Working on the next Henning amp design... Thoughts?

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I think all the ideas are Great 40 -50 watts .maybe a bit lower plate voltage or sag switch.

A RAW with that defeats the eq and allows the amp to respond in a more classic hi gain is great.

2 saturation switches one on ch and one on the solo boost master

Small headshell like you mentioned ,maybe with an option of grill like Deizel to keep cost down so you can chose cloth or the punched metal at up charge.

Maybe a bit more gain on the solo master ..

Not sure how feasible but even a reverb ,even if it has to be digital(some sound great)

under 2kis great target .portable cool marshall hot rod sounds
 
If you do single channel, include a Solo level boost that is foot switchable
 
Mesa\Kramer":2uxes2u6 said:
If you do single channel, include a Solo level boost that is foot switchable
Yes, for sure, that is what I wrote in the first post.

Steve
 
rupe":1miye391 said:
How about something with a double power amp design that would allow the player to get a cranked power amp tone at a reasonable volume. Say, have the first power section designed around a single ended EL84 or 6V6 with an onboard load that would allow you to take the cranked amp signal and feed it into a second power section (designed for optimum transparency) that would then serve to drive speaker cabs.

I always wanted to try and design something like that but at my advanced age, taking up tube amp design/building is one of those bucket list items that's likely to remain unchecked.

Check out Tommy Folkesson's mods :) He has been doing that for many years now, and his mods sound KILLER!
 
50 watts, master 2 or solo boost as you mentioned, solid state (suhr) fx loop, external bias. Ch/boost/fx loop all footswitchable. I'll leave the voicings, eq's, etc to the pro :thumbsup: Just make it killer... Like a mutant child of the CB, BE100, PWE... Cheers
 
I'd say (for me anyways) add a simple clean channel. Shared EQ. Just a volume knob.
 
Shawn Lutz":16gcinnn said:
50 watts with 1/2 and 1/4 power selection. 6L6 or El34 option.

^^^^

This plus adding a "voice" switch or a "Fat/Loose" type switch would be huge selling points.

Allows people to have more options, not sure how much extra it would cost or labor involved.

If you did do something like this you could have A and B models, users choice and different price points for each.

Idk just my .02


Edit: Have you thought of a name? I absolutely love the cherries and the visual appeal of the Cherry Bomb. But with another amp I would use a similar design but different fruit.

"Apple Bomb" or maybe the "firecracker" with a bunch of those little black cat firecrackers on the grill.
 
Thinking about it more, I see no reason for 1/2 and 1/4 power options with the PPIMV and channel masters. Simply isn't necessary. Get in the sweet spot you want with the channel masters and adjust the PPIMV from bedroom volume to full out...

Steve
 
maddnotez":kzijzk20 said:
Shawn Lutz":kzijzk20 said:
50 watts with 1/2 and 1/4 power selection. 6L6 or El34 option.

^^^^

This plus adding a "voice" switch or a "Fat/Loose" type switch would be huge selling points.

Allows people to have more options, not sure how much extra it would cost or labor involved.

If you did do something like this you could have A and B models, users choice and different price points for each.

Idk just my .02


Edit: Have you thought of a name? I absolutely love the cherries and the visual appeal of the Cherry Bomb. But with another amp I would use a similar design but different fruit.

"Apple Bomb" or maybe the "firecracker" with a bunch of those little black cat firecrackers on the grill.
I've thought of a name... but I don't want to give it away until this thing is ready. My theme is all fireworks, so apple bomb wouldn't make sense. A cherry bomb is a real firework.

Steve
 
joepete77":kbv44fnh said:
midnightlaundry":kbv44fnh said:
It must be 2xEL34's. EL34's is the sound of rock. You'll get waranty shit from rattling EL84's. You could lower the plate voltage to say like 400V like a Trainwreck to lower the wattage and get more power clip into the sound.

2 channels.

A clean channel that has enough gain to get crunch tones, but can be setup as a clean channel. Maybe something that rolls back and cleans up.

Then nuke mode on channel 2.

Effects loop too, because people are douchy, and need to swamp the tone no matter how awesome it is.
I agree on the el34. I think that single channel but with dual footswitchable masters and gains (with clipping options on each) would be like having a two channel amp and maybe keep cost down a touch.
This is the way I'm going. Two channels defeats the purpose of coming in with a reduced price - I already have the two channel flagship with the Cherry Bomb. Two masters for the one channel, both with three saturation levels and foot switchable.

Steve
 
Qweklain":3053t7q3 said:
How about a MIDI preamp that is (or close) to the Henning?
In the future for sure, but for now, I need and entry level (for boutique hand built in the USA with premium components) full on amp...

Steve
 
Wayniac3":2ngyqddj said:
Single channel would do it for me.. as long as it responds to vol control at the guitar ...
Both the ROD and PLEX channels of the Cherry Bomb clean up beautifully with guitar volume. The clips on my website show that nicely, especially the one with Carl playing in Chubtone's store with a '66 start...

Steve
 
nevusofota":lcx1draf said:
I think the target market should be the guitarist looking for a more portable (smaller) amp that sounds like a 100 watter. I would keep the extra cost and labor of power scaling out of it because the guitarist is going to have larger amps to choose from when needed. I would do single channel 30w with an fx loop. If you don't do the loop then a foot switchable volume boost is needed.
Same series/parallel loop from the Cherry Bomb will be in this amp...

Steve
 
suhrimmetal":2vbtxldp said:
50 watts, master 2 or solo boost as you mentioned, solid state (suhr) fx loop, external bias. Ch/boost/fx loop all footswitchable. I'll leave the voicings, eq's, etc to the pro :thumbsup: Just make it killer... Like a mutant child of the CB, BE100, PWE... Cheers
Tube buffered series/parallel footswitchable (on/off) effects loop will be standard. It's very transparent and includes send and receive level pots...

Steve
 
sah5150":5ixbcnj2 said:
suhrimmetal":5ixbcnj2 said:
50 watts, master 2 or solo boost as you mentioned, solid state (suhr) fx loop, external bias. Ch/boost/fx loop all footswitchable. I'll leave the voicings, eq's, etc to the pro :thumbsup: Just make it killer... Like a mutant child of the CB, BE100, PWE... Cheers
Tube buffered series/parallel footswitchable (on/off) effects loop will be standard. It's very transparent and includes send and receive level pots...

Steve

Sounds good to me Steve :thumbsup: Anxious to see what you come up with. Cheers and all the best

ps.. finally picked up a custom shop charvel..... an amazing machine!! very impressed and a guitar you can 'dig into' if you know what I mean
 
sah5150":10ziuf0p said:
joepete77":10ziuf0p said:
midnightlaundry":10ziuf0p said:
It must be 2xEL34's. EL34's is the sound of rock. You'll get waranty shit from rattling EL84's. You could lower the plate voltage to say like 400V like a Trainwreck to lower the wattage and get more power clip into the sound.

2 channels.

A clean channel that has enough gain to get crunch tones, but can be setup as a clean channel. Maybe something that rolls back and cleans up.

Then nuke mode on channel 2.

Effects loop too, because people are douchy, and need to swamp the tone no matter how awesome it is.
I agree on the el34. I think that single channel but with dual footswitchable masters and gains (with clipping options on each) would be like having a two channel amp and maybe keep cost down a touch.
This is the way I'm going. Two channels defeats the purpose of coming in with a reduced price - I already have the two channel flagship with the Cherry Bomb. Two masters for the one channel, both with three saturation levels and foot switchable.

Steve
I think that that sounds like a great idea steve. I agree about not needing half power switch etc, like u said, with a good ppimv you don't need it.
 
What kind of time frame are you thinking on this one ?

will it possibly be available before year end??
 
I'm liking your ideas.
An SL68 with a loop (as they won't do one), with a solo volume boost, at an affordable price would hit the mark for me.
It is a busy market this one, but not yet been nailed to my taste.
 
gtr31":2v8zx4g1 said:
What kind of time frame are you thinking on this one ?

will it possibly be available before year end??
At first, I didn't think it would be, but now I think I can make it happen by year end… Already well into the design… Just waiting for the custom transformers from Mercury Magnetics to finish the mechanical stuff…

So here is what we're thinking:

50 watt power amp (EL34 based)
DC heaters
Single channel (customer chooses either my PLEX or ROD channel from the Cherry Bomb) and a single board can implement either design
Two footswitchable masters (Regular and Solo), each with 3 way saturation switch
Series/Parallel switchable Tube buffered EFX Loop with independent Send and Receive pots (can be footswitched in/out of the circuit)
New 3 way "Bright" switch
Replacing Density control with a Resonance control
External Bias points and adjustment
Overall Master (PPIMV)
No line out (I figure people can use the Suhr Iso Line out box if they need one)…
Price $1850-1999 (TBA, of course!)

Steve
 
sah5150":15j4pbj2 said:
gtr31":15j4pbj2 said:
What kind of time frame are you thinking on this one ?

will it possibly be available before year end??
At first, I didn't think it would be, but now I think I can make it happen by year end… Already well into the design… Just waiting for the custom transformers from Mercury Magnetics to finish the mechanical stuff…

So here is what we're thinking:

50 watt power amp
DC heaters
Single channel (customer chooses either my PLEX or ROD channel from the Cherry Bomb) and a single board can implement either design
Two footswitchable masters (Regular and Solo), each with 3 way saturation switch
Series/Parallel switchable Tube buffered EFX Loop with independent Send and Receive pots (can be footswitched in/out of the circuit)
New "Bright" switch
Replacing Density control with a Resonance control
External Bias points and adjustment
Overall Master (PPIMV)
No line out (I figure people can use the Suhr Iso Line out box if they need one)…
Price $1850-1999 (TBA, of course!)

Steve
Sounds like the perfect amp, can't wait to see this thing come to life!
 
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