Where is all the Schecter love around here? Rant inside.

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You're totally right. I shouldn't criticize guitars in similar price brackets because they don't line up 100% with an idealistic view on what should be compared in the first place. I'll be sure to fix my point of view to align more towards yours in the future. There are no guitars out there that can match Schecters dollar for dollar. Thank you for showing me the light.
 
Yeah, Schector is pretty tight. But that Baron looks like a BAMF!! And we all know you gots clips in nearly every speaker/mic/cab configuration known pickers n' grinners everywhere. What's up?? :gethim:
 
Although they've had some QC issues lately, they are still great guitars for the money. A lot of them include top-notch components (Seymour Duncan, Grover tuners, Original Floyd Rose, etc.) and they are mostly very playable and affordable guitars.
 
snowdog":2e3ncd3w said:
So you own lots of top shelf amplifiers and you are praising Korean made Schecter's ? Sounds a bit fishy to me.

This is really a tale of consistency and happiness. I only own physical things because they help me complete tasks that are important to my life. I don't "collect" guitars or amps; that is silly to me. I may be 24 years old, but one thing I know is that the user does the most work to create a "tone," right next to the cabinet and speakers you use and how you position a microphone to capture that sound.

I use my ears and hands to make gear-related decisions. My least expensive guitar cabinet cost me $250; My most expensive, $1300. My least expensive amp cost me $750 and it gets used on 70% of the recordings I do. I have no allegiance to any brand unless they make my job as an engineer and artist more pleasant.

I got my first amp from Dave at Baron Custom amps roughly three years ago. There was minor damage during shipping. He called me from his cell less than an hour from receiving my e-mail, apologized, and offered me either 10% off the price of the amp, or to send it back at his expense to be repaired and promised a one week turnaround. That is called service. I have recommended more people to Dave than anyone, and love using his amps.

I bought a Diezel with a cosmetic issue. Peter Diezel e-mailed me the next day to apologize that it slipped by them and said they would take the amp back and replace it. No hesitation. That is called service. Because I try to contribute to the betterment of the world, I will be sure to share the information (like I am doing now) and turn people toward a company of gentlemen who respect both their product and their customer.

I tried to buy a new Framus Cobra. They stopped selling through dealers. Dealers told me they didn't want to work with Framus anymore because they had the poorest communication in the business. I called Framus to buy a Cobra direct and they told me they were $3999.00. I could not believe how outlandish the price had become; two years prior, they sold THROUGH DEALERS for $1999.99. So now they're selling direct and jacked up the price $2000.00? That sounds like a great move on the company's part. I bought a used Cobra and e-mailed them on four different occasions to buy replacement parts and they never got back to me. Fuck them.

I was interested in a Schecter guitar that no one seemed to carry. I called Schecter and got in touch with Aime Caron in customer support. He e-mailed me within minutes to help me find a dealer. I got my guitar and it was awesome.

People make a company and on many levels, the product will reflect the individuals who run it :D

We are all on this planet together. The more we can share great experiences and avoid poor ones, the better our world will be or multiple levels. Based on my experience, I am sharing an opinion that I believe may help people have more fun playing guitar. I'm not lurking on gear forums, slandering other people because of vendettas, etc. ;)

stratotone":2e3ncd3w said:
Sharp fret ends are usually caused by too dry a climate, and a guitar could be fine at the factory but if the guitar shop or place it 'lives' is really dry, the wood can shrink? Haven't seen it so much on bound fingerboards, but seen it happen on a number of guitars that were fine one day and a few days later, sharp fret ends. It's not a QC issue so much as a bad environment issue. Even a 3000 dollar instrument isn't immune to the effects of climate.

I am privy to the environmental impact on musical instruments and the contracting and expanding of wood. I just find it extremely interesting that I have had instruments from different parts of the USA, let alone different countries of the world, and I have only experienced such ABOMINABLE fret dressing on two USA Jacksons recently that came from a dealer very close in serial number.
 
lolzgreg":3w00bz0z said:
snowdog":3w00bz0z said:
So you own lots of top shelf amplifiers and you are praising Korean made Schecter's ? Sounds a bit fishy to me.

This is really a tale of consistency and happiness. I only own physical things because they help me complete tasks that are important to my life. I don't "collect" guitars or amps; that is silly to me. I may be 24 years old, but one thing I know is that the user does the most work to create a "tone," right next to the cabinet and speakers you use and how you position a microphone to capture that sound.

I use my ears and hands to make gear-related decisions. My least expensive guitar cabinet cost me $250; My most expensive, $1300. My least expensive amp cost me $750 and it gets used on 70% of the recordings I do. I have no allegiance to any brand unless they make my job as an engineer and artist more pleasant.

I got my first amp from Dave at Baron Custom amps roughly three years ago. There was minor damage during shipping. He called me from his cell less than an hour from receiving my e-mail, apologized, and offered me either 10% off the price of the amp, or to send it back at his expense to be repaired and promised a one week turnaround. That is called service. I have recommended more people to Dave than anyone, and love using his amps.

I bought a Diezel with a cosmetic issue. Peter Diezel e-mailed me the next day to apologize that it slipped by them and said they would take the amp back and replace it. No hesitation. That is called service. Because I try to contribute to the betterment of the world, I will be sure to share the information (like I am doing now) and turn people toward a company of gentlemen who respect both their product and their customer.

I tried to buy a new Framus Cobra. They stopped selling through dealers. Dealers told me they didn't want to work with Framus anymore because they had the poorest communication in the business. I called Framus to buy a Cobra direct and they told me they were $3999.00. I could not believe how outlandish the price had become; two years prior, they sold THROUGH DEALERS for $1999.99. So now they're selling direct and jacked up the price $2000.00? That sounds like a great move on the company's part. I bought a used Cobra and e-mailed them on four different occasions to buy replacement parts and they never got back to me. Fuck them.

I was interested in a Schecter guitar that no one seemed to carry. I called Schecter and got in touch with Aime Caron in customer support. He e-mailed me within minutes to help me find a dealer. I got my guitar and it was awesome.

People make a company and on many levels, the product will reflect the individuals who run it :D

We are all on this planet together. The more we can share great experiences and avoid poor ones, the better our world will be or multiple levels. Based on my experience, I am sharing an opinion that I believe may help people have more fun playing guitar. I'm not lurking on gear forums, slandering other people because of vendettas, etc. ;)

Fuck'n RIGHT!
 
lolzgreg":3h2x3v4q said:
I am privy to the environmental impact on musical instruments and the contracting and expanding of wood. I just find it extremely interesting that I have had instruments from different parts of the USA, let alone different countries of the world, and I have only experienced such ABOMINABLE fret dressing on two USA Jacksons recently that came from a dealer very close in serial number.

If you can prove that they came from the factory like that, then you have a point. But fret ends get sharp from environmental changes that shrink the wood. It's not a flaw in manufacture.

From Gibson's website:

• Why fret ends get sharp: Sometimes the end of the fret wire can become sharp or, more accurately, protrusive at the sides of a guitar’s neck. Besides being rough on the hands, this is an indicator of a trickier problem: that the fingerboard has become dry and shrunk. This means that the guitar has been kept in an environment that lacks the proper humidity. More careful storage is the ultimate answer, but using lemon oil on the fretboard also helps prevent this from happening by moisturizing the wood.
 
I really like my C1+




so much so that I took out the stock pups and put in a '59 and Custom Custom TB11





fret work and inlays are really well done. internal circuitry is not the greatest but not really a bother either
 
I recently picked up a clean burgandy flame '01 Schecter 006 Elite for $125 off Craig's List.Modded it with CTS pots,Switchcraft toggle switch/output jack and Seymour Duncan Custom/lil' '59 pickups.It plays real nice,looks good and sounds superb.Even though I have several other USA made guitars [Gibson,Hamer,Fender,Washburn],I tend to grab the 006 Elite when I'm playing heavier styles.


Ed
 
I used to own two Schecter CETs. Yep the USA Custom Shop guitars. They are simlar to a Suhr Std or a TAG drop top. Infact I believe TAG and Suhr used Schecter bodies when they had started out. Maybe I'm wrong on this but I'm almost positive I read that years ago. Anyways... I never should have sold those guitars and miss them immensly.
 
I have a bit of a soft spot for Schecter, it was my first electric, an old 80's strat. Very nice guitar, one of the few guitars I've ever parted with, I gave it to the singer in my band at the time when I got my first pointy style Charvel because strat heads weren't really in fashion at that point (regret not keeping it).

Didn't think about the brand again until a few years ago when I was looking for an inexpensive 7 string to play around with. The Loomis model totally floored me, it felt like a steal for the price (comfy neck, good resonance). I did come close to going for a custom Schecter 7 next based on that experience, but a deal on an ESP edged it out at the last second.

Interesting comment on Jackson, I've been disappointed somewhat as well with a recent high dollar Dinky purchase and a US production Soloist. My pair of old 80's Jacksons still feel perfect, and even good experience with a few MIJ's in the herd, but not feeling the modern US Jacksons I've tried so far (maybe just bad luck). My modern US Charvels have mostly kicked ass though (from pro mod up to full custom).
 
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