VHT GP-3 preamp with Herbert's power section

[diezelboy]

Has anyone tried it? How does it sound compared to a Pitbull?
One of the threads here was describing how you can hook up an external preamp to the power section of the Herbert through the serial loop in a MIDI switchable fashion. Apparently the cool thing is that you can go back and forth between the external preamp and the Herbert's preamp. Is this a safe operation?
Thanks

 

[duesentrieb]

Sure, Just hook the preamp out to the switchable return and adjust the preamp's level.

One thing to think about though: You need to route your input too (not to loose signal strenght), so either use a buffer (i.e. a stereo pedal - of course not on, just in - preferred true - bypass mode) or a pedal with two outputs.

 

[thegame]

Sure, Just hook the preamp out to the switchable return and adjust the preamp's level.

One thing to think about though: You need to route your input too (not to loose signal strenght), so either use a buffer (i.e. a stereo pedal - of course not on, just in - preferred true - bypass mode) or a pedal with two outputs.

The head (being used as a power amp) needs to have a cord inserted in the front input ? Does that apply to all tube heads when being used like this ?

 

[JohnRageOn]

Hahaha I've tried this in the past but with the VH-4's power section. Although the preamp was VHT, it was 'Diezelised' by the transformers. As far as I remember the outcome was like a rawer VH-4 (but a bit thinner sounding) rather than a VHT CLX or Classic.
The closer match to VH-4's preamp was an experiment we did with Alex (Flouros) when we put a Soldano X-99. At some point we couldn't distinguish the differences but again the preamp was sounding a bit thinner compared to the original preamp section.

 

[JohnRageOn]

Sure, Just hook the preamp out to the switchable return and adjust the preamp's level.

One thing to think about though: You need to route your input too (not to loose signal strenght), so either use a buffer (i.e. a stereo pedal - of course not on, just in - preferred true - bypass mode) or a pedal with two outputs.

He can use the amp's thru

 

[duesentrieb]

Sure, Just hook the preamp out to the switchable return and adjust the preamp's level.

One thing to think about though: You need to route your input too (not to loose signal strenght), so either use a buffer (i.e. a stereo pedal - of course not on, just in - preferred true - bypass mode) or a pedal with two outputs.

The head (being used as a power amp) needs to have a cord inserted in the front input ? Does that apply to all tube heads when being used like this ?

No, but if you are going to switch between pre and amp-pre, you need some kind of solution which buffers the signal, or you will lose too much signal if you simply use an Y-adaptor, you know . . .

 

[duesentrieb]

Sure, Just hook the preamp out to the switchable return and adjust the preamp's level.

One thing to think about though: You need to route your input too (not to loose signal strenght), so either use a buffer (i.e. a stereo pedal - of course not on, just in - preferred true - bypass mode) or a pedal with two outputs.

He can use the amp's thru

Its more for tuners AFAIK. Not a "full" signal.

I can be wrong though . . .

 

[JohnRageOn]

Sure, Just hook the preamp out to the switchable return and adjust the preamp's level.

One thing to think about though: You need to route your input too (not to loose signal strenght), so either use a buffer (i.e. a stereo pedal - of course not on, just in - preferred true - bypass mode) or a pedal with two outputs.

He can use the amp's thru

Its more for tuners AFAIK. Not a "full" signal.

I can be wrong though . . .

'Thru' splits the signal in parallel with the amp's input and it's a high impedance signal (at least in VH4). I believe the same applies to Herbert.

 

[duesentrieb]

Cool, thanks John.

 

[Jan-Willem]

I also have a question regarding the VHT GP-3 preamp and a Herbert.

Not so long ago I bought a Diezel Herbert and I can say i'm very happy with it but I also make my distortion sound a bit brighter without losing the booming sound of the Herbert. So I thought if I could use a pre amp and run this through the parallel section of the Herbert and also at the same time run the pre amp of the Herbert (so the power amp of the Herbert gets two signals: one from a external pre amp and an other from the Herberts own pre amp) (ofcourse will the guitar signal be splitted so that every pre amp get the original guitarsignal).

My question is, is this possible? I asked in a local guitarstore the same question and they thought it would be possible, but before I going to blow stuff up I thought I'm going to ask you guys for your opinion.

(btw does some one knows how you get the life-time warrenty (how to register) for your Diezel Herbert if you live in the Netherlands?)

Thanks

 

[TOOL_5150]

I have a GP-3 and a Herbert - ill try it tomarrow and let you know!

~Matt

 

[duesentrieb]

I also have a question regarding the VHT GP-3 preamp and a Herbert.

Not so long ago I bought a Diezel Herbert and I can say i'm very happy with it but I also make my distortion sound a bit brighter without losing the booming sound of the Herbert. So I thought if I could use a pre amp and run this through the parallel section of the Herbert and also at the same time run the pre amp of the Herbert (so the power amp of the Herbert gets two signals: one from a external pre amp and an other from the Herberts own pre amp) (ofcourse will the guitar signal be splitted so that every pre amp get the original guitarsignal).

My question is, is this possible? I asked in a local guitarstore the same question and they thought it would be possible, but before I going to blow stuff up I thought I'm going to ask you guys for your opinion.

(btw does some one knows how you get the life-time warrenty (how to register) for your Diezel Herbert if you live in the Netherlands?)

Thanks

a) you need a splitter. Serial send ---> splitter 1) original 2) preamp --> splitter --> return.

b) keep the original receipt, there isn't a document or whatever. Not in the Netherlands, not in Moffenland

Welcome btw.

 

[Jan-Willem]

a) you need a splitter. Serial send ---> splitter 1) original 2) preamp --> splitter --> return.

b) keep the original receipt, there isn't a document or whatever. Not in the Netherlands, not in Moffenland

Welcome btw.

Thanks, I will keep the receipt and I hope that I will never have to use it .

What kind of splitter should I use? And why must the cable return to the splitter instead of go straith in to the return of the Herbert?
Do you think that it will sound good two pre-amps set to high distortion (channel 3) through one Diezel Herbert power amp? Or do you think it will distort and will make a lot of noise?

I'm curieus to the results of TOOL_5150 .

 

[diezelboy]

Hey
Yea let me know how the GP3 sounds through the Herbie's power section
Thanks