Uber cab: what a monster. My best mix. 5150/Uber cab content

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This cab has really surprised me lately, and it’s the first time I’ve really spent some time micing it up. I just can’t make it sound bad. Micing the V30 with a single unidyne 57, gave me some really thick tones here. It’s just super thick and never harsh, a phenomenal cab and can be had decently cheap. I also think this is the best mix I’ve ever done, and it sounds phenomenal here.

peavey 5150
Horizon drive
Bogner Uber cab V30 mic’d
Unidyne
Warm WA73 mic pre

let’s go!

https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/vJ1FfxojkMwdJxNZ6
 
Sounds very meaty mate! Nice!

5150 sounds like it would have the presence pretty high there with mids backed down a little.
Nice tone
 
saxxamafone said:
Sounds very meaty mate! Nice!

5150 sounds like it would have the presence pretty high there with mids backed down a little.
Nice tone
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Yep, presence was way up on this one. Partly for the vibe of those tones from that era, and partly due to the Uber cab being quite thick and not near as cutting as some of my other cabs.
 
VESmedic said:
Thanks man. I generally prefer my Mesa and the Mesa V30s, but this sounded great for it, whatever works.
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If you ever get the chance i think it would be interesting to set your head the way you like it and then try that setting on each cab mic'd up and compare the recordings.
 
mrmega said:
If you ever get the chance i think it would be interesting to set your head the way you like it and then try that setting on each cab mic'd up and compare the recordings.
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Most of the time, Atleast with the 5150 for sure, it is set almost exactly the same. Slight tweaks to the presence above 6 yield the most drastic changes, and is where the lower of the 5150s eq sits. Most people will say it sounds bad above 6 or so, but it can be too dull under that when recording heavier types of metal. Plus, it’s always easy to notch out the 3-4K range what you don’t like with an eq in the box afterwords, and still be left with all the attack and forward presence you need.

On that note, what you are asking is an extremely difficult test to do, because mic placement will never be exactly the same, and even a few cm difference in placement in relation to the cone will yield drastic changes in tone on the same cab, let alone comparing two different cabs: you’ll never get it right, and furthermore, you will never get the same sound again, even taping off mic placements on your cab etc: it just won’t ever happen.

you can get a general idea of the tone differences when comparing cabs with the same speakers and same mics, but there are far too many variables to differentiate why the tones are different. Is it the placement differences? Volume fluctuations? Differences in your signal chain into the computer etc? It’s very difficult to do!
 
That Driftwood sounds very similar to the Rev F but a bit clearer and tighter. Me likey. All great clips!
 
ErikT said:
That Driftwood sounds very similar to the Rev F but a bit clearer and tighter. Me likey. All great clips!
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Yep, all gonna be close, same mic position etc, also both the rev F and driftwood were boosted by a peppers dirty tree as well.
 
VESmedic said:
Most of the time, Atleast with the 5150 for sure, it is set almost exactly the same. Slight tweaks to the presence above 6 yield the most drastic changes, and is where the lower of the 5150s eq sits. Most people will say it sounds bad above 6 or so, but it can be too dull under that when recording heavier types of metal. Plus, it’s always easy to notch out the 3-4K range what you don’t like with an eq in the box afterwords, and still be left with all the attack and forward presence you need.

On that note, what you are asking is an extremely difficult test to do, because mic placement will never be exactly the same, and even a few cm difference in placement in relation to the cone will yield drastic changes in tone on the same cab, let alone comparing two different cabs: you’ll never get it right, and furthermore, you will never get the same sound again, even taping off mic placements on your cab etc: it just won’t ever happen.

you can get a general idea of the tone differences when comparing cabs with the same speakers and same mics, but there are far too many variables to differentiate why the tones are different. Is it the placement differences? Volume fluctuations? Differences in your signal chain into the computer etc? It’s very difficult to do!
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I agree with everything you said, it would be extremely difficult to make everything exact. What we do in our studio for such tests is just have fun with it. First we set the head for a sound we like. Then decide on a 1 mic technique, so for example lets say we use an sm57 at a 45 degree angle an inch from the edge of the cone. We would basically use the same placement on both cabs and then in that general area find what we think sounds the best for each cab and then compare the two post recording. So it isn't exact or scientific but it does satisfy our curiosity :D

It's kind of like trying to get the same sound from song to song on an album. It's not possible to get exactly the same thing so we just get what sounds good in the moment.

Even when we have set everything up and left everything the same overnight, what we had 1 day can sound different the next even though nothing was changed in terms of settings and placement. Differences in temperature, humidity and other factors make a difference. Some tube heads are fairly consistent day to day, and some are quite finicky.
 
VESmedic said:
Yep, all gonna be close, same mic position etc, also both the rev F and driftwood were boosted by a peppers dirty tree as well.
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I just preordered a dirty tree a couple of weeks ago.. Hearing this makes me even more glad I did. How hard did you slam the front end of the amp and which mode of the dirty tree did you use?
 
mrmega said:
I just preordered a dirty tree a couple of weeks ago.. Hearing this makes me even more glad I did. How hard did you slam the front end of the amp and which mode of the dirty tree did you use?
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I use the TC mode always, never the DT mode. It just simply sounds better. It’s very much a set it and forget it pedal for me, and I think you’ll find this to be true as well. Bass ALL the way down. As far as it goes, period. Treble and output at zero. And never touch it again. This is the way trust me :)
 
For anyone interested, I got a BAE 1073 preamp today and it is a monster. Not worlds better, but the last few percentages make a big difference at this stage to me. Mainly in the transient snd low end response, it’s just stellar.

here are a few mixes with the BAE:

rev F:

https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/RwDJgpNStnn2yPqh7
Driftwood purple nightmare:

https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/Lp4v6vRDmwbvWEFKA
Driftwood again with horizon precision drive:

https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/EQH4GhTkj6zc3kgb8
The driftwood is too clean sounding slightly for the KSE style tones, but it sounds killer none the less.
 
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