What Pickups Did Yngwie Use To Record Rising Force Album?

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From what I know he used stock Fender single coils and Dimarzio FS1's prior to releasing the Rising Force album. However, if Rising Force came out in 1984 then he must have put those recordings together before he made the switch to the HS2 correct? Does anyone know definitively which pickups he used for that album?
 
I thought it was the FS1. Was there an HS1?
If it was the HS2 like EJ, their tone was so killer. Magical really.

I've often thought of putting an HS2 in a Strat. Can't believe I haven't to this point.
 
I don't have any inside information but the HS3 came out in 1980 according to Dimarzio's website. I would think it is most likely HS-3s.
 
What a god-awful pickup
With gain at least
I'd be curious to re-try it with my current clean setup
23.72 Kohm... that should be illegal
 
Man I remember my buddy back then slapping one in the neck and it was instant Yngwie tone...
 
War Admiral":1l1p59m9 said:
Man I remember my buddy back then slapping one in the neck and it was instant Yngwie tone...

Really?

When drewiv sent me one last year I had to tweek like crazy to avoid the harshness and "ice-pickness"
 
don't know if there is quality issues with the pickup but the one I played was back in 1990 and it kicked ass
 
War Admiral":3ktmtj4k said:
don't know if there is quality issues with the pickup but the one I played was back in 1990 and it kicked ass

Mine was also a thin dull lacking in gain experience... hated that thing. FS-1 sounds like it would be more my style. Let's face it though, single coil, strat, awesome vibrato, harmonic minor, you'll sound like Yngwie.
 
I would have thought people would have caught on by now but I guess the hs-3 is still the most misunderstood pickup around. It has the output of a low-mid output strat pickup. It will not push an amp at all.

However, if you use a DOD 250 into a cranked 4-hole Marshall you will definitely be in the ballpark of Yngwie tone.
 
Strat+Marshall":216j0b75 said:
I would have thought people would have caught on by now but I guess the hs-3 is still the most misunderstood pickup around. It has the output of a low-mid output strat pickup. It will not push an amp at all.

However, if you use a DOD 250 into a cranked 4-hole Marshall you will definitely be in the ballpark of Yngwie tone.

I agree. I had an Yngwie strat and the HS3/HS4 set sounded awesome. Magnum Opus is one of the most memorable Yngwie tones I can think of. Check out the solo on Cross The Line where he used a Maxon OD9 + Dimarzio HS3 and also on Amberdawn. In fact, I think he used that setup for the whole album.
 
I always heard it was the HS3 into the DOD250 into really loud and bright early '70s Marshall 1987 amps and G12T-75 speakers. The HS3 works because everything else was bright was hell.
 
FS-1's he used in Steeler and Early Sweden years. HS-3's Alcatrazz/Rising Force stuff. Not your traditional "chimey" single coil sizzle, but paired up with a DOD250 or TS-9 with a Non Master Marshall cranked to 10 and sheer command of a strat, then that's what you hear on the records. I remember watching Yngwie's tech soundchecking and it sounded like a mess, but as soon as yngwie played...the hands.
 
I would guess the same thing would happen if you played through EJ's rig - I would bet money that almost none of us would sound even remotely like EJ.
 
The Dimarzio HS3 product page sums it up nicely "is actually a smooth and relatively quiet pickup that produces a sweet overdrive tone without jagged edges. These qualities combine perfectly with a heavily distorted amp, because the sound won’t get muddy or messy."
 
Also... hilarious recent interview with Premier Guitar:

"Your guitars now sport the Seymour Duncan YJM Fury pickups. How are they different from the DiMarzios you used to use?

In Sweden, where I grew up, the electricity there is a little different. Like 50-cycle or something. The hum wasn’t that bad, but when I came to America it was horrendous. I was using a DiMarzio pickup called the FS-1, which is really hot. I went to DiMarzio and said, “I have an idea. Why don't you put the two pickups on top of each other instead of side-by-side, you’ll get hum cancelling but the same magnetic window.” They made the HS-1 and it was too thin, didn’t have any harmonics. They made two others and I kept the HS-3, but I said, “Listen, this doesn’t have any power.” They said, “Oh no, that’s what you get. What you have is half the pickup because the other half is only for the hum cancelling.” I lived with that for like 25 years. One day Seymour Duncan approached me and, at first, I was skeptical. But let me tell you something, these guys are literally geniuses. We did 21 prototypes. They would send it to me and I would put it in a guitar and listen to it and talk to them on the phone. I tell you right now, and anybody reading this who knows anything about me knows that I don’t promote anything unless it’s [expletive] amazing. I took all the pickguards from all my guitars—literally hundreds of them—and put them in one thing and use it as a boat anchor now."
 
^Hahaha, what the hell. I never know what to believe from that guy.
 
Adam of Angels":234hqm3y said:
^Hahaha, what the hell. I never know what to believe from that guy.

Yeah he did seem to sell out rather quickly for the Duncan thing. I remember a few videos, and maybe even an interview with Larry Dimarzio, where he talked about the HS3 output being ideal because he was a big fan of original Fender 50's pickups or something like that.
 
The problem isn't so much that we don't know how to use it..it isn't rocket science to boost it or any med output single coil to get the yngwie tone. The problem was that it was lifeless without the gain boxes and sometimes you want to live in that space as well. Another problem is that it was hard to match in a H-S strat with a bucker. Chopper works fantastic for that. I'll get around to trying an fs-1 at some point though. Anyway end of the day, he rips on whatever. So I wonder, these fury pups, are they more in the realm of the FS-1?
 
Kapo_Polenton":14gl7wok said:
The problem isn't so much that we don't know how to use it..it isn't rocket science to boost it or any med output single coil to get the yngwie tone. The problem was that it was lifeless without the gain boxes and sometimes you want to live in that space as well. Another problem is that it was hard to match in a H-S strat with a bucker. Chopper works fantastic for that. I'll get around to trying an fs-1 at some point though. Anyway end of the day, he rips on whatever. So I wonder, these fury pups, are they more in the realm of the FS-1?

I'm a huge Dimarzio fan and have strats with Virtual Vintage, the Chopper (my favorite), Injectors, etc... I also have a strat with YJM Furies. The FS-1 is a true single coil. It's slightly fatter and hotter than vintage single coils, but not a departure from vintage single coil tone either. It's a bit warmer than surf type single coils, but necessarily not less brilliant, and kind of has the vocal character from the Dimarzio midrange.

On the other hand, the YJM Fury is another kind of pickup all together. It's hot and sounds like a humbucker in parallel. I don't want to say it sounds like a P90 because it's definitely more humbucker sounding than the HS3 and with less of the hollow midrange strattiness. It has a thick low end, nice mids, and kind of smooth top end. I actually wish they were slightly brighter, but I like them the way they are. It's best with 500k pots.

As for the HS3, well it's only dull when there is not enough volume on the amp. It doesn't necessarily need lots of overdrive, but the amp has to be loud enough to hear what it offers. I have a friend who is a good blues player and he uses HS3's in a couple of his guitars. Even though he kind of had that Dimarzio vibe, I wouldn't have guessed those were the pickups he was using. I ran across a few good Youtube videos a couple of years ago which used the HS3 for blues and cleaner stuff. Maybe those videos are still around. So, in part I have to agree with you but I think it has a lot to do with the volume and not necessarily the overdrive.
 
 
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