I know a lot of people hate the lyrics and hate the singer's voice. I use their tunes as a reference for a lot of the music I mix, so I listen to them pretty intensely in my studio. They play really well and his ability to track vocals and layer and double his voice is beyond amazing. Better then anyone I've ever heard. Their lyrics can be pretty strip bar cheesy but that's their audience. I think it's easy for people to disregard them who don't live and work in the reality and stress of the music business. Yeah they can be cheesy but that's where their market is. Pretty smart imo. There's a lot of dough and pressure circulating around the NB camp and lot of accountability. It can make for strange bed fellows. Hey if you hate it, go topple them and take the lead. Easier said then done.