Versatile bridge and neck pickups for a PRS SE Custom 24?

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TL;DR version - I need recommendations for versatile humbuckers (bridge and neck) for a PRS SE Custom 24, that:

* Have good cleans and modern high gain,
* Have good note clarity and separation, especially under gain while playing complex chords
* Coil-split well without sounding weak or thin
* Clean up well and respond well to volume knob control
* For the bridge humbucker: add some body and girth, and sound a bit less nasal.
* For neck humbucker: retain clarity and definition for high-gain lead sounds, but still have a full, warm yet clear clean tone


If you're still reading, thank you! I'm looking for pickup recommendations for my PRS SE Custom 24, that can span a range of sounds from blues-rock and some jazz to progressive and modern metal. The guitar has a mahogany back, maple top, maple neck and rosewood fingerboard, with 24 frets. The current (stock) pickups in it are the PRS SE HFS and SE VB, SE being the import versions of the HFS and VB.

As a session musician, I'm often required to play anything from soft pop-rock or jazz to progressive metal on the same day. I need something that has that kind of versatility. For reference, my current pickups are satisfactory in terms of the range of styles I can convincingly cover.

What I don't like about my current pickups in this guitar
What I'm currently dissatisfied with about my pickups is that the bridge humbucker can sound nasal, honky and overly mid-heavy (but not in the low-mids) overall, especially on clean sounds. A lot of the 1 khz frequency zone. Not enough girth, on the other hand. When in coil-split mode, the bridge pickup sounds too thin and weak to be usable for anything. For distorted lead sounds, I sometimes find the pickup thin and lacking some body, fullness and fluidity to the tone.

The current neck humbucker sounds pretty good clean and on low-gain sounds, but can get wooly, flubby, undefined and somewhat muffled when used for high-gain leads. When coil-split, it's not bad but still quite far from the body, punch and glassiness I'd want from a neck single-coil approximation, especially for blues-rock lead playing.

What I'm looking for in my new pickups
What I'm looking for now is a set of pickups for both bridge and neck positions, that are stylistically versatile with good cleans for jazz and pop, and tight, full high-gain sounds for various kinds of not-very-brutal metal (see below for more details on styles I play), will balance the tone of this guitar more, will coil-split well and will clean up nicely with the volume knob, without sounding muddy or weak. I like the split-coil/single-coil neck sound a lot for blues and blues rock playing, and that's a priority for me. I use my volume knob often to control the gain of my drive pedals or amps.

The styles I often need to play, roughly in order of frequency

* Modern rock
* Blues-rock and blues (especially with a coil-split neck)
* Pop and softer rock
* Jazz, jazz-fusion and jazz-rock (what I spend most of my time playing at home)
* Progressive metal and some modern metal (as opposed to 80s metal). A lot of complex chords with extensions, and tight low-note riffing, but still in standard tuning or a step down.


I've been quite impressed with what I've been hearing about Bare Knuckle Pickups, and they seem like extremely high-quality stuff that a lot of people swear by. But I'm not restricting my search to BKP stuff by any means, so I'm open to any suggestions that fit my requirements.

Please help me find the bridge and neck humbuckers that will make me happiest!
 
Suhr Aldrich set! Covers everything your looking for but have to be able to use your volume controls
 
I have Dimarzio 36th neck/AT-1 in my custom 22, and I like them. If I were more into shred, I'd use the Air Norton in the neck. Whatever you get, try them with and without the stock PRS treble bleed. I prefer my pickups without it.
 
SDMF38":82wascin said:
Suhr Aldrich set! Covers everything your looking for but have to be able to use your volume controls

I looked at these a couple of times, but I wonder if the voicing and character is a bit 80s, in the sense of it being less tight and clear than some of the competition. I'll look through opinions and reviews of them again, now. Where I'm located, trying them out personally before buying is not an option, unfortunately.
 
Anyone with opinions on the Bare Knuckle offerings? I must stress that good cleans and mid-gain bluesy lead tones and rock crunch are as important as the tight, complex modern riffing sounds. A couple of people suggested the BKP Juggernauts.
 
Phosphenetre":2ibiezy5 said:
Anyone with opinions on the Bare Knuckle offerings? I must stress that good cleans and mid-gain bluesy lead tones and rock crunch are as important as the tight, complex modern riffing sounds. A couple of people suggested the BKP Juggernauts.

Your tonal descriptions are very close to mine. My band plays everything from Dwight Yokam, Soundgarden, and Prince to Metallica, REO Speedwayon, and the Black Keys. I have VHII in the bridge and Dimarzio Air Norton in the neck of my CU24. I've grown tired of the VHII. It's super clear and defined and rolls off with the volume knob better than any pickup I've ever owned, but it's just too underpowered for me. There are times when it has a single coil like quality that has started to bother me. It's a great pup though, don't get me wrong. I need something else though for what I want. It's very open, but I actually would like a little more compression. Can't comment on any other pups in the BK line. Never tried them. I'm starting to really hate the Air Norton though. It's sterile and lifeless compared to the BK.

I contacted Wade at Motor City for suggestions. He recommended the Dragon Suit bridge and new Candy's model for the neck. Neither of these pups are listed on his website. He really needs to update his site, but that's a whole other conversation. I think the Dragon Suit is around 12-14k and the Candy's is around 8ish. I wanted something in the bridge that can rock but isn't too hot or cold and can clean up well but still be raunchy. I want something in the neck that is brighter, mildly scooped, and woody. Those were his recommendations. I haven't been able to purchase yet, but I will, hopefully, once I get my taxes back.
 
Mr. Willy":29atji2u said:
Phosphenetre":29atji2u said:
Anyone with opinions on the Bare Knuckle offerings? I must stress that good cleans and mid-gain bluesy lead tones and rock crunch are as important as the tight, complex modern riffing sounds. A couple of people suggested the BKP Juggernauts.

Your tonal descriptions are very close to mine. My band plays everything from Dwight Yokam, Soundgarden, and Prince to Metallica, REO Speedwayon, and the Black Keys. I have VHII in the bridge and Dimarzio Air Norton in the neck of my CU24. I've grown tired of the VHII. It's super clear and defined and rolls off with the volume knob better than any pickup I've ever owned, but it's just too underpowered for me. There are times when it has a single coil like quality that has started to bother me. It's a great pup though, don't get me wrong. I need something else though for what I want. It's very open, but I actually would like a little more compression. Can't comment on any other pups in the BK line. Never tried them. I'm starting to really hate the Air Norton though. It's sterile and lifeless compared to the BK.

I contacted Wade at Motor City for suggestions. He recommended the Dragon Suit bridge and new Candy's model for the neck. Neither of these pups are listed on his website. He really needs to update his site, but that's a whole other conversation. I think the Dragon Suit is around 12-14k and the Candy's is around 8ish. I wanted something in the bridge that can rock but isn't too hot or cold and can clean up well but still be raunchy. I want something in the neck that is brighter, mildly scooped, and woody. Those were his recommendations. I haven't been able to purchase yet, but I will, hopefully, once I get my taxes back.

Thanks, I haven't looked into Motor City stuff, I'll investigate later today and probably contact them for a recommendation if they seem like the sort of stuff I'd be into.

Speaking of BKPs, as I mentioned earlier, I'd been recommended the Juggernauts a few times but wasn't sure about the basic voice and character of the pickups until I found out that Plini has them in his guitars. I'm a big fan of his tones, for the whole modern progressive rock/metal vibe, and while those sounds are obviously about a lot more than just the pickups, they made me look at the BKP Juggernaut set much more closely.

I love his rhythm tones through this track, for the modern progressive metal/rock. For the riff around 1:41, there's growl and a certain creamy, saturated thickness, but is still tight and very clear through all the dense voicings he's playing. No harshness or fizz. I love his lead tone around 2:53 too, warm but clear with a lot of articulation.




Another track off the same album, his lead tone starting 4:11 is something I'd really like to get closer to. It has a great combination of warmth and clarity.




Both the above clips are very much in the 'modern' camp in terms of tonal character and voice, but I'd have to say that high-gain sounds like these are what I'd end up using a lot more than the more 80s flavour of high-gain. As for the cleans, it's a toss up between more vintage/warm and more modern/clear.
 
Seymour Duncans are tried and true. I like the Duncan Custom/'59 combo, personally. Don't pay for hype.
 
Lace Alumintone Deathbucker for bridge, Alumintone Humbucker in the neck.
 
Bareknuckle Rebel Yells. I have them in several guitars and am always impressed. They split well, they roll off well, they are crisp and articulate, they do cleans well, they do all kinds of gains well, no mud, no disappointments. FANTASTIC!!!!
 

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