What am i doing wrong? Stereo setup with two amps

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romanianreaper said:
See that is exactly what I thought. It was definitely loud for the volume being at zero, lol.

I need to mess with all if the things you mentioned above. I wanted to use the stereo setup with one 5150-III and an Orange, but I may stick to the two 5150-III heads or do Orange dry and the two heads.
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If you've got the three amps and the SDE you might as well find a way to do W/D/W. That'd be my goal anyway lol.

I know the pedal lets you control both the dry and wet signal per delay from 0-100%. You should be able to use that to tame your 5150 head with some tweaking. Otherwise I would use a stereo splitter to keep your Orange and 5150III isolated.
 
I am a "plug it in and dont tinker type of effect user".
So, knowing that, is there a way in the EVH pedal to set the wet % differently to the left, or right?

EVH Stealth 6L6 is the dry (main amp)
Then left is a 20th Shiva.
Right is a Diezel Herbert

The EVH Stealth and Shiva are very volume dominate.
Where as the Herbert Master is cranked up over 12:00 to get some sort of balance.

The one thing that kinda pissed me off and was not expecting is that the "main" amp is feeding the other 2
I thought that each amp would be able to be used with all EQ and volume funtions.

Not going to run out and buy two power amps,but it kinda seems foolish that the wet amps are just a power source.

This set up is using the wet amps as a power source .
Is what it is I guess.

So. Once again,can you get in the Parameters on the pedal to set what % goes to the left or right?

This setup is massive sounding none the less.
 
John4021 said:
I am a "plug it in and dont tinker type of effect user".
So, knowing that, is there a way in the EVH pedal to set the wet % differently to the left, or right?

EVH Stealth 6L6 is the dry (main amp)
Then left is a 20th Shiva.
Right is a Diezel Herbert

The EVH Stealth and Shiva are very volume dominate.
Where as the Herbert Master is cranked up over 12:00 to get some sort of balance.

The one thing that kinda pissed me off and was not expecting is that the "main" amp is feeding the other 2
I thought that each amp would be able to be used with all EQ and volume funtions.

Not going to run out and buy two power amps,but it kinda seems foolish that the wet amps are just a power source.

This set up is using the wet amps as a power source .
Is what it is I guess.

So. Once again,can you get in the Parameters on the pedal to set what % goes to the left or right?

This setup is massive sounding none the less.
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If you're only using the amp as a power source, then the eq won't be used since it's before the loop/power stage. A Mesa Mark though, can still use it's EQ which is fun.

You don't need 2 power amps, just a power amp with 2 separate output sections. Stereo power amp. I picked up a super cheap Peavey 60/60; you can find one or the 50/50 for 400 bucks from time to time. By slaving the slaved amp's tone is then sent to the power amp and that is the tone you'll get out of any amp you use whether it's a VH4 or a power amp only like a S400, 2150 etc.

Not sure about the EVH pedal; if it's a real copy of a 3000(I have 2 originals) then you should be able to adjust each side any way you want if it's a real repro.
Good luck man!
 
Thanks Xrated,

I can use the Depth and Presence controls on the wet amps...Whooopadeedoo. :LOL:

I do have a Mesa 295 in a rack. Never thought of the left and right outs on it...duh:confused:
 
John4021 said:
I am a "plug it in and dont tinker type of effect user".
So, knowing that, is there a way in the EVH pedal to set the wet % differently to the left, or right?

EVH Stealth 6L6 is the dry (main amp)
Then left is a 20th Shiva.
Right is a Diezel Herbert

The EVH Stealth and Shiva are very volume dominate.
Where as the Herbert Master is cranked up over 12:00 to get some sort of balance.

The one thing that kinda pissed me off and was not expecting is that the "main" amp is feeding the other 2
I thought that each amp would be able to be used with all EQ and volume funtions.

Not going to run out and buy two power amps,but it kinda seems foolish that the wet amps are just a power source.

This set up is using the wet amps as a power source .
Is what it is I guess.

So. Once again,can you get in the Parameters on the pedal to set what % goes to the left or right?

This setup is massive sounding none the less.
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On the SDE pedal you can control both the mix and the overall output of each delay. If this isn't enough, an LS-2 is an easy way to balance two channels with 15db of boost/cut per channel.

The EVH version has the added advantage of having a dry (center) output, so you can route the loop send into the pedal and split it into three lines for W/D/W. This is designed with EVH amps in mind, because they are designed for slaving.

If you want full use of all three amps you're barking up the wrong tree by slaving, that's specifically to have one amp control others. What you're looking for is a three-way splitter to go into the three inputs.
 
GreatRedDragon said:
The EVH version has the added advantage of having a dry (center) output, so you can route the loop send into the pedal and split it into three lines for W/D/W. This is designed with EVH amps in mind, because they are designed for slaving.
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Is that a Parameter change inside the pedal or do I need to re-route the cables
 
I wish BOSS did an idiot part of their manuals that is just barebones and then get into details in later pages.

Btw, I plugged the 5150-III back in and the sound was there again so I may just keep the two EVH 5150-III heads in stereo for home use and just not use the Orange for that.
 
GOHOINC said:
Little black amp box, just a single knob volume box.

https://a.co/d/4qRrSJY
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I have something similar to give my Splawn a MV

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John4021 said:
Is that a Parameter change inside the pedal or do I need to re-route the cables
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So the SDE-3000EVH's rear panel has two input jacks, three output jacks and a send. The inputs can be set up as stereo left/right inputs or you can use it as a mono input with a mono send/return loop. The outputs can be configured as left/right for standard stereo or left/center/right for W/D/W. You can control the routing through parameters but you'll likely need to move some cables around just by the nature of it - I only own the standard model with stereo in/out so I can't say for sure, but on the standard model you can select from a variety of series/parallel mono/stereo options.

The way it's intended to be use for W/D/W is, you plug your guitar straight into the input. From the send you go to the input of the main amp. From the loop send of the amp you go to the loop return of the pedal. You can choose to ground lift either the send or return if need be. This loop works in conjunction with a built in noise gate. From the output section of the pedal, center goes to the loop return of the main amp. Left and right go to the loop returns of the left and right amps. If they're 5150s, or designed in the same way, you can control all three amps off one head. The pedal has an analog dry-through mode that fights phase issues. It also comes with three ground lift cable adapters if you get any buzz from a ground loop. The pedal has eight EVH presets (taken from Eddie's own units). The first four are designed for wet/dry/wet. The last four are the same settings adapted to basic stereo.

So with this one pedal you get all of the routing taken care of, rather than Eddie's method of running the speaker output of his head through a line out box, splitting that line-out signal into stereo with the PCM70, running those two lines into two SDE-3000s, and then running into two solid-state power amps and out into his left and right 4x12 cabs (his dry signal just passes through the line-out box and into his cabinet).
 
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