Trump Impeachment

panhead":2s1ngjac said:
It`s Obama that should have been impeached by a long shot.
Yo! El cabeza de pan, this whole ruckus is beginning to look like the OJ deal. Recall, OJ back in 1994 carried out the slashing deaths of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ron Goldman. The Dems just keep reapting the crap ad infinitum until the pathetic clowns believe their own conspiracy and in the American people's face rebuke Biden's gross misconduct and corruption.

This whole effen circus is beyond ridiculous to the Google-th power way into u4ic depth from windowpane acid.

Yee-Haw!

Like Miss P proclaims . . .

 

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spliffsperlunk":28d8q7ga said:
I hope the Republicans are just as fair and impartial as the Democrats the MSM and the FBI have been to trump over the last 3 years.

Inspector General Michael Horowitz says that the FBI has been fair and impartial to Trump over the last 3 years, here's some highlights from Hotowitz's testimony that you guys tried to roboedit your comments initially claiming that the "liberal left-wing media" did not cover the Horowitz testimony, which is utter hogwash:

Horowitz reiterated that he found no testimonial or documentary evidence of political bias or other improper motivation driving the FBI’s decision to open the counterintelligence investigation — dubbed “Crossfire Hurricane” — into the Trump campaign and Russia.

Horowitz also said that it was his conclusion that the investigation was adequately predicated.

Horowitz declined to say specifically that his findings refuted allegations about a “deep state conspiracy” against Trump and his campaign, saying simply that the inquiry found “no bias” in the opening of the investigation.

Horowitz also declined to weigh in on Barr’s disagreement with his findings after the attorney general issued a statement saying the investigation had been launched on the “thinnest” of suspicions. “He’s free to have his opinion. We have our finding,” Horowitz said.

He also said he met with Durham in November to discuss his findings, at which point Durham told Horowitz he believed the FBI would have been justified in opening a “preliminary investigation,” but not a full one. “But … [Durham] said during the meeting that the information from the friendly foreign government was, in his view, sufficient to support the preliminary investigation,” he continued, referring to information received about comments made by former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos. He said Durham told him in November that the evidence actually did support a preliminary investigation. "He said during the meeting that the information from the friendly foreign government was in his view sufficient to support the preliminary investigation,” Horowitz said. Durham’s quibble was apparently minor enough, in Horowitz’s mind, that he said he was “surprised” to see Durham release the unusual statement about an ongoing investigation.

And here's a few gems from I.G. Horowitz's report:

The information “reasonably indicated activity constituting either a federal crime or a threat to national security, or both, may have occurred or may be occurring.”

It said key officials, including former FBI Director James Comey and former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, did not act with political bias. The IG report generally found that agents were justified in launching the investigation known as Crossfire Hurricane, as well as investigations into four Trump associates: Page, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. "[W]e found that each investigation was opened for an authorized purpose and, in light of the low threshold established by department and FBI predication policy, with adequate factual predication. For similar reasons … we concluded that the quantum of information articulated by the FBI to open the individual investigations on Papadopoulos, Page, Flynn, and Manafort in August 2016 was sufficient to satisfy the low threshold established by the Department and the FBI. We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations.”

“We found no evidence that the FBI attempted to place any confidential human source’s (CHS) within the Trump campaign, recruit members of the Trump campaign as CHSs, or task CHSs to report on the Trump campaign.”

“These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later, and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.”

Key figures including agents and sources were actually supportive of Trump. One supervisory special agent (SSA) describes believing a CHS's information because the source was a Trump backer, he was “not worried about [the source] trying to provide information or getting dirty information on Trump.” He said any suggestion this CHS “was directed to damage or investigate the Trump Administration is just absurd.”

Not only was the source a Trump supporter, so too were the agents involved in cultivating him. Here’s a key footnote: We reviewed the text and instant messages sent and received by the Handling Agent, the co-case Handling Agent, and the SSA for this CHS, which reflect their support for Trump in the 2016 elections. On November 9, the day after the election, the SSA contacted another FBI employee via an instant messaging program to discuss some recent CHS reporting regarding the Clinton Foundation and offered that “if you hear talk of a special prosecutor … I will volunteer to work [on] the Clinton Foundation.” The SSA’s November 9, 2016 instant messages also stated that he “was so elated with the election” and compared the election coverage to “watching a Superbowl comeback.” The SSA explained this comment to the OIG by saying that he “fully expected Hillary Clinton to walk away with the election. But as the returns [came] in … it was just energizing to me to see … [because] I didn’t want a criminal to be in the White House.”

Michael Steele himself wasn’t exactly a Trump hater. It said Steele “stated that if anything he was ‘favorably disposed’ toward the Trump family before he began his research because he had visited a Ivanka Trump at Trump Tower and ‘been friendly’ with Ivanka for some years. He described their relationship as ‘personal’ and said that he once gifted a family tartan from Scotland to Ivanka.”

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI’s decision to seek FISA authority on Carter Page."

Horowitz said they did not find any records or evidence indicating that Mifsud was an FBI confidential human source or that his conversations with Papadopoulos were part of any FBI operation, and none of the witnesses interviewed had any information to support the allegation.

It has been long-reported that ex-counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok was the FBI official who formally opened the Crossfire Hurricane investigation in July 2016, but the inspector general report revealed that it was actually his supervisor, Bill Priestap, who ultimately made the decision.
 
Ry Manchu":37mg605v said:
spliffsperlunk":37mg605v said:
I hope the Republicans are just as fair and impartial as the Democrats the MSM and the FBI have been to trump over the last 3 years.

Inspector General Michael Horowitz says that the FBI has been fair and impartial to Trump over the last 3 years, here's some highlights from Hotowitz's testimony that you guys tried to roboedit your comments initially claiming that the "liberal left-wing media" did not cover the Horowitz testimony, which is utter hogwash:

Horowitz reiterated that he found no testimonial or documentary evidence of political bias or other improper motivation driving the FBI’s decision to open the counterintelligence investigation — dubbed “Crossfire Hurricane” — into the Trump campaign and Russia.

Horowitz also said that it was his conclusion that the investigation was adequately predicated.

Horowitz declined to say specifically that his findings refuted allegations about a “deep state conspiracy” against Trump and his campaign, saying simply that the inquiry found “no bias” in the opening of the investigation.

Horowitz also declined to weigh in on Barr’s disagreement with his findings after the attorney general issued a statement saying the investigation had been launched on the “thinnest” of suspicions. “He’s free to have his opinion. We have our finding,” Horowitz said.

He also said he met with Durham in November to discuss his findings, at which point Durham told Horowitz he believed the FBI would have been justified in opening a “preliminary investigation,” but not a full one. “But … [Durham] said during the meeting that the information from the friendly foreign government was, in his view, sufficient to support the preliminary investigation,” he continued, referring to information received about comments made by former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos. He said Durham told him in November that the evidence actually did support a preliminary investigation. "He said during the meeting that the information from the friendly foreign government was in his view sufficient to support the preliminary investigation,” Horowitz said. Durham’s quibble was apparently minor enough, in Horowitz’s mind, that he said he was “surprised” to see Durham release the unusual statement about an ongoing investigation.

And here's a few gems from I.G. Horowitz's report:

The information “reasonably indicated activity constituting either a federal crime or a threat to national security, or both, may have occurred or may be occurring.”

It said key officials, including former FBI Director James Comey and former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, did not act with political bias. The IG report generally found that agents were justified in launching the investigation known as Crossfire Hurricane, as well as investigations into four Trump associates: Page, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. "[W]e found that each investigation was opened for an authorized purpose and, in light of the low threshold established by department and FBI predication policy, with adequate factual predication. For similar reasons … we concluded that the quantum of information articulated by the FBI to open the individual investigations on Papadopoulos, Page, Flynn, and Manafort in August 2016 was sufficient to satisfy the low threshold established by the Department and the FBI. We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations.”

“We found no evidence that the FBI attempted to place any confidential human source’s (CHS) within the Trump campaign, recruit members of the Trump campaign as CHSs, or task CHSs to report on the Trump campaign.”

“These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later, and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.”

Key figures including agents and sources were actually supportive of Trump. One supervisory special agent (SSA) describes believing a CHS's information because the source was a Trump backer, he was “not worried about [the source] trying to provide information or getting dirty information on Trump.” He said any suggestion this CHS “was directed to damage or investigate the Trump Administration is just absurd.”

Not only was the source a Trump supporter, so too were the agents involved in cultivating him. Here’s a key footnote: We reviewed the text and instant messages sent and received by the Handling Agent, the co-case Handling Agent, and the SSA for this CHS, which reflect their support for Trump in the 2016 elections. On November 9, the day after the election, the SSA contacted another FBI employee via an instant messaging program to discuss some recent CHS reporting regarding the Clinton Foundation and offered that “if you hear talk of a special prosecutor … I will volunteer to work [on] the Clinton Foundation.” The SSA’s November 9, 2016 instant messages also stated that he “was so elated with the election” and compared the election coverage to “watching a Superbowl comeback.” The SSA explained this comment to the OIG by saying that he “fully expected Hillary Clinton to walk away with the election. But as the returns [came] in … it was just energizing to me to see … [because] I didn’t want a criminal to be in the White House.”

Michael Steele himself wasn’t exactly a Trump hater. It said Steele “stated that if anything he was ‘favorably disposed’ toward the Trump family before he began his research because he had visited a Ivanka Trump at Trump Tower and ‘been friendly’ with Ivanka for some years. He described their relationship as ‘personal’ and said that he once gifted a family tartan from Scotland to Ivanka.”

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI’s decision to seek FISA authority on Carter Page."

Horowitz said they did not find any records or evidence indicating that Mifsud was an FBI confidential human source or that his conversations with Papadopoulos were part of any FBI operation, and none of the witnesses interviewed had any information to support the allegation.

It has been long-reported that ex-counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok was the FBI official who formally opened the Crossfire Hurricane investigation in July 2016, but the inspector general report revealed that it was actually his supervisor, Bill Priestap, who ultimately made the decision.

More copy and paste with no source cited as usual^

IG Horowitz on Comey: "The Activities We Found Here Don’t Vindicate Anybody Who Touched This."


Pelosi Admits Democrats have been attempting to impeach Trump for the last 2 1/2 years …..


17 significant errors inconsistencies and omissions in the Carter Page FISA application not one in his favor of course.

And Rys reaction ….
 
Y'know Ry, with all the Republican retirements again in '20, Trump may of had a bit of a hard time regaining the house. But the dynamite trifecta of Pelosi, Nadler and Schiff on the minds of some with all of their impeachment shenanigans and whatnot... you might be in for some trouble.

Counting on voters forgetting this time might be a problem.
You've exposed yourselves and most likely given Trump the house and unified your opposition. Nice job, you 4D chessed yourselves.

What are you guys gonna do now that you don't have your glass dick of impeachment to suck on?
Scour around on all fours picking through the carpet to find something else to put in there? Impeachment 2.0 maybe?
Or are you gonna wake up after the Senate trial and realise you didn't get Trump out, you pissed off a lot of the country including some of your own voters, got nothing done besides dirtying up your own candidate and you're gonna lose the house too?
:LOL: :LOL:
 
Ry Manchu":1k34t10w said:
spliffsperlunk":1k34t10w said:
I hope the Republicans are just as fair and impartial as the Democrats the MSM and the FBI have been to trump over the last 3 years.

Blah, blah, blah no political bias...oh and I was wrong about Mifsud being a Russian agent. So sorry, my bad.

Yeah, not so much.
From today - “In both of these investigations you found political bias,” Johnson said to Horowitz referring to the FBI’s investigation into Hillary’s emails (MidYear Exam) and Trump’s camp.
“We found through the text messages evidence of people’s political bias,” Horowitz said to Senator Johnson.

Also - SEN. PAUL: “But could you then specifically say...there actually was evidence of political bias and evidence of record-changing that looks like malfeasance?”
HOROWITZ: “There is evidence of both, I agree with you.”

And - In an exchange with Senator Josh Hawley (MO), Horowitz admitted he “did not reach a conclusion” when asked if political bias affected the FBI’s investigations.
“Was it your conclusion that political bias did not affect any part of the [Carter] Page investigation, any part of Crossfire Hurricane?” Hawley asked Horowitz.
“We did not reach that conclusion,” Horowitz said
 
According to the U.S. Senate: "if a federal official commits a crime or otherwise acts improperly, the House of Representatives may impeach—formally charge—that official. If the official subsequently is convicted in a Senate impeachment trial, he is removed from office." :thumbsup: :cry: :aww: :D
 
did anyone catch those poor dumb kids behind trump last night as he went after another dead guy? they clearly had no idea who they were hating but blindly went along with the crowd. that is basically this entire thread in a nutshell.


comparing trump to jesus is an interesting defense. isn't there a commandment about false idols?

saying you weren't afforded due process when you turned down every invitation to appear and mount a defense.

why block witnesses from appearing if they could exonerate you?
 
Those idiots in congress are so fuckn dumb they don't even realize they just put him back in the White house for 4 more. LOL Gotta love it.
 
sleewell2":2e2s5ypw said:
did anyone catch those poor dumb kids behind trump last night as he went after another dead guy? they clearly had no idea who they were hating but blindly went along with the crowd. that is basically this entire thread in a nutshell.
Yeah, she's no dummy -

'Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-Mich.) is fundraising off President Trump's remarks on her late husband at his rally Wednesday.

"We urgently need 500 supporters to step up right now and donate as a way of saying: President Trump, you are not going to get away with bullying and insulting our congresswoman," an email with the fundraising pitch said.'

Meanwhile -

- Rising workforce participation rate
- 3.5% unemployment rate, lowest since '69
- Increasing homeownership
- 82% of middle-class households got a tax cut
- 90% of Americans got an increase in take-home pay
- 6.56 million jobs added since Trump took office
- 497,000 manufacturing jobs added under Trump
- 7.3M job openings, 1.5 million more job openings than unemployed workers
- Tax cuts doubled the Child Tax Credit, saving working families more than 100 billion
- 3.3% wage growth in 2018, the best in a decade while unemployment hit historic lows
- 34% of small business owners reported job openings they could not fill in Oct. '19
- Opioid crisis legislation
- New law making animal cruelty a federal felony
- Progress on border security & illegal immigration
- New NAFTA 2.0 trade deal
- Phase-one trade deal with China - includes increase in their purchase of U.S. goods by $200B plus $40 B in agricultural products
- Creation of U.S. Space Force
- Killing of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
 
^^^ yeah man, and this is just mentioning a few things.

So you see today now Nancy Pelosi's afraid to send over her inane articles of impeachment...
I thought they were rushing this thing through because Trump was a grave threat to national security... :LOL: :LOL:
Not so much today though huh? I guess it can wait til next year now or whenever.
 
sleewell2":1xzg15r4 said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-evangelicals/billy-grahams-evangelical-magazine-calls-for-trumps-removal-idUSKBN1YO069

Billy Grahams son Franklin Graham responds :

My Response to Christianity Today:
Christianity Today released an editorial stating that President Trump should be removed from office—and they invoked my father’s name (I suppose to try to bring legitimacy to their statements), so I feel it is important for me to respond. Yes, my father Billy Graham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree with their opinion piece. In fact, he would be very disappointed. I have not previously shared who my father voted for in the past election, but because of this article, I feel it is necessary to share it now. My father knew Donald Trump, he believed in Donald Trump, and he voted for Donald Trump. He believed that Donald J. Trump was the man for this hour in history for our nation.
For Christianity Today to side with the Democrat Party in a totally partisan attack on the President of the United States is unfathomable. Christianity Today failed to acknowledge that not one single Republican voted with the Democrats to impeach the President. I know a number of Republicans in Congress, and many of them are strong Christians. If the President were guilty of what the Democrats claimed, these Republicans would have joined with the Democrats to impeach him. But the Democrats were not even unanimous—two voted against impeachment and one voted present. This impeachment was politically motivated, 100% partisan. Why would Christianity Today choose to take the side of the Democrat left whose only goal is to discredit and smear the name of a sitting president? They want readers to believe the Democrat leadership rather than believe the President of the United States.
Look at all the President has accomplished in a very short time. The economy of our nation is the strongest it has been in 50 years, ISIS & the caliphate have been defeated, and the President has renegotiated trade deals to benefit all Americans. The list of accomplishments is long, but for me as a Christian, the fact that he is the most pro-life president in modern history is extremely important—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that, to say it doesn’t count? The President has been a staunch defender of religious freedom at home and around the world—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that? Also the President has appointed conservative judges in record number—and Christianity today wants us to ignore that? Christianity Today feels he should be removed from office because of false accusations that the President emphatically denies.
Christianity Today said it’s time to call a spade a spade. The spade is this—Christianity Today has been used by the left for their political agenda. It’s obvious that Christianity Today has moved to the left and is representing the elitist liberal wing of evangelicalism.
Is President Trump guilty of sin? Of course he is, as were all past presidents and as each one of us are, including myself. Therefore, let’s pray for the President as he continues to lead the affairs of our nation.

https://www.facebook.com/FranklinGraham ... 7574177071
 
lol everyone is "far left" the second they disagree with the cult. the more kool aid you drink the better it tastes i guess.


was anyone calling them far left before today?
 
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