What amp has Best Plexi Sound (High Gain Head)

[skoora]

Steve,

The clips sound really good. I bet it freakin rocks when you put the juice to it. I can't recall, but are going to build them, produce kits, or both?

Schaf

Thanks man! I'm going to do fully built amps and kits.

I have done some re-design of the layout and switching that will make the amp far easier to build and require far less relay switching circuitry without compromising anything I wanted in the amp. The new design will have only 3 relays in the amp and none in the footswitch (my current design has 6 relays in the amp and 4 latching relays in the foot switch!!!) You live and learn...

New schems are done - should have the new layout designed, and the V 2.0 amp built and tested by the end of the year, going into production in 2011... Doing this as a side business makes things take much longer, but whaddaya gonna do?

Steve

will you have a booth at NAMM in January?

That's funny... really...

Steve

Isn't a small booth at least 10K?

Anyway... your clip sounds awesome...but would you say the Rod portion can do Ride The Lightning/MOP heavy or Prong Cleansing type heavy where you get that sick djunk. The clip sounds like I could get those approximate sounds with the right pedal in front of my metro, but plexi's don't get that fatness in the bass and low mids a dedicated heavy circuit can get. The plexi portion sounded impressive too with the master that low.

 

[Anonymous]

Isn't a small booth at least 10K?

I'd guess around twice that actually...

Anyway... your clip sounds awesome...

Thanks - glad you liked it.

but would you say the Rod portion can do Ride The Lightning/MOP heavy or Prong Cleansing type heavy where you get that sick djunk.

Ride The Lightning/MOP - I'd say for sure. Don't know Prong...

The clip sounds like I could get those approximate sounds with the right pedal in front of my metro, but plexi's don't get that fatness in the bass and low mids a dedicated heavy circuit can get.

Personally, I don't know what pedal you would put in front of a metro super lead clone that would provide as much gain (with the same gain character) as my Rod channel, which adds a tube gain stage, but hey, maybe you can. My amp gets plenty heavy in the Rod mode, especially with the other master clicked in with the saturation engaged - I'm not using anywhere near all the gain in any of the clips...

The plexi portion sounded impressive too with the master that low.

Cool - glad ya dug it...

Steve

 

[myles]

Guys what do you guys think is the best high gain head for the EVH brown plexi sound.
It has to be a high gain head, be it a Marsha, Custom Audio, Bogner or whatever....

A plexi or non-master volume Marshall is not a high gain head by today's standards. If you want that type of sound get that type of amp. Metropoulis is my favorite if you do not go for an original.

Maybe I don't understand what you are asking. I feel like you are asking ... what four door sedan can take eight people with luggage to the airport? I'd reply in the same way, suggesting a van rather than a four door sedan. One is not better than the other, they are just different.

Perhaps you are asking .... of these sorts of amps in the list, which one will not color the tone and feel as far offbase from a non-master Marshall as others in the list will?

 

[skoora]

Isn't a small booth at least 10K?

I'd guess around twice that actually...

Anyway... your clip sounds awesome...

Thanks - glad you liked it.

but would you say the Rod portion can do Ride The Lightning/MOP heavy or Prong Cleansing type heavy where you get that sick djunk.

Ride The Lightning/MOP - I'd say for sure. Don't know Prong...

The clip sounds like I could get those approximate sounds with the right pedal in front of my metro, but plexi's don't get that fatness in the bass and low mids a dedicated heavy circuit can get.

Personally, I don't know what pedal you would put in front of a metro super lead clone that would provide as much gain (with the same gain character) as my Rod channel, which adds a tube gain stage, but hey, maybe you can. My amp gets plenty heavy in the Rod mode, especially with the other master clicked in with the saturation engaged - I'm not using anywhere near all the gain in any of the clips...

The plexi portion sounded impressive too with the master that low.

Cool - glad ya dug it...

Steve

I'm looking forward to hearing some mic'd clips. It sounds really promising. Are you eventually going to offer one with separate EQ's for plex and rod?

 

[Anonymous]

Isn't a small booth at least 10K?

I'd guess around twice that actually...

Anyway... your clip sounds awesome...

Thanks - glad you liked it.

but would you say the Rod portion can do Ride The Lightning/MOP heavy or Prong Cleansing type heavy where you get that sick djunk.

Ride The Lightning/MOP - I'd say for sure. Don't know Prong...

The clip sounds like I could get those approximate sounds with the right pedal in front of my metro, but plexi's don't get that fatness in the bass and low mids a dedicated heavy circuit can get.

Personally, I don't know what pedal you would put in front of a metro super lead clone that would provide as much gain (with the same gain character) as my Rod channel, which adds a tube gain stage, but hey, maybe you can. My amp gets plenty heavy in the Rod mode, especially with the other master clicked in with the saturation engaged - I'm not using anywhere near all the gain in any of the clips...

The plexi portion sounded impressive too with the master that low.

Cool - glad ya dug it...

Steve

I'm looking forward to hearing some mic'd clips. It sounds really promising. Are you eventually going to offer one with separate EQ's for plex and rod?

Yes, I forgot to mention - the new design has separate tone controls for the Plex and Rod channels...

Steve

 

[tweed]

Isn't a small booth at least 10K?

I'd guess around twice that actually...


Steve

It was around 5k downstairs last time I checked, but that was a while ago. You get a booth I'll show up with the Vodka

 

[Random Hero]

Guys what do you guys think is the best high gain head for the EVH brown plexi sound.
It has to be a high gain head, be it a Marsha, Custom Audio, Bogner or whatever....

A plexi or non-master volume Marshall is not a high gain head by today's standards. If you want that type of sound get that type of amp. Metropoulis is my favorite if you do not go for an original.

Maybe I don't understand what you are asking. I feel like you are asking ... what four door sedan can take eight people with luggage to the airport? I'd reply in the same way, suggesting a van rather than a four door sedan. One is not better than the other, they are just different.

Perhaps you are asking .... of these sorts of amps in the list, which one will not color the tone and feel as far offbase from a non-master Marshall as others in the list will?

This. "High Gain Plexi" doesn't really make sense to me.

 

[Nico]

Guys what do you guys think is the best high gain head for the EVH brown plexi sound.
It has to be a high gain head, be it a Marsha, Custom Audio, Bogner or whatever....

A plexi or non-master volume Marshall is not a high gain head by today's standards. If you want that type of sound get that type of amp. Metropoulis is my favorite if you do not go for an original.

Maybe I don't understand what you are asking. I feel like you are asking ... what four door sedan can take eight people with luggage to the airport? I'd reply in the same way, suggesting a van rather than a four door sedan. One is not better than the other, they are just different.

Perhaps you are asking .... of these sorts of amps in the list, which one will not color the tone and feel as far offbase from a non-master Marshall as others in the list will?

This. "High Gain Plexi" doesn't really make sense to me.

That is what John Suhr is actually working for in his new designed PT-100. It comes directly from Pete Thorn himself in this thread...

If it is possible or not... time will tell.

 

[thegame]

Maybe not what the OP had in mind but I've always wanted to find a high gain, metal head that had a channel or setting that nailed the stock plexi tone/response. Nothing's ever come close.

I agree with your statement 100%

Yeah it's not gonna happen. Clean and high gain....pretty easy. Clean and crunch....pretty easy. Crunch and high gain....have not seen it yet and really don't think it can co exist in one amp.

Larry Dino 939. British Crunch channel = open, shimmering plexi bark. This mode alone outdoes my Wizard in authentic British punch. Scream channel = ultra focussed Metal gain voicing. Then the amp has 3 other equally incredible tones.

Put it this way, you'd need a Wizard Vintage classic, MC, and Metal to approximate (poorly) 3 of the Dino's 5 tones. Then the Dino's price starts to make sense. You know how much I love the Wizard stuff, but this is far beyond it.
There's one on ebay right now (from Germany) !

 

[Nico]

Maybe not what the OP had in mind but I've always wanted to find a high gain, metal head that had a channel or setting that nailed the stock plexi tone/response. Nothing's ever come close.

I agree with your statement 100%

Yeah it's not gonna happen. Clean and high gain....pretty easy. Clean and crunch....pretty easy. Crunch and high gain....have not seen it yet and really don't think it can co exist in one amp.

Larry Dino 939. British Crunch channel = open, shimmering plexi bark. This mode alone outdoes my Wizard in authentic British punch. Scream channel = ultra focussed Metal gain voicing. Then the amp has 3 other equally incredible tones.

Put it this way, you'd need a Wizard Vintage classic, MC, and Metal to approximate (poorly) 3 of the Dino's 5 tones. Then the Dino's price starts to make sense. You know how much I love the Wizard stuff, but this is far beyond it.
There's one on ebay right now (from Germany) !

Could you tell us a little more about these amp makers please!?

 

[thegame]

Maybe not what the OP had in mind but I've always wanted to find a high gain, metal head that had a channel or setting that nailed the stock plexi tone/response. Nothing's ever come close.

I agree with your statement 100%

Yeah it's not gonna happen. Clean and high gain....pretty easy. Clean and crunch....pretty easy. Crunch and high gain....have not seen it yet and really don't think it can co exist in one amp.

Larry Dino 939. British Crunch channel = open, shimmering plexi bark. This mode alone outdoes my Wizard in authentic British punch. Scream channel = ultra focussed Metal gain voicing. Then the amp has 3 other equally incredible tones.

Put it this way, you'd need a Wizard Vintage classic, MC, and Metal to approximate (poorly) 3 of the Dino's 5 tones. Then the Dino's price starts to make sense. You know how much I love the Wizard stuff, but this is far beyond it.
There's one on ebay right now (from Germany) !

Could you tell us a little more about these amp makers please!?

http://www.larry-amplification.de/

 

[WizardSouth-JP]

with all the new modded Marshall amps out there now (past 2 years: Friedman, Bogner, Bray, Metro) I wonder if there's more to add to this dinosaur thread.
My Splawn Pro Stock sure sounds awesome with 6550 tubes, has a great Plexi thwack to the attack. Reminds me of an older Marshall feel but with way more gain. Roccaforte is similar ballpark with looser lows unless boosted. Helios is TBD

 

[nitro]

Rockstahs Mod 5

 

[WizardSouth-JP]

is he still modding amps? haven't heard much if Mark was still doing his thing

 

[nitro]

Mark passed away I few years back RIP

 

[WizardSouth-JP]

dang - I didn't know that, sorry to hear. he was talented for sure. the clips of his amps are outrageously good

 

[Fragglerick]

Guys what do you guys think is the best high gain head for the EVH brown plexi sound.
It has to be a high gain head, be it a Marsha, Custom Audio, Bogner or whatever....

Splawn Quickrod.

 

[fuzzyguitars]

Metroplex

 

[anomaly]

Why do people like that sound? it's so dated and unoriginal these days.

 

[anomaly]

God, this board is FULL of 50 year old EVH wannabees stuck in the 80's. Brown sound this, plexi that... Grow up people! Cut your mullets!