Uber Twin Jet Vs. Uber Rev Blue Lead channel...

[Moshaholic]

I have still not has a chance to play a Twat Jet in person and I heard they voiced the lead channel like the original or first version uber?

Anybody have first hand comparison experience on this.
thanks..


xgx

 

[crabby]

i had the chance to play em side by side, dont know what your after but the twin jet was a big let down COMPARED to the uber blue edition. they didnt even sound close. the blue had more low end punch and smoother creamier type leads, the twin jet was just ........ah? ok. if you find the post on secret scranton amp fest ask the other 3 guys that were at my house all 4 of us agreed on the same opinion......

 

[se7en]

A 'Twat Jet'?

I find mine a lot better than the Blue Revision I played a couple years back. Tighter, more open, more agressive and more versatile.

 

[sixstrings]

I haven't yet played the Twin Jet, but I had a revision blue and it was fucking incredible. It's a really great amp. I also had a 20th anniversary Shiva which came out about the same time as the Twin Jet, and it's an amazing amp for sure. The Twin Jet has got to be awesome too.

 

[se7en]

Here's a clip:

 

[RedB4Black]

I played them side-by-side for a few minutes. I preferred the twin jet. Channel one is great for mid-gain tones. Channel 2 was similar - maybe a little brighter. I really like how much tighter the KT88s made it. I had one but just sold it to Zombieland. He has both the Rev. Blue and the Twin Jet now. He posted about it on HC.

 

[Death by Uberschall]

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I was starting to think, "I wonder how the clean channel sounds?", that was until he started twisting knobs.

I really think Bogner should consider a 3 channel Uberschall, the simplified evil twin brother to the XTC, just without all the XTC switches, etc. I could see a market for it.

XTC = smooth and refined, the great all around head that we know and love
Uberschall = rips your face off and hands it back to you

 

[se7en]

I was starting to think, "I wonder how the clean channel sounds?", that was until he started twisting knobs.

I really think Bogner should consider a 3 channel Uberschall, the simplified evil twin brother to the XTC, just without all the XTC switches, etc. I could see a market for it.

XTC = smooth and refined, the great all around head that we know and love
Uberschall = rips your face off and hands it back to you

The clean is nice. I don't really see the need for 3 channels with mine. Just by rolling off the volume on either channel I can get a nice pristine clean. It cleans up real well.

 

[Death by Uberschall]

I'm thinking that a modern voiced XTC would be a nice addition to the line up.

Just as the CCV and CCM are close, but not the same. XTC = CVV, Uber= CCM

 

[se7en]

I'm thinking that a modern voiced XTC would be a nice addition to the line up.

Try the 20th XTC then. It's plenty modern for me. I can get the red channel into similar Uber territory.

 

[Hard&Heavy]

i had the chance to play em side by side, dont know what your after but the twin jet was a big let down COMPARED to the uber blue edition. they didnt even sound close. the blue had more low end punch and smoother creamier type leads, the twin jet was just ........ah? ok. if you find the post on secret scranton amp fest ask the other 3 guys that were at my house all 4 of us agreed on the same opinion......

Same here I had both and there was a few of us here and we all came to the same conclusion as you guys,but we did like the clean channel better on the twin jet.

 

[Les Zombie]

Not to say anybody is wrong in their hearing nor assessment but I have had every version. In my opinion the higher gain channel of the TJ is not only better than any previous uber but way more varied. If you set the eqs on an Rev. Blue the same as a TJ to get a similar tone, that won't work.They do not react or sound the same. The Master controls -depth and presence hugely affect the tone but the way I hear it and my friends the TJ crushes the Rev blue.

I agree, I currently have both and have been comparing them for a few days.
With both amps on ch2 The tj is tighter and has more punch, it's brighter and has more cut for a band situation, less compressed and clearer sounding gain and is more pissed off sounding. It's also a louder amp, the controls are more responsive too, the master depth and pres adds more versatility for other tones and ch1 has some nice tones.
My rev blue is darker and more saturated, more sag and loose feeling, more compressed and little but smoother gain. I agree both amps don't sound exactly the same but I think the tj sounds better an will cure the issues some people had an why they don't like the past ubers.
It still sounds like a uber but the feel is better and it can do alot more now than It could before.

That's what I hear when I compare them, most complaints from people have been that the uber is really loose and muddy and I can't say that about the tj. I've seen lots of complaints that the past ubers was 1 trick ponys and that can't be said anymore. The channel volumes are better balanced now.
I'm no expert and there's plenty of people that know more about tone than me.

 

[tonmazz]

i had the chance to play em side by side, dont know what your after but the twin jet was a big let down COMPARED to the uber blue edition. they didnt even sound close. the blue had more low end punch and smoother creamier type leads, the twin jet was just ........ah? ok. if you find the post on secret scranton amp fest ask the other 3 guys that were at my house all 4 of us agreed on the same opinion......

I have to agree with Crabby on this. The twin jet channel 2 sounds like it is voiced like the Blue rev but the it doesn't have the warmth. I don't know if it was the KT88s or what but I love My Blue Rev Uber and I ended up selling the Twin Jet. It definately didn't have the throw and punch of the Blue Rev. For someone looking for a tight amp with 2 really good channels, the TJ is nice. In comparison for my tastes, Blue Rev all the way.

 

[zewango]

Wow, I'm liking this info

 

[se7en]

I'm a huge EL34 fan, but the KT88's sound just as warm to me... the way you can control the power amp knobs allows you to tailor the low end and even the feel of the amp. I passed on the blue because it wasn't open enough for my tastes and the dynamics weren't there...the TJ is more responsive has a more wide open EQ...it takes a while to get the optimal power amp and preamp knobs set, but it's actually very easy to get something that sits well in a band mix. I think the bigger power section was a very natural evolution of the amp.

 

[Rayneman]

I've owned the Rev 2, Blue, and now the Twin Jet. I've only had the TJ for a couple of days, but I can easily tell that its different from previous versions but yet doesn't stray far from the trademark Uber (2nd) channel tone. So far I feel like the EQ is more responsive, and that its brighter than previous versions. I wonder if the addition of the "global" depth and presence is the issue?

 

[nbarts]

Here's a clip:

What speakers are in that VHT?

 

[se7en]

What speakers are in that VHT?

p50's maybe? kinda sounds like 'em. probably front-loaded like the uber cab. what's cool about the tj, is that even though it's so tight, it's not stiff...the feel has just a bit of give.

 

[se7en]

Here's another dude playing it that is a more eclectic and entertaining player:

 

[ericsabbath]

I'm thinking that a modern voiced XTC would be a nice addition to the line up.

Just as the CCV and CCM are close, but not the same. XTC = CVV, Uber= CCM

you could mod the uber to a xtc oriented tone just with some slight revoicing
that would be quite interesting
that's what I intended for the last christmas, but couldn't afford one