67mike
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Fucking Awesome!!!!!!
Monkey Man
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Dude can really rock at times. 
klugster
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Freaking Sweet!
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VonBonfire
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He doesn't need advertisement, he already got the gov cash. He's the greatest single grifter of tax dollars of all time save for maybe Bezos. I see him as the conservative version of Bill Gates. Everyone with a million bucks wants to become the next beer brewing or wine making king and everyone with a billion bucks well, "everybody wants to rule the world". You musk not put him on a pedestal.
Bad Brain
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I don’t trust that guy at all either, but he is occasionally amusing, and occasionally says some things that need to be said when no one else will.
Laputan Machine
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What government cash does he have? I keep seeing this but it's always contracts being conflated for grants, or subsidies that are solely attributed to his projects that aren't exclusive (IE tax incentives for electric cars are for ALL electric cars, not just Tesla, but every headline about this attributes it to Tesla to frame it like he is getting sweetheart deals).
Space X has had over 250 rocket launches where they carry cargo into space, deposit it and return, that's got to be raking in cash for them.
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Bad Brain
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Isn’t this sufficient? If your business success depends on gov contracts and incentives, you can’t be considered unbiased.
Laputan Machine
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I think contracts are completely different than grants. Grants are gibs/free money, contracts are things you have to deliver on and it's not free money. Obviously, there are incentives and complications with contracts that muddy the waters, but I see the convolution of these two very separate things as being cheap propaganda against him.
Who are the cheerleaders for hating Musk? It's the left wing press and huge sections of our own government. I haven't seen a legit reason to hate on the guy (I have no Tesla stock, follow him on Twitter, use Twitter, or have anything to do with the guy FWIW).
I also don't see his businesses being 'dependent' on gov contracts, how much are the subsidies? 5% of purchase price? Do those subsidies even exist anymore? Didn't Chevy, Ford, GM get that exact same deal? Yes. Does Twitter depend on subsidies, now that he has massively damaged the FBI and DOJ by exposing their 1st amendment violations? No.
Show me some numbers about how this guys investments/corps are dependent on govt cash. I get that people don't like him because of his personality, and that he is not playing an assigned globalist stooge, but haven't seen any actual nefarious intent/actions.
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VonBonfire
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Answer me this: What has he made? What has he produced? Answer: very few unreliable electric cars with poor QC Where is the Tesla truck years later? Where is the solar roof years later? The guy is the ultimate smoke and mirrors champion because he has produced next to nothing and gotten rich.
Bad Brain
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Why? Who bites the hand that feeds them?
I’d be interested to see an analysis, but I’m guessing that a manufacture like ford would go out of business if they sold all their cars for 5% less. Their margins are smaller than you’d imagine. 5% could be keeping Tesla in biz.
Bad Brain
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I get a strong sense of “Controlled opposition,” but I could be wrong. Regardless, he is clearly on board with the creepy transhumanist, globalist, futurist movement.
rsm
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Plenty to choose from:
rsm
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Bad Brain
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PS He was a WEF YGL https://archive.is/wRCvZ
Laputan Machine
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Tesla had by far the highest market cap out of ALL manufacturers for a looooong time. That gave the company crazy funds. Dunno how much of that is him being an evil genius and how much of that is people being idiots and speculating some hot tech oriented company to death which he took advantage of like someone with an IQ above 80. Tesla has sold about 5 million cars now, and is by far the largest EV brand. It appears to be well run, the average wage is quite high and he is strongly anti-union.
Space X is easily (pragmatically) incredibly profitable now, haven eaten up basically all of commercial space transport. Companies sticking satellites in orbit aren't going to Russia, India or China now, they go to Space X.
"Controlled opposition" is plausible, I do see him as a way of getting less retarded people into electric cars, which is a massive goal of the globalist conspiracy/NWO.
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VonBonfire
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Point taken.
"Space" is not real, those are the heavens where men can't tread in a physical body. High altitude balloons is all I believe in.
He's in the hero role right now. Gates is taking the villain role. Neither of them are in control of finance and banking so they are just the people, the faces, given to the public to love or hate. But both are beholden to the financiers. Both want their idea of utopia, which ends in destruction by fire, to proceed forward. Like any witches coven there are internal spats and fpower battles but by my reckoning they serve the same master.
Bad Brain
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How do you know?
Exactly! So the globalists will promote him and his dumb cars. That's not his brilliance at play.
Bad Brain
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Love it dude! ?
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VonBonfire
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If you noticed the recent chinese spy balloons looked just like a "space satellite" with a balloon attached. Space satellites are the same thing they just don't show you the strings and the balloon when they pump your head full of bullshit starting in grade school science books talking about men walking on the moon. Fantasy novels for kids.Love it dude! ?
The rockets launch the balloons. If orbit was real they wouldn't need to constantly launch new satellites but balloons gotta shelf life. Anyone who ever attended a birthday party knows that. Look at the supposed red bull jump. He took a balloon to the "edge of space". Maybe I should start linking green screen international space station vids from bitchute, lol