What contributes most to Eric Johnson's tone?

[dstroud]

Timmons tone mixed with Gibbons and the aggression of old EVH would be ideal to me....if that's possible.

Now you're speaking my language!!!

yeah, that I need to hear!

 

[van hellion]

We will have to agree to disagree here. I have always been able to separate "TONE" from "Technique"

Not to rehash the whole classic argument all over again, but I think the mistake is trying to separate it in the first place. Gear, technique, style - it is all interconnected.

I wish it was all in the gear. Especially since I just bought an EJ strat lol...

yep, and yeah it is just an old arguement buti think the source of the"tone" is the pick into string i think the gear changes that yes BUT 2 great examples of similar tones through tons of different amps are allan holdsworth and shawn lane, hell its hard for me to tell which rigs they are using because the sounds are so similar on every rig they play, and im a HUGE fan of both. its really hard because of your evh example being valid i feel my holdsworth/lane example is just as valid.
peace
A Wood

 

[70strathead]

Timmons tone mixed with Gibbons and the aggression of old EVH would be ideal to me....if that's possible.

Now you're speaking my language!!!

not many people mention Billy Gibbons, he's influenced more guitarists than he gets credit for. I love that guy!!

 

[Telephant]

Most of my licks are either Gibbons or Hendrix rip offs. Im such an unoriginal twat.

 

[Gainfreak]

We will have to agree to disagree here. I have always been able to separate "TONE" from "Technique"

Not to rehash the whole classic argument all over again, but I think the mistake is trying to separate it in the first place. Gear, technique, style - it is all interconnected.

I wish it was all in the gear. Especially since I just bought an EJ strat lol...

yep, and yeah it is just an old arguement buti think the source of the"tone" is the pick into string i think the gear changes that yes BUT 2 great examples of similar tones through tons of different amps are allan holdsworth and shawn lane, hell its hard for me to tell which rigs they are using because the sounds are so similar on every rig they play, and im a HUGE fan of both. its really hard because of your evh example being valid i feel my holdsworth/lane example is just as valid.
peace
A Wood

Well I think that is why its such an old arguement because both statements are true. Gear and a players technique will have an affect on tone!
With that said, I can see how Holdworth and Lane would get similar tones no matter what they plug into but it would be a lenghty discussion

All the best!!
~R~

 

[Gainfreak]

Timmons tone mixed with Gibbons and the aggression of old EVH would be ideal to me....if that's possible.

Now you're speaking my language!!!

not many people mention Billy Gibbons, he's influenced more guitarists than he gets credit for. I love that guy!!

This describes Gibbons playing to a "T"

 

[van hellion]

We will have to agree to disagree here. I have always been able to separate "TONE" from "Technique"

Not to rehash the whole classic argument all over again, but I think the mistake is trying to separate it in the first place. Gear, technique, style - it is all interconnected.

I wish it was all in the gear. Especially since I just bought an EJ strat lol...

yep, and yeah it is just an old arguement buti think the source of the"tone" is the pick into string i think the gear changes that yes BUT 2 great examples of similar tones through tons of different amps are allan holdsworth and shawn lane, hell its hard for me to tell which rigs they are using because the sounds are so similar on every rig they play, and im a HUGE fan of both. its really hard because of your evh example being valid i feel my holdsworth/lane example is just as valid.
peace
A Wood

Well I think that is why its such an old arguement because both statements are true. Gear and a players technique will have an affect on tone!
With that said, I can see how Holdworth and Lane would get similar tones no matter what they plug into but it would be a lenghty discussion

All the best!!
~R~[/quote]

btw i meant they each get their own tones throughout their individual careers and it stays the same even without the same rig. i didnt mean to imply they get simlilar tones to each other (even though they do) sorry bout the confusion.

peace
A Wood

 

[Gainfreak]

btw i meant they each get their own tones throughout their individual careers and it stays the same even without the same rig. i didnt mean to imply they get simlilar tones to each other (even though they do) sorry bout the confusion.

peace
A Wood

Nope, No confusion!! I totally understood what you were saying!!

 

[amiller]

His sound is in his fingers AND equipment. Think about it...look at how picky the guy is about equipment. If his sound was just in his fingers why would he bother about equipment. It's the sum of the parts.

 

[van hellion]

His sound is in his fingers AND equipment. Think about it...look at how picky the guy is about equipment. If his sound was just in his fingers why would he bother about equipment. It's the sum of the parts.

absolutely...but we all like to argue at what the most important factor is

peace
A Wood

 

[Gainfreak]

His sound is in his fingers AND equipment. Think about it...look at how picky the guy is about equipment. If his sound was just in his fingers why would he bother about equipment. It's the sum of the parts.

absolutely...but we all like to argue at what the most important factor is

peace
A Wood

I think musicians in general like to argue

 

[nbarts]

his hands.

peace
A Wood

edit, I see you think that's what counts "most", but don't you think if we both hit an open a chord or even an open low e string (like the beginning of Cliffs of Dover), it would sound pretty close if we were playing through his rig?

depends, i really believe A TON of our own tones comes from how we come in on the strings with the picking hand. have the same acoustic guitar played by 5 different players and its gonna sound tonally extremely different. i believe at least 70 percent of our tone is in the picking hand attack/angle whatever.

peace
A Wood

Amen!

 

[dstroud]

His sound is in his fingers AND equipment. Think about it...look at how picky the guy is about equipment. If his sound was just in his fingers why would he bother about equipment. It's the sum of the parts.

absolutely...but we all like to argue at what the most important factor is

peace
A Wood

I think musicians in general like to argue

No, I don't think so

 

[Gainfreak]

No, I don't think so

No really ....It's true

 

[van hellion]

what have i done

peace
A Wood

 

[amiller]

It's always funny to me how, on one hand, someone will argue that tone is in the fingers and turn right around and say I liked so and so's tone on his CD "A" but I thought his tone sucked on CD "B." What happened, he get a new set of fingers?

 

[Gainfreak]

It's always funny to me how, on one hand, someone will argue that tone is in the fingers and turn right around and say I liked so and so's tone on his CD "A" but I thought his tone sucked on CD "B." What happened, he get a new set of fingers?

 

[Greazygeo]

It's always funny to me how, on one hand, someone will argue that tone is in the fingers and turn right around and say I liked so and so's tone on his CD "A" but I thought his tone sucked on CD "B." What happened, he get a new set of fingers?

No....I'd think that would be in the recording of it...

 

[van hellion]

It's always funny to me how, on one hand, someone will argue that tone is in the fingers and turn right around and say I liked so and so's tone on his CD "A" but I thought his tone sucked on CD "B." What happened, he get a new set of fingers?

No....I'd think that would be in the recording of it...

this is how i see it too, and for that matter this part of the equation is often overlooked and is so important when it comes to what is actually heard on an album.

peace
A Wood

 

[amiller]

It's always funny to me how, on one hand, someone will argue that tone is in the fingers and turn right around and say I liked so and so's tone on his CD "A" but I thought his tone sucked on CD "B." What happened, he get a new set of fingers?

No....I'd think that would be in the recording of it...

If that's the case then how are you comparing his tone over time? Are you saying his "live" tone will always be the same...no, because different soundmen mix differently. Are you then saying you have listened to a player in person, just his rig and no PA, many times to even make a comparison? I mean, have you sat down with Satriani and just his rig even three times so that you can say his tone is just in his fingers...I doubt it.

I think a players style is in his fingers and I think his style contributes to the overall tone...but so does the equipment he's playing through. No matter what he plays through he will always sound like himself...sometimes with good tone sometimes with bad tone.