whats another good guitar/gear forum???

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mniel8195":2ortooo5 said:
Sevenstring.org is my favorite
I have been there a lot also. There are a lot of younger users, but it is one of the few forums that is heavily metal based with no negative bias towards 7/8 strings, and tubes or modeling.
 
Rezamatix":3eecx1cx said:
This forum is the best, except for the 80's fascination.
Agreed. Great forum, top notch advice. :thumbsup: But a little bit too much 80's at times. I like a lot of the 80's guitar tones but the over produced drums and keyboards wear me out.
 
HRI, Bareknucklepickups, and the MTS forum are pretty cool. USA Charvels is cool too but gives me too much GAS. RT has the coolest classifieds for sure.
 
Rezamatix":18lbk7e3 said:
guitarmike":18lbk7e3 said:
Rezamatix":18lbk7e3 said:
This forum is the best, except for the 80's fascination.

People will continue to be fascinated with the 80's until something better takes its place. 1965 - 1994 was a magical period for music.


There is so much better music now. The 80's were far from magic. I'll take 1969 Hendrix over any 80's "magic" . Lots of aqua net and assholes in the 80's , glam metal? You can't really think that was magical?

The tones aren't even that good! (except all early EVH).
I hear way better guitar tones in the music before and after the 80's. All these cats running around scooping the mids and tapping with tons of delay and effects isn't tone, it's crap. (sorry , Its not my intention to offend, but to really say what needs to be said once and for all)

That being said I have the highest respect for the guitar playing innovators that came from the 80's, Demartini, steve Stevens, EVH, etc. but that shit is so played out.


This forum would be over the top awesome if there was a more varied appreciation for tones beyond the 80's.

I agree with alot of this except I don't even listen to music from past the 80's. The 80's was the last decade of decent music, IMO. As an older guy, none of the 80's players had ANY impact on me, including guys like EVH, Randy Rhoads. At the time I loved the stuff as a listener, as a guitarist the real stuff that moved me was late 60's thru the entire 70's decade.
That said the 70's was where it was at in terms of guitar players that had something to say, guitar tone, etc.

The 80's turned guitar into a technique driven circus. Not much has stood the test of time, IMO All flash, little substance, IMO
 
Metroamp forum is worth a visit if you're into amp building or want to learn what makes them tick.
 
Rezamatix":20kwmugk said:
guitarmike":20kwmugk said:
Rezamatix":20kwmugk said:
This forum is the best, except for the 80's fascination.

People will continue to be fascinated with the 80's until something better takes its place. 1965 - 1994 was a magical period for music.


There is so much better music now. The 80's were far from magic. I'll take 1969 Hendrix over any 80's "magic" . Lots of aqua net and assholes in the 80's , glam metal? You can't really think that was magical?

The tones aren't even that good! (except all early EVH).
I hear way better guitar tones in the music before and after the 80's. All these cats running around scooping the mids and tapping with tons of delay and effects isn't tone, it's crap. (sorry , Its not my intention to offend, but to really say what needs to be said once and for all)

That being said I have the highest respect for the guitar playing innovators that came from the 80's, Demartini, steve Stevens, EVH, etc. but that shit is so played out.


This forum would be over the top awesome if there was a more varied appreciation for tones beyond the 80's.

This forum is awesome, we do have people that are into many different era's and genres. Tone is subjective, but if the song is well crafted, most here will appreciate it regardless of tone or genre.
 
Rezamatix":3ahtymnv said:
guitarmike":3ahtymnv said:
Rezamatix":3ahtymnv said:
This forum is the best, except for the 80's fascination.

People will continue to be fascinated with the 80's until something better takes its place. 1965 - 1994 was a magical period for music.


There is so much better music now. The 80's were far from magic. I'll take 1969 Hendrix over any 80's "magic" . Lots of aqua net and assholes in the 80's , glam metal? You can't really think that was magical?

The tones aren't even that good! (except all early EVH).
I hear way better guitar tones in the music before and after the 80's. All these cats running around scooping the mids and tapping with tons of delay and effects isn't tone, it's crap. (sorry , Its not my intention to offend, but to really say what needs to be said once and for all)

That being said I have the highest respect for the guitar playing innovators that came from the 80's, Demartini, steve Stevens, EVH, etc. but that shit is so played out.


This forum would be over the top awesome if there was a more varied appreciation for tones beyond the 80's.

Despite being a product of the 80's I'm glad you're waving the flag for other influences, you're a great player. :thumbsup:
 
tripstan":28mhwbx8 said:
Rezamatix":28mhwbx8 said:
This forum is the best, except for the 80's fascination.
Agreed. Great forum, top notch advice. :thumbsup: But a little bit too much 80's at times. I like a lot of the 80's guitar tones but the over produced drums and keyboards wear me out.

Totally agree. 1984 (the year) was a real turning point for me where bands went from sounding more live in the room, naturally big, to insanely wet and fake sounding in the rhythm section. But there was a lot of good rock music in the 80's that wasn't geared towards headbangers ball. I will admit that my favorite tones are easily from the 70's. A Lot of my favorite drum recordings are from the very early 80's though.
 
If you like metal, Harmony Central amp forum (lots of trolls but once you get to know them it's like a car wreck, you can't look away). If you like djent/tech metal seven string forum. I lurk here for info for less mainstream amps, cables, speakers etc. I find myself hanging out at gearsluts a lot, but that is more about mics, recording and pres etc.
 
Rezamatix":qmzijb2n said:
guitarmike":qmzijb2n said:
Rezamatix":qmzijb2n said:
This forum is the best, except for the 80's fascination.

People will continue to be fascinated with the 80's until something better takes its place. 1965 - 1994 was a magical period for music.


There is so much better music now. The 80's were far from magic. I'll take 1969 Hendrix over any 80's "magic" . Lots of aqua net and assholes in the 80's , glam metal? You can't really think that was magical?

The tones aren't even that good! (except all early EVH).
I hear way better guitar tones in the music before and after the 80's. All these cats running around scooping the mids and tapping with tons of delay and effects isn't tone, it's crap. (sorry , Its not my intention to offend, but to really say what needs to be said once and for all)

That being said I have the highest respect for the guitar playing innovators that came from the 80's, Demartini, steve Stevens, EVH, etc. but that shit is so played out.


This forum would be over the top awesome if there was a more varied appreciation for tones beyond the 80's.

I think its all what you are looking for. I don't see the fascination with the 80's so much on this forum as just a concentration of hard rock and metal from the 60's on.

Also, the era when people were 15-25 tends to be their favorite music. For me that is the 90's. My favorite band of all time isn't from the 90's or even a hard rock/metal act, but I keep them on the down low....
 
Naw I think there is an overload of 80s smack here. Yet focus is on a few players n it just gets old. Lynch evh martini blah blah.
Yet we forget about monster players like Eric Peterson Alex Skolnick Dave Murray Adrian smith.

Also wondering how many more modded Marshall's are gonna surface.it's time to take amps to a new level.
 
Rezamatix":s3tkp26r said:
guitarmike":s3tkp26r said:
Rezamatix":s3tkp26r said:
This forum is the best, except for the 80's fascination.

People will continue to be fascinated with the 80's until something better takes its place. 1965 - 1994 was a magical period for music.


There is so much better music now. The 80's were far from magic. I'll take 1969 Hendrix over any 80's "magic" . Lots of aqua net and assholes in the 80's , glam metal? You can't really think that was magical?

The tones aren't even that good! (except all early EVH).
I hear way better guitar tones in the music before and after the 80's. All these cats running around scooping the mids and tapping with tons of delay and effects isn't tone, it's crap. (sorry , Its not my intention to offend, but to really say what needs to be said once and for all)

That being said I have the highest respect for the guitar playing innovators that came from the 80's, Demartini, steve Stevens, EVH, etc. but that shit is so played out.


This forum would be over the top awesome if there was a more varied appreciation for tones beyond the 80's.

If were talking just guitar playing the 80's was the best decade. The 90's sucked ass in comparison because it wasn't even fashionable to play leads and to me there was soo much Sabbath ripoff going around and nobody cared. I'm talking guitar playing and not music, but for me the 80's has been better than anything since in that regard. There was a lot more than LA Aqua net in the 80's like all the great British metal bands like Maiden and Priest. And let's not forget what decade Metallica and Slayer came out of. Yes I was never a Kirk fan but I was a Metallica fan.

And tell me this, what rock albums have been better than Back in Black or Appettite For Destruction since? And just think, plenty of the great bands from the 70's were alive and well with all the new 80's bands. From 1975 to 1988 was the best time IMHO and it's been a complete downward fall since.

One any given weekend there was a big concert at a stadium near you with any number of great acts in their PRIME like Ozzy, VH, Pink Floyd, Queen, AC/DC, Maiden, Journey, Scorpians, Rush, etc etc. The state of guitar playing is seriously diminished now compared to then.

I think too many people that weren't into music in the 80's think it was just one big sleaze hair metal party when it wasn't
 
Rezamatix":231tl2hx said:
There is so much better music now. The 80's were far from magic. I'll take 1969 Hendrix over any 80's "magic" . Lots of aqua net and assholes in the 80's , glam metal? You can't really think that was magical?

Thats nothing more than your opinion, FWIW, Ill take 70's Trower tone over '69 Hendrix . Like it or hate it, The 80's carried over the friggin hard rock guitar Renaissance from the 70's yet all you seem to harp on is aquanet and assholes? seriously? I listen to alot of stuff but help me out, please give me some examples of this "so much better music now" that youre talking about..

Rezamatix":231tl2hx said:
The tones aren't even that good! (except all early EVH).
I hear way better guitar tones in the music before and after the 80's. All these cats running around scooping the mids and tapping with tons of delay and effects isn't tone, it's crap.

Again, nothing more than our opinion. FYI, about the only people who were running around scooping mids were the Bay Area Thrash bands . Who else after them was scooped?

The 80's didnt have any more or less effects than the 70's or anything after it for the most part when you think about it; it was alot of the same stuff used in different ways. Whats wrong with tapping LOL??? If thats what you use to dissmiss a decade of music( along with aquanet and assholes), It makes your opinion worthless IMHO. Like what you like but to call it crap because you dont like it is Stupid.

Rezamatix":231tl2hx said:
Its not my intention to offend, but to really say what needs to be said once and for all

WTF is that supposed to mean LOL?!?!?!?!? How is any of what you said something that need to be said( once and for all LOL!!!)?


Rezamatix":231tl2hx said:
That being said I have the highest respect for the guitar playing innovators that came from the 80's, Demartini, steve Stevens, EVH, etc. but that shit is so played out.

Played out where???? I dont know about you but I listen to what I want to listen to when I want to listen to it..Is there someone twisting your arm and making you listen to stuff that you dont want to listen to?


Rezamatix":231tl2hx said:
This forum would be over the top awesome if there was a more varied appreciation for tones beyond the 80's.
LOL, sounds alot like " This place would be over the top awesome if more people liked what I like"

As a Kid, I worshipped The Beatles, Elvis and MoTown like you wouldntnt believe and to this day I still do. I discovered Jimi when I was 6 and the 70's were and are still Magic to me with everything that went on from Hard Rock to Funk to Progressive etc. The 80's carried that on as well and I loved the Hard Rock/ Metal scene and most of what it had to offer. Not so much in the 90's but bands like AIC and STP I still love and so on and so forth.. I loved so much that came out of the 80's but truth be told, Its not my go to tone or style; Im more of a Hard rock guy thats a bit of 70's and 80's . 90% of the 80's based discussion dont hold much interest for me but that doesnt diminish a thing about this forum for me.

WTF is stopping you from sharing the tones/music that you like? Im sorry but when I see posts like yours, I scratch my head. You pidgeonhole an entire forum of people and players as well as a genre of music and see nothing wrong with that. To me, it sounds like elitist/corksniffer crap . Start a thread about something other than 80's music/tones , you may be surprised to find that people like alot more stuff than you give them credit for.

Sorry about the rant dude but posts like yours just dont make much sense to me. If youre vocal enough to voice your opinion about stuff that you dont like, youre more than capable of starting a discussion about stuff that you do...
 
I like the Gear page .... it's not too bad overall. Harmony Central used to be good but too many kids. My Les Paul Forum isn't bad either. :thumbsup:
 
Even though I think the 80's was the last decade of decent music, it was mixed in with tons of shit regardless of genre. Look at the big festivals, US Festival....TONS of fluff and shit there.
Compare that to Monterey, Woodstock and the countless pop festivals thu-out the 60's and 70's and you can see just what a lacking decade it was.

I'm actually grateful not to be influenced by any 80's guitarists. Most had no foundation.....it was all flash and no substance, which is why a few decades from now people will still revere the 60's and 70's for groundbreaking music , while the 80's will be a blip on the radar.

Kage, as far as Jimi and Trower I love them both but never compared them. If you wanna compare '69 Jimi tone to '69 Trower tone (Procal Harum) Trower loses.

Had Jimi lived into the 70's he would have been up to speed on all the tone tools and used them to his advantage.
 
cupcaketwins":1nzx3vda said:
Even though I think the 80's was the last decade of decent music, it was mixed in with tons of shit regardless of genre. Look at the big festivals, US Festival....TONS of fluff and shit there.
Compare that to Monterey, Woodstock and the countless pop festivals thu-out the 60's and 70's and you can see just what a lacking decade it was.

I'm actually grateful not to be influenced by any 80's guitarists. Most had no foundation.....it was all flash and no substance, which is why a few decades from now people will still revere the 60's and 70's for groundbreaking music , while the 80's will be a blip on the radar.

Kage, as far as Jimi and Trower I love them both but never compared them. If you wanna compare '69 Jimi tone to '69 Trower tone (Procal Harum) Trower loses.

Had Jimi lived into the 70's he would have been up to speed on all the tone tools and used them to his advantage.

There was shit ton of crap in the 70's as well, does disco ring a bell? There's also a ton of people who think 1991-1995 was the best period of music, whether you hate it or not. Since you don't listen to anything new let me enlighten you and tell you that a band like U2 has inlfuenced more of the young bands out there right now than anyone else from the 70's. 20 years from now you'll hear bands still ripping off U2 while tons other 70's material will be forgotten.
 
cupcaketwins":2jfohqgx said:
Even though I think the 80's was the last decade of decent music, it was mixed in with tons of shit regardless of genre. Look at the big festivals, US Festival....TONS of fluff and shit there.
Compare that to Monterey, Woodstock and the countless pop festivals thu-out the 60's and 70's and you can see just what a lacking decade it was.

I disagree dude and its kind of apples and oranges. Heres a list of who played at Woodstock, are you going to tell me that was all killer and no filler?

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/m ... stock.html

Im not denying that there wasnt alot of shit in the 80's, blame that on the advent of MTV. Thats when alot of people stopped listening to music and started watching it. BUT, show me an era where there wasnt alot of shit, ya cant..

cupcaketwins":2jfohqgx said:
I'm actually grateful not to be influenced by any 80's guitarists. Most had no foundation.....it was all flash and no substance, which is why a few decades from now people will still revere the 60's and 70's for groundbreaking music , while the 80's will be a blip on the radar.

DeMartini,Lynch,Van Halen,Gary Moore, Vai, Satriani, Eric Johnson, Steve Morse, Yngwie, Randy Rhoades, Sykes, Jake Lee, Brad Gillis, Knopler, Holdsworth, Saraceno, Firkins, Bettencourt,Gilbert,Greg Howe, Kotzen,Jason Becker, Slash, Prince, Steve Stevens, The Edge, Dave Meniketti, Vivian Campbell..

do you really feel that all of those guys are all flash with no substance or foundation? Cmon...

The 80 will never be just a blip, younger generations are drinking it up and embracing it all the time. Shit just keep evolving and being built upon..

cupcaketwins":2jfohqgx said:
Kage, as far as Jimi and Trower I love them both but never compared them. If you wanna compare '69 Jimi tone to '69 Trower tone (Procal Harum) Trower loses.

Had Jimi lived into the 70's he would have been up to speed on all the tone tools and used them to his advantage.

I wasnt comparing them Carl , just stating that I liked Trowers 70's tone beter than Jimis 69 tone is all.. We'll never know what Jimi would have sounded like with better tone tools..regardless, I still think his live tone from 76 is my favorite live strat tone of all time. Loved Jimis tone at woodstock and the Fillmore as well but would it have sounded as good? who knows?
 
There are great bands in every decade. Picking one and slagging the others is silly.

Hendrix freaked us out when Hey Joe hit the radio. Trower got us all stoned on the Bridge of Sighs. Alice Cooper chopped our heads off. KISS took us back to Detroit Rock City. Zep gave us the guitar store anthem of all time. Too many killer guitar players in the 80's to mention. Pick your favorite dozen.

I like 90's Metallica and AIC, Soundgarden, Godsmack... So many great bands.

I think we are living in a great time to play. So much great gear, music tab, shared knowledge.

Now is the best time, if you do something with the tools at your disposal.

And this forum is still the best.....
 
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