What Components Make An Amp Cut?

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I have 3 types of modded Marshall amps. All have the high Gain Marshall DNA, but I’m curious what components or mojo matter that make some amps cut more than others? ...Besides turning up the mids.
 
It is just the mids. What makes you think it’s something else?
 
Screeching high mids that rip off your head and deafen your ears.
 
Midrange, simple as that.

You need mids to "cut live" because otherwise, those midrange frequencies are absorbed by all the people that make up the audience. So you boost the mids so you can hear more of the actual notes being made on your guitar, bass etc.

The EQ is basically a volume control for specific frequencies, or specific ranges of frequencies. It's like making particular strings or points on the fretboard sound louder, as well as those harmonics that are resonating. If you turn up certain midrange frequencies, you'll hear more of the harmonics. If you turn up other midrange frequencies, you hear more of the fundamental frequencies of the notes.

I think that's why its such a tricky balance, hence all the fuss with mid-scooping and mid-boosting and "cutting live" etc. If the harmonics sound louder, it sounds more distorted, but eventually at the expense of not hearing the original note (therefore becomes fuzzy and all mush). If you go the other way, it sounds too "clean" and maybe muddy, like there's no character or edge to the notes.

I made a chart once of all of the frequencies of each note for a 24 scale fretboard. But I think off the top of my head that the low E open string is 82 Hz.
 
Marshall’s magical mids are around 6k. When you push that you’ll be heard.
 
I disagree ,I use to run the mids high when I played 3 piece and it worked great . Then I got in a 5 piece band and my guitar got lost in the mix , Cut the mids and boosted the treble and i can be heard again .

Granted there is a fine line in upper mids and treble ,I also have to keep enough mids not to let it become harsh and shrill
 
splatter":w2edlnzd said:
I disagree ,I use to run the mids high when I played 3 piece and it worked great . Then I got in a 5 piece band and my guitar got lost in the mix , Cut the mids and boosted the treble and i can be heard again .

Granted there is a fine line in upper mids and treble ,I also have to keep enough mids not to let it become harsh and shrill
Probably because there was someone else in the band stomping on the same frequency. In that case, yes you have to move over
 
splatter":3qmsn62s said:
I disagree ,I use to run the mids high when I played 3 piece and it worked great . Then I got in a 5 piece band and my guitar got lost in the mix , Cut the mids and boosted the treble and i can be heard again .

Granted there is a fine line in upper mids and treble ,I also have to keep enough mids not to let it become harsh and shrill
treble is as important as mids for cutting through, but also treble knobs adjust some mids. the knobs to a TMB tonestack don't necessarily only control treble middles and bass.
 
LP Freak":sxofd0fw said:
Marshall’s magical mids are around 6k. When you push that you’ll be heard.

I thought it was 600Hz for the old Plexi amp heads, and maybe 500Hz for the JCM 800 50 watt head?

And isn't the Presence knob centred on 3 kiloHertz?
 
Find what you like on the amp and let the sound guy give you a bump in the mids if you are having mix issues out front.
 
Depend what mix you need to cut. 2 guitars? Keyboards? Different bass and drums.
 
Junk Yard Dog":2hq9z7oq said:
I have 3 types of modded Marshall amps. All have the high Gain Marshall DNA, but I’m curious what components or mojo matter that make some amps cut more than others? ...Besides turning up the mids.

Are you asking about the circuit components (caps, resistors, tubes, etc) ?
 
SM57 has that nasty 6-7KHz spike...

The marshall mid knob is centred at around 700Hz for the 2203/2204.. slightly higher for the older models.
 
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