Very interesting view of Michael Wagener on the Kemper amp

[Ventura]

Yep. And the Fractal conspiracists are stating that because of Wagener's "German" lineage, he's taking sides with a "German" company.

Interestingly enough though, UK Guitarist's "Best of 2012" just out this month? Kemper over the Fractal. I am still awaiting the feedback on that decision from their readership.

Peace
Mo

Hey Mo,

Damn... What cars can the Germans drive? No Benz or BMW.

They must be relegated to an old Fiat or something. Cruise the Bahn in an old MGB or something.

I like Wagner over the years of playing. His opinion on guitar tone thru the glory days of shred should matter. If nothing else, he has tread firsthand where most keyboard players have only imagined.

The long clip of Kemper modes that SkyHigh did showed me the K does get the essence of most amps. It is hard to fault the emerging technology. So much good stuff. I don't get the hating bit of the this camp vs that camp. Learn to play the song and use what works best that you can afford.

My philosophy on gear is this. Use gear as a tool, don't be a tool about gear.

Peace

Sig worthy Braddah... I think I may have to borrow this one if you don't mind - you'll get full credit.
Mo

 

[Gainfreak]

I'm intrigued and want to try one out. I haven't heard of anyone who has actually spent some time with one concerned about any aliasing issues...just those who feel that they can make audio judgments with their eyes.

I'm pretty sure that you would love it! It's a great piece of gear and most definitely the best modeler I've played (for my tastes of course!)

I've never heard any Aliasing but then again I've never really looked for it either. If there was a problem, it seems as if they fixed it.

 

[Man With Gas]

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[kiff]

ok yea yea, but will it pick up mexican radio stations like my mark4 and jcm800?

 

[lester]

Aliasing test per Cliff - Anyone can easily perform the same test. Turn off everything but the amplifier section of the "stack" (not necessary but makes it easier to see the tones as a cabinet IR has many peaks and notches). Inject a sine wave. Measure the output on a spectrum analyzer and watch what happens when you go beyond 11 kHz.

 

[Man With Gas]

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[lester]

Well, Kemper's also said in an interview -

9. Can you talk about what’s under the hood (processors, speeds, sampling rate, A/D conversion etc)?

The main DSP is a Freescale DSP (formerly Motorola) running at an equivalent of 400 MHz speed. The code consists of tens of thousands of lines of pure assembler code. The global sampling rate is 44.1 kHz, while the internal sampling rate is partially much higher. The algorithm for the tube simulation runs on more than 700 kHz sampling rate (!).


and Cliff says that is bullshit. FTR

 

[Man With Gas]

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[tfridgen]

Well, Kemper's also said in an interview -

9. Can you talk about what’s under the hood (processors, speeds, sampling rate, A/D conversion etc)?

The main DSP is a Freescale DSP (formerly Motorola) running at an equivalent of 400 MHz speed. The code consists of tens of thousands of lines of pure assembler code. The global sampling rate is 44.1 kHz, while the internal sampling rate is partially much higher. The algorithm for the tube simulation runs on more than 700 kHz sampling rate (!).


and Cliff says that is bullshit. FTR

Can't find the thread but that 11 kHz nonsense has been debunked by a couple users on the Kemper forum and was yet another attempt by Quiff to sully the Kemper name. He is afraid.....very afraid.

 

[dfrattaroli]

That's a nice endorsement but none of us have MW's ears. Most guys couldn't tell the difference between a POD or God in a mix.

 

[Rogue]

Well, Kemper's also said in an interview -

9. Can you talk about what’s under the hood (processors, speeds, sampling rate, A/D conversion etc)?

The main DSP is a Freescale DSP (formerly Motorola) running at an equivalent of 400 MHz speed. The code consists of tens of thousands of lines of pure assembler code. The global sampling rate is 44.1 kHz, while the internal sampling rate is partially much higher. The algorithm for the tube simulation runs on more than 700 kHz sampling rate (!).


and Cliff says that is bullshit. FTR

Cliff's just pissed off he didn't realize 11 khz was the secret to sounding better.

 

[shred4Him]

As someone on the outside, and not having owned either, I am leaning towards the Kemper over the Axe for one simple reason: I hate tweaking. I would rather turn a few knobs and get what I want than dig through layers of menus. I have heard time and time again that the Kemper is easier to get a good sound quickly. The Axe guys can probably get a good sound very quickly as well, but you have to put in the time to learn the unit before you get there. I am lazy. I need lazy man's gear. The Kemper will probably be the direction I go.

 

[lester]

Well, Kemper's also said in an interview -

9. Can you talk about what’s under the hood (processors, speeds, sampling rate, A/D conversion etc)?

The main DSP is a Freescale DSP (formerly Motorola) running at an equivalent of 400 MHz speed. The code consists of tens of thousands of lines of pure assembler code. The global sampling rate is 44.1 kHz, while the internal sampling rate is partially much higher. The algorithm for the tube simulation runs on more than 700 kHz sampling rate (!).


and Cliff says that is bullshit. FTR

Cliff's just pissed off he didn't realize 11 khz was the secret to sounding better.

 

[rupe]

Well, Kemper's also said in an interview -

9. Can you talk about what’s under the hood (processors, speeds, sampling rate, A/D conversion etc)?

The main DSP is a Freescale DSP (formerly Motorola) running at an equivalent of 400 MHz speed. The code consists of tens of thousands of lines of pure assembler code. The global sampling rate is 44.1 kHz, while the internal sampling rate is partially much higher. The algorithm for the tube simulation runs on more than 700 kHz sampling rate (!).


and Cliff says that is bullshit. FTR

As I noted earlier...listening with your eyes. So how does all that jargon equate to how it sounds in the room? What was your experience when you played one?

 

[lester]

I like the Kemper..and I like the Axe...they're both a couple of thieving bastards... I can relate.

 

[alxdgr8]

Well, Kemper's also said in an interview -

9. Can you talk about what’s under the hood (processors, speeds, sampling rate, A/D conversion etc)?

The main DSP is a Freescale DSP (formerly Motorola) running at an equivalent of 400 MHz speed. The code consists of tens of thousands of lines of pure assembler code. The global sampling rate is 44.1 kHz, while the internal sampling rate is partially much higher. The algorithm for the tube simulation runs on more than 700 kHz sampling rate (!).


and Cliff says that is bullshit. FTR

Two things he could be referencing with the 700kHz sampling rate (which sounds like a marketing twist on specifications
1.) Oversampling with a sigma-delta ADC
2.) Algorithms for circuit simulation don't have to globally run at audio sampling (they could have inputs running to/from elements of the simulation at audio sampling)

Like I said, it's a marketing twist. It's comparing apples to oranges, but not necessarily bullshit.
Gotta love Cliff's PR...

 

[The Hoff]

I'm also waiting for a rack version. It's tough not to take the plunge now but, I'm going to hold off.

 

[Anonymous]

I'll buy the Kemper when I can buy the Wagener multi-amp mix profiles to go with it!

Steve

 

[strungup]

I'm waiting for the next generation of profiling devices. I want something that clips on and profiles the sounds in my head. I also want the ability to make adjusents and patch changes mid song just by thinking about it.

 

[Audioholic]

I'll buy the Kemper when I can buy the Wagener multi-amp mix profiles to go with it!

Steve

I totally see Kemper teaming up with top producers to either freely release, or sell at a very small cost, artist and producer profiles. Just like How I have paid for Toontracks producer kits etc, it would bother me nothing to drop a little coin for the producers work. Already kemper teamed up with amp factory and released 25 FREE profiles that they released together. Keith Marrow posted a profile a long time ago and it is Killer.