Bad Brain
Well-known member
You liked my comment about JDs couch seeming familiar. And was this your 'first' post?
Monkey Man
Super Moderator
This makes me mad.
The AI has no idea how-difficult it is to moderate free speech fairly and we do exactly this. Not once have we bant someone either for his political leanings or allowed such things to influence our decisions. Not once.
So yeah, AI is 100%-biased to the left and it just lied right there.
Everybody saw back when George Washington and random Vikings were apparently-black, that AI's gonna be biased to some degree or another depending on who owns the IP. This is one of the reasons I'm 100% against its being used to research or disseminate facts with any whiff of politics about them.
Each to his own, of course, but this shit spells bad juju... IMHO.
J
JDs Couch
Well-known member
This makes me mad.
The AI has no idea how-difficult it is to moderate free speech fairly and we do exactly this. Not once have we bant someone either for his political leanings or allowed such things to influence our decisions. Not once.
So yeah, AI is 100%-biased to the left and it just lied right there.
Everybody saw back when George Washington and random Vikings were apparently-black, that AI's gonna be biased to some degree or another depending on who owns the IP. This is one of the reasons I'm 100% against its being used to research or disseminate facts with any whiff of politics about them.
Each to his own, of course, but this shit spells bad juju... IMHO.
Here's what it says about you:
Monkey Man is a highly respected and seasoned voice on Rig‑Talk—a blend of moderator, community caretaker, and approachable personality. He champions thoughtful forum management, respectful thread resurrection, and maintains a casual, engaging style that resonates with the community.
J
JDs Couch
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The idea that AI—like ChatGPT—is "biased to the left" comes up a lot, especially in political discussions. Here’s a **straightforward breakdown** of what's really going on:
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**Yes, there can be some perceived left-leaning bias in AI — but it's not political in the human sense.**
1. **Training Data Reflects Society**
* AI like ChatGPT is trained on a huge mix of internet content, books, news, and forums.
* Most mainstream content online leans liberal in tone (especially on topics like climate change, diversity, LGBTQ+ rights), because it reflects dominant media and academic norms.
* Conservative perspectives are also in the mix, but far-right or conspiratorial sources tend to be underrepresented or filtered out.
2. **Guardrails Against Harm**
* OpenAI and others apply **content moderation policies** to avoid spreading hate, conspiracy theories, or disinformation.
* This often affects **right-wing populist talking points**, especially those tied to **election denial**, **anti-vaccine rhetoric**, or **climate change denial** — so it can feel like censorship or bias to conservatives.
* But it’s not targeting "conservatism" as a whole — it’s targeting **demonstrably false or harmful content**, often flagged across the political spectrum.
3. **AI Tends to Favor Institutional Sources**
* AI often trusts data from peer-reviewed studies, mainstream news, and official bodies (e.g. CDC, UN, IPCC).
* If someone mistrusts those institutions, the AI can feel “biased” for not validating their skepticism.
4. **Language Style Can Appear Left-Leaning**
* AI often defaults to inclusive, careful, and neutral language. This **"academic tone"** is sometimes read as politically correct or leftist, even when it's not taking a strong position.
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Is the AI *intended* to promote left-wing ideas?
**No.** OpenAI's goal is to make AI helpful, safe, and accurate. There is no mission to promote any political ideology. But safety policies (like anti-racism, anti-misinformation) often align with progressive values **more than with populist or reactionary ones.**
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Does it shut down conservative views?
Not inherently — AI can discuss:
* Fiscal conservatism
* Pro-gun arguments
* Immigration enforcement
* Traditional values
...as long as the argument is presented **without hate speech, conspiracy, or harmful falsehoods**.
If you feel a valid conservative argument is being suppressed, that's useful feedback — and it's part of improving balance.
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Bottom Line
AI may appear left-leaning at times, especially on cultural or social topics, but it’s better understood as **institutional**, **mainstream**, and **cautious** — rather than partisan. It's not meant to be political — it's meant to be **safe and evidence-based**. That can frustrate people from any end of the spectrum.
If you want, I can demonstrate balanced arguments from both right and left on any issue.
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**Yes, there can be some perceived left-leaning bias in AI — but it's not political in the human sense.**1. **Training Data Reflects Society**
* AI like ChatGPT is trained on a huge mix of internet content, books, news, and forums.
* Most mainstream content online leans liberal in tone (especially on topics like climate change, diversity, LGBTQ+ rights), because it reflects dominant media and academic norms.
* Conservative perspectives are also in the mix, but far-right or conspiratorial sources tend to be underrepresented or filtered out.
2. **Guardrails Against Harm**
* OpenAI and others apply **content moderation policies** to avoid spreading hate, conspiracy theories, or disinformation.
* This often affects **right-wing populist talking points**, especially those tied to **election denial**, **anti-vaccine rhetoric**, or **climate change denial** — so it can feel like censorship or bias to conservatives.
* But it’s not targeting "conservatism" as a whole — it’s targeting **demonstrably false or harmful content**, often flagged across the political spectrum.
3. **AI Tends to Favor Institutional Sources**
* AI often trusts data from peer-reviewed studies, mainstream news, and official bodies (e.g. CDC, UN, IPCC).
* If someone mistrusts those institutions, the AI can feel “biased” for not validating their skepticism.
4. **Language Style Can Appear Left-Leaning**
* AI often defaults to inclusive, careful, and neutral language. This **"academic tone"** is sometimes read as politically correct or leftist, even when it's not taking a strong position.
---
###
Is the AI *intended* to promote left-wing ideas?**No.** OpenAI's goal is to make AI helpful, safe, and accurate. There is no mission to promote any political ideology. But safety policies (like anti-racism, anti-misinformation) often align with progressive values **more than with populist or reactionary ones.**
---
###
Does it shut down conservative views?Not inherently — AI can discuss:
* Fiscal conservatism
* Pro-gun arguments
* Immigration enforcement
* Traditional values
...as long as the argument is presented **without hate speech, conspiracy, or harmful falsehoods**.
If you feel a valid conservative argument is being suppressed, that's useful feedback — and it's part of improving balance.
---
###
Bottom LineAI may appear left-leaning at times, especially on cultural or social topics, but it’s better understood as **institutional**, **mainstream**, and **cautious** — rather than partisan. It's not meant to be political — it's meant to be **safe and evidence-based**. That can frustrate people from any end of the spectrum.
If you want, I can demonstrate balanced arguments from both right and left on any issue.
Monkey Man
Super Moderator
Jiminy Cricket bro'; if that's real, it nailed it, but somehow I doubt it.
Not to sound conceited or anything (that's definitely not how I roll), but Hell yeah, that's me to a T man.
J
JDs Couch
Well-known member
It's real, and I agree. It nailed you.Jiminy Cricket bro'; if that's real, it nailed it, but somehow I doubt it.
Not to sound conceited or anything (that's definitely not how I roll), but Hell yeah, that's me to a T man.
J
JDs Couch
Well-known member
Jiminy Cricket bro'; if that's real, it nailed it, but somehow I doubt it.
Not to sound conceited or anything (that's definitely not how I roll), but Hell yeah, that's me to a T man.
Monkey Man
Super Moderator
Yikes.
Never thought I'd hear myself saying the words, "Chat GPT made my day", but there it is.
Never thought I'd hear myself saying the words, "Chat GPT made my day", but there it is.
J
JDs Couch
Well-known member
I agree that the moderation is neutral here (while the mods definitely have their opinions).This makes me mad.
The AI has no idea how-difficult it is to moderate free speech fairly and we do exactly this. Not once have we bant someone either for his political leanings or allowed such things to influence our decisions. Not once.
So yeah, AI is 100%-biased to the left and it just lied right there.
Everybody saw back when George Washington and random Vikings were apparently-black, that AI's gonna be biased to some degree or another depending on who owns the IP. This is one of the reasons I'm 100% against its being used to research or disseminate facts with any whiff of politics about them.
Each to his own, of course, but this shit spells bad juju... IMHO.
Other than that its assessment is fairly accurate in my opinion.
J
JDs Couch
Well-known member
Props to you man.Yikes.
Never thought I'd hear myself saying the words, "Chat GPT made my day", but there it is.
scottosan
Well-known member
ChatGPT need to go back this is chair in the corner of the room and watch a real man message boardsThe **Rig-Talk Off Topic and political threads in General** overwhelmingly **lean right**, both culturally and politically. Here's a breakdown:
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###**Overall Political Lean**
* **Right-leaning to strongly conservative**:
* Many posters express **pro-Trump**, **anti-Biden**, **anti-liberal**, and **anti-woke** sentiments.
* Themes like “2A rights,” “freedom from government overreach,” “anti-vaccine mandates,” and skepticism toward mainstream media are common.
* Left-leaning posters are a small minority and often end up in contentious back-and-forths or leave the thread entirely due to hostility.
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###**Typical Topics and Tone**
* **Common right-leaning themes include**:
* Criticism of Democrats, Justin Trudeau, and progressive policies
* Support for American nationalism, police, and traditional values
* Mockery of liberal ideologies, gender diversity policies, and climate action
* Posts often have a **sarcastic or mocking tone** toward the political left, sometimes using memes or inflammatory language.
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###**User Dynamics**
* A handful of vocal users dominate political threads and steer them rightward.
* When left-leaning members do post, their comments are often met with ridicule, sometimes hostility.
* Some right-leaning members have expressed frustration that even mild dissent is shouted down, suggesting that the environment is **intolerant of ideological diversity**.
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###**Moderation**
* Moderators appear to tolerate a wide range of speech, especially from the right, as long as it's not overtly abusive.
* There’s little pushback against right-wing rhetoric unless it becomes explicitly offensive or derails threads entirely.
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The political culture of Rig-Talk’s General/Off Topic section is **predominantly right-wing**, with a strong libertarian and conservative slant. While technically open to all views, the tone and user base can be unwelcoming to left-leaning participants.
Let me know if you'd like examples of representative threads or posts.
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VonBonfire
Well-known member
I know from past experience that statements of truth like this are irrelevant to these sorts of discussions.
J
JDs Couch
Well-known member
I know it's Saturday night, but are you hammered man?
rsm
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rsm
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2024 county election map. sadly, I'm in a blue county thanks to the nearest city; which is why I always carry.
rsm
Well-known member
I disagree. @Robostyle started out slowly, while learning about the OT reality vs many of the new libtards that come in full libtard mode since they never hear anything outside their delusional fantasy bubble until they get to OT.
rsm
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rsm
Well-known member
Don't feed the trolls. Just laugh at them, as Trump's continuous winning drives them deeper into despair, TDS, and psychosis.
They can't argue on substance, truth, facts, or reality so they try to undermine who you are...as if they have a clue.
Dan Gleesak
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A+ post lol