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Conan, back in action
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krull i really feel bad for you. do you have any friends or a family? anyone to talk to outside of the internet? you seem lonely. hope things improve for you.
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lester":2bpjg4rc said:
Nancy Pelosi just called Lindsey Graham's bluff. You do know that the current closed-door procedures for committee hearings for the House were ratified by John Boehner in 2015 when Republicans held the majority? Lester, I don't recall seeing you complaining about any of the six, repeat six, Benghazi hearings conducted in exactly this manner. 48 Republicans sit on the committees that have been investigating the Ukraine influence campaign, and they have been afforded hours upon hours of equal time for questioning witnesses. Also, your whole second hand information defense, just went out the window. Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman is testifying that he was on the call with Zelensky, because it was his job. And then he promptly reported it to the NSC legal counsel and to his superiors.
The oven is a toasty 350 degrees and the goose is going in.
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Krull makes a good point though. Nancy Pelosi's stupid game trying to cover her members in swing type districts so they can use the excuse - 'We didn't vote for an impeachment, we just voted to get answers...it was an inquiry'
Is just that, transparently bullshit and weak.
She should just stick to what she really enjoys and quit making a fool of herself - judging by her actions, Nancy's weekly most likely to do list:
- cocaine....check
- xanax....check
- "Pelosi's Stallions" escort service...no doubt
Is just that, transparently bullshit and weak.
She should just stick to what she really enjoys and quit making a fool of herself - judging by her actions, Nancy's weekly most likely to do list:
- cocaine....check
- xanax....check
- "Pelosi's Stallions" escort service...no doubt
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lester":3r2sicym said:
Uh huh. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Fucking Ry... dude, there's no "room", nobody's "listening", you are not in the "points" awarding business and it strains credulity that you could get any "dumber".
Other than that though you're doing a hell of a job. Keep at it broski. You being right about something is bound to happen some day...it has to.
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I mean c'mon Ry...seriously?
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Ry Manchu":1mga5rqj said:
Well now that you mention it, let's see what you think about this, just curious. -
The Event.
Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to secretly retrieve US made Stinger Missiles that the State Dept had supplied to Ansar al Sharia in Libya WITHOUT Congressional oversight or permission. Sec State Hillary Clinton had brokered the Libya deal through Ambassador Stevens and a Private Arms Dealer named Marc Turi, but some of the shoulder fired Stinger Missiles ended up in Afghanistan where they were used against our own military.
On July 25th, 2012, a US Chinook helicopter was downed by one of them. Not destroyed only because the idiot Taliban didn't arm the missile. The helicopter didn't explode, but it had to land and an ordnance team recovered the missile’s serial number which led back to a cache of Stinger Missiles kept in Qatar by the CIA.
Obama and Hillary were in full panic mode, so Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to retrieve the rest of the Stinger Missiles. This was a "do-or-die" mission, which explains the Stand Down Orders given to multiple rescue teams during the siege of the US Embassy.
It was the State Dept, NOT the CIA, that supplied the Stinger Missiles to our enemies because Gen. Petraeus at CIA would not approve supplying the deadly missiles due to their potential use against commercial aircraft. So then, Obama threw Gen. Petraeus under the bus when he refused to testify in support of Obama’s phony claim of a “spontaneous uprising caused by a YouTube video that insulted Muslims.”
Obama and Hillary committed TREASON. That is why she had a Private Server, (in order to delete the evidence), and why Obama, two weeks after the attack, told the UN that the attack was the result of the YouTube video, even though everyone knew it was not.
The Taliban knew that the administration had aided and abetted the enemy so they began pressuring (blackmailing) the Obama Administration to release five Taliban generals being held at Guantanamo. Bowe Bergdahl was just a useful pawn used to cover the release of the Taliban generals
Everyone knew Bergdahl was a traitor but Obama used Bergdahl’s exchange for the five Taliban generals to cover that Obama was being coerced by the Taliban about the unauthorized Stinger Missile deal.
This is why no military aircraft were called upon for help in Benghazi, because the administration knew that our enemies had Stinger Missiles, that if used to down those planes, would be traced back to the CIA cache in Qatar, and then to the State Dept’s illegitimate arms deal in Libya.
So we had a traitor (BHO) as POTUS that was not only corrupt, but compromised as well, and a Sec of State that is a serial liar, who lied multiple times at the Congressional Hearings on Benghazi.
search:
Benghazi weapons phoenix Marc Turi
>Marc Turi: The mysterious saga of an Arizona arms dealer
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/lo ... /94023174/
>Obama and DOJ drops charges against Libyan weapons arms dealer
https://www.sott.net/article/330169-Oba ... rms-dealer
tldr;
Arms Dealer..
Obama Hillary Benghazi scapegoat..
DOJ evidence for defense..
case dismissed
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Lester, you can't argue the facts and you can't argue the law, so you resort to character disparagement of Nancy Pelosi. Trump admitted he is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. Mick Mulvaney admitted he is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.
In Federalist No. 65, Alexander Hamilton defined high crimes and misdemeanors as, "those offences which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself." Hamilton meant misuse of a politician's official powers. At the Virginia ratifying convention, James Madison and Wilson Nicholas said abuse of the pardon power would be impeachable. Impeachment, some founders said, would also follow from receipt of foreign emoluments or presidential efforts to secure by trickery Senate ratification of a disadvantageous treaty. During the first Congress of 1789, Madison even argued that presidents could be impeached for “wanton removal of meritorious officers.”
At the time of the Founding Fathers, high crimes and misdemeanors had 400 years of English common law precedent and this was once again confirmed by Congress during the Nixon impeachment to include: appointing unfit subordinates, not prosecuting cases, not spending money allocated by Parliament, violations of oath of office, promoting themselves ahead of more deserving candidates, threatening a grand jury, disobeying an order from Parliament, dishonesty, neglect of duty, bribery, intimidation, misuse of public funds or assets, failure to supervise, unbecoming conduct, refusal to obey a lawful order, obstruction of justice, perjury of oath, abuse of authority, dereliction of duty, military mismanagement, failure to supervise, tax evasion, moral turpitude, conduct unbecoming, incompetence, corruption, and betrayal of the public trust.
In Federalist No. 65, Alexander Hamilton defined high crimes and misdemeanors as, "those offences which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself." Hamilton meant misuse of a politician's official powers. At the Virginia ratifying convention, James Madison and Wilson Nicholas said abuse of the pardon power would be impeachable. Impeachment, some founders said, would also follow from receipt of foreign emoluments or presidential efforts to secure by trickery Senate ratification of a disadvantageous treaty. During the first Congress of 1789, Madison even argued that presidents could be impeached for “wanton removal of meritorious officers.”
At the time of the Founding Fathers, high crimes and misdemeanors had 400 years of English common law precedent and this was once again confirmed by Congress during the Nixon impeachment to include: appointing unfit subordinates, not prosecuting cases, not spending money allocated by Parliament, violations of oath of office, promoting themselves ahead of more deserving candidates, threatening a grand jury, disobeying an order from Parliament, dishonesty, neglect of duty, bribery, intimidation, misuse of public funds or assets, failure to supervise, unbecoming conduct, refusal to obey a lawful order, obstruction of justice, perjury of oath, abuse of authority, dereliction of duty, military mismanagement, failure to supervise, tax evasion, moral turpitude, conduct unbecoming, incompetence, corruption, and betrayal of the public trust.
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lester":3gkqvaj2 said:
Your allegations are based on the writings of Roger Simon and Kenneth Timmerman. They both used anonymous sources and have never offered any proof of their claims. Julian Assange made similar claims that Hillary was arming groups in Libya and Syria including Al Qaeda and ISIS, yet has never released any proof. What we do know is that the French sold Qatar several thousand Russian SAM-7 missiles. These could be mistaken for Stinger missile to untrained personnel. The French have never denied that they sold these misiles. The Obama administration approved of the sale, at first, which was a violation of a UN resolution.
The SAM-7 missiles were smuggled into Libya and sold to several anti-Qaddafi groups, including Al Qaeda. This is when the Obama administration became alarmed and began acting to stop the sales. SAM-7's have since been found on ships in Tripoli and Turkey and believed to be bound for Syria. The SAM-7's have also been found in tunnels near the Gaza strip, in Niger, with Boko Haram in Nigeria and in the hands of Somali pirates. Al Qaeda in Mali also smuggled 8 pickup truckloads of SAM-7's out of Libya. Qaddafi had a stockpile of at least 20,000 heat seeking missiles including SAM-7's that have also disappeared. A portion of this is believed to have been shipped to Syria.
The ship with the SAM-7 missiles in Turkey docked just 3 days after ambassador Stevens was killed. At the time of his death, it has been reported that there was a sizable number of CIA personnel on the ground in Libya attempting to retrieve missiles. Hillary Clinton would not have had to order ambassador Stevens on a missile retrieving mission and no proof has ever been put forward that she did. No post-Mujahadeen Stinger missiles have been recovered or used in an attack, so there is no proof that any were ever sold. Javelin missiles that the U.S. or France sold to the U.A.E. in 2008 have turned up in Libya in the past year.
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This coming from the guy that thinks Trump is innocent, even though the transcript proves his guilt. How about you try to argue relevant facts, for once? What proof do you have that Trump is innocent?
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Which part specifically?Ry Manchu":f7ns2jri said:
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President Zelenskyy: I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps, specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes...
The· President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows alot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation.. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it.
The· President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows alot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation.. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it.
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Ry Manchu":c3lxzrlx said:
High crime for sure!
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Sondland, trump donor w no prior experience, said there was a quid pro quo directed by trump.
Vindland, purple heart war vet w decades of experience, was on the call and claims that the transcript is not accurate and the call was more damning for trump.
Taylor, Vietnam vet w decades of experience, claims multiple instances of quid pro quo carried out by the three amigos at the direction of trump.
Mulvaney floats a trial balloon admitting to everything only to walk it back when he realized his stupidity.
Interesting that some still believe cadet bone spurs...
Vindland, purple heart war vet w decades of experience, was on the call and claims that the transcript is not accurate and the call was more damning for trump.
Taylor, Vietnam vet w decades of experience, claims multiple instances of quid pro quo carried out by the three amigos at the direction of trump.
Mulvaney floats a trial balloon admitting to everything only to walk it back when he realized his stupidity.
Interesting that some still believe cadet bone spurs...
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Krull":2hl3rw34 said:
The Whistleblower never met with Schiff. He contacted Schiff's office to inquire as to the proper means to file his whistleblower complaint.
Vindland testified yesterday that the White House transcript is incomplete. He said that Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and Burisma were specifically talked about by Trump and Zelinsky and this was edited out of the initial transcript which he read. That is a count of perjury on Trump's part who claimed the transcipt was "word for word, comma for comma." Did you know that a President after he takes his oath of office does not have to be a sworn witness to commit perjury. Any lie he says is perjury that he can be impeached for. That is 13.435 potential articles of impeachment. But we can chalk it up to 1, that he is the biggest liar in the history of the presidency.
When you bring up Hillary and Obama it is plainly obvious that you are trying to further muddy the waters from all the dirty swampish behavior of Trump. Hillary has not held an office for 7 years and Obama for 3. They are not currently being investigated for anything. Hillary was completely exonerated of the emails and Benghazi. Trump on the other hand is keeping every State and Federal prosecutor in Florida, New York and Washington D.C. busy with all of his corruption investigations. Did you know that 20% of all sales made by the Trump organization were to shell corporations with no buyer name listed. Only 2 real estate companies in New York City allowed such transactions. What percentage of that 20% do you think was Russian money? Seeing as how 2 different Rusian criminal organizations had offices in Trump Tower.
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Krull":3d5ywr78 said:
You are clearly insane.