueller will get him, Avenatti is presidential material, and men can be women.Oh...I'm really heartbroken there Mr. VonBonfire.
Bad Brain
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creep66
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Iran is the target. He did this to isolate China IMO so we can move on Iran while Russia is tied up in Ukraine.
Erock
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interesting.
voodooradio1
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voodooradio1
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Cry harder faggot. Only paused for countries that have agreed to negotiate. Not paused for China. In fact, it was raised for China. Canada came up off a dick long enough to kiss the ring, so it was paused for them. Trump wins again. America wins again. You lose, and will continue to do so for many more years to come. You should probably just eat a bullet. Ohh, sorry. Maybe just use a step stool and a pair of your stockings.He didn't get shit, and nobody has complied with anything. He caved. He's a weak wannabe strong man who's bullying lasted a whole 12 HOURS! 12 FUCKING HOURS!
Findthetone1
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Bloodcock and she/they/them/it's glory hole partners after posting in this thread:
JTyson
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It’s interesting to watch the lefties in here react to every blip in the markets if they go negative but stay totally silent when they are proven wrong by the next upward blip.
This stuff is gonna go up and down for at least the next month, but we will come out better in the end. What will you lemmings do when it’s obvious you were wrong and orange man was 10 steps ahead of you?
Nothing..
You will suddenly disappear from OT like usual..
All the sudden politics won’t be that important to you guys ..
And we will laugh our asses off just like we did when you were all saying he would never be president again.
Might take a few months, but this will be exactly like that was ..
The orange menace will have re-structured the trade policies for the entire planet earth and our economy is gonna zoom and you poor dumb idiots will still be saying it’s all to make his buddies richer
This stuff is gonna go up and down for at least the next month, but we will come out better in the end. What will you lemmings do when it’s obvious you were wrong and orange man was 10 steps ahead of you?
Nothing..
You will suddenly disappear from OT like usual..
All the sudden politics won’t be that important to you guys ..
And we will laugh our asses off just like we did when you were all saying he would never be president again.
Might take a few months, but this will be exactly like that was ..
The orange menace will have re-structured the trade policies for the entire planet earth and our economy is gonna zoom and you poor dumb idiots will still be saying it’s all to make his buddies richer
MadAsAHatter
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I try not post the same things in multiple threads, but it seems appropriate to post it here too...
Just a couple of thoughts that have been floating around in my head on this whole tariff and stock market thing.
The leftists and MSM are acting like Trump pausing tariffs for 90 day is him walking back as some massive failure. I don’t see it that way and here’s why. First off Trump isn’t going to show lay his cards out for all the players to see. So unless you can read his mind, most things are speculation.
It wasn’t proclaimed, but Trump did mention a while back that he would use tariffs to push other countries to the negotiating table. I’ve said that same thing here as my assessment of an immediate goal as well. Overall I think invoking the reciprocal tariffs and then pulling back was part of the plan. Invoking them I would suspect was a bit of posturing, but ultimately to see which countries were ready to play ball. That part of the plan being, those who be ready to negotiate; or at least not push back, would be given a reprieve while Trump assess the developments and talks with other countries’ leaders. Those who didn’t play ball; like China, would at minimum have tariffs stand. The unknown of the plan was mainly which countries would come to the table and which would dig their heels in. So far most seem ready to take a seat and start talks.
I’m pretty sure Trump realized there’d be fluctuations in the stock market, but I don’t suspect he foresaw such large swings. Maybe he underestimated the number of people that would panic sell. This is just guessing, but my suspicion is one of two things which sort of go hand in hand.
1. Trump saw the large downturn in the market from panic selling and came back on the tariffs sooner than he planned to keep the market from going down further.
2. Trump had a market low in mind that would signal for him it’s time to pause the tariffs depending on the number of countries willing to negotiate. That signal may or may not have come sooner than expected.
I think he would have a market low worked into the plans. That coupled with so many countries ready to negotiate signaled it was time to give the 90 day reprieve. I also think both pieces happened much sooner than even Trump could have predicted. And he kept 10% tariffs on everyone to show he’s still serious about everything and it wasn’t all just a bluff.
Continued in next post....
Just a couple of thoughts that have been floating around in my head on this whole tariff and stock market thing.
The leftists and MSM are acting like Trump pausing tariffs for 90 day is him walking back as some massive failure. I don’t see it that way and here’s why. First off Trump isn’t going to show lay his cards out for all the players to see. So unless you can read his mind, most things are speculation.
It wasn’t proclaimed, but Trump did mention a while back that he would use tariffs to push other countries to the negotiating table. I’ve said that same thing here as my assessment of an immediate goal as well. Overall I think invoking the reciprocal tariffs and then pulling back was part of the plan. Invoking them I would suspect was a bit of posturing, but ultimately to see which countries were ready to play ball. That part of the plan being, those who be ready to negotiate; or at least not push back, would be given a reprieve while Trump assess the developments and talks with other countries’ leaders. Those who didn’t play ball; like China, would at minimum have tariffs stand. The unknown of the plan was mainly which countries would come to the table and which would dig their heels in. So far most seem ready to take a seat and start talks.
I’m pretty sure Trump realized there’d be fluctuations in the stock market, but I don’t suspect he foresaw such large swings. Maybe he underestimated the number of people that would panic sell. This is just guessing, but my suspicion is one of two things which sort of go hand in hand.
1. Trump saw the large downturn in the market from panic selling and came back on the tariffs sooner than he planned to keep the market from going down further.
2. Trump had a market low in mind that would signal for him it’s time to pause the tariffs depending on the number of countries willing to negotiate. That signal may or may not have come sooner than expected.
I think he would have a market low worked into the plans. That coupled with so many countries ready to negotiate signaled it was time to give the 90 day reprieve. I also think both pieces happened much sooner than even Trump could have predicted. And he kept 10% tariffs on everyone to show he’s still serious about everything and it wasn’t all just a bluff.
Continued in next post....
MadAsAHatter
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Okay, let’s go on the opposite end and say the leftists and MSM are correct in their assessment. This whole tariff plan just backfired in Trump’s face. Trump’s a moron and had to make a U-turn and change course. If that’s the case I don’t see it the same way as the MSM is portraying it and here’s why.
Qualities of an effective leader have been written in so many business and psychological journals that it’s damn near common knowledge. Being a supervisor and always wanting to improve, I’ve read more than my fair share of these articles. In every single one of them these are always in the list of qualities.
1. Not being afraid to try something new / abandoning the “it’s always been this way” mindset.
2. Recognizing when a plan is not working / recognizing shortcoming or faults.
3. Being adaptive / knowing if or when it’s time to course correct.
In that aspect, if Trump’s plan was indeed failing he was also showing 3 signs of an effective leader. He didn’t stick to the old ways and tried a new approach, he saw his new approach wasn’t working out as he planned, and he paused tariffs while he strategizes and makes some course corrections.
Like I said in my previous post, this is all speculation. I can’t say for certain if everything that has happened thus far is all part of the plan or a failure that need course correction. In either scenario I see the positive. Either Trump is a master strategist on this topic or he’s an effective leader who recognizes when plans need to be altered. My personal opinion is it’s a bit of both.
I’m sure our resident leftists will just think or call me a Trump ass kisser or whatever and that’s fine. I have my opinions on his persona and policies and know where I stand; both good and bad. The only thing I would have to say to that is it’s sad you can’t see anything past your TDS hatred of Trump. Criticize his policies if you like, but at least have something to back it up other than “orange man bad.”
Qualities of an effective leader have been written in so many business and psychological journals that it’s damn near common knowledge. Being a supervisor and always wanting to improve, I’ve read more than my fair share of these articles. In every single one of them these are always in the list of qualities.
1. Not being afraid to try something new / abandoning the “it’s always been this way” mindset.
2. Recognizing when a plan is not working / recognizing shortcoming or faults.
3. Being adaptive / knowing if or when it’s time to course correct.
In that aspect, if Trump’s plan was indeed failing he was also showing 3 signs of an effective leader. He didn’t stick to the old ways and tried a new approach, he saw his new approach wasn’t working out as he planned, and he paused tariffs while he strategizes and makes some course corrections.
Like I said in my previous post, this is all speculation. I can’t say for certain if everything that has happened thus far is all part of the plan or a failure that need course correction. In either scenario I see the positive. Either Trump is a master strategist on this topic or he’s an effective leader who recognizes when plans need to be altered. My personal opinion is it’s a bit of both.
I’m sure our resident leftists will just think or call me a Trump ass kisser or whatever and that’s fine. I have my opinions on his persona and policies and know where I stand; both good and bad. The only thing I would have to say to that is it’s sad you can’t see anything past your TDS hatred of Trump. Criticize his policies if you like, but at least have something to back it up other than “orange man bad.”
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Geo
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If China capitulates, then I would say mission accomplished.
So far, he is accomplishing his goals by bringing countries into negotiations.
But softheads only see orange man bad. They are blinded by their brainwashing.
So far, he is accomplishing his goals by bringing countries into negotiations.
But softheads only see orange man bad. They are blinded by their brainwashing.
Wetordry
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I read part of the deal that's stalling China is they have to rename General Tso's Chicken to General Don's Chicky Nugs.