Working on the next Henning amp design... Thoughts?

[suhrimmetal]

Oh Yeah.... I like the 'final' thoughts. Can't wait to see the progress and end result. Definitely interested

 

[Anonymous]

Sounds like the perfect amp, can't wait to see this thing come to life!

Oh Yeah.... I like the 'final' thoughts. Can't wait to see the progress and end result. Definitely interested

I'll keep everybody updated with the design process and as I get a prototype built…

Steve

 

[gibson5413]

What kind of time frame are you thinking on this one ?

will it possibly be available before year end??

At first, I didn't think it would be, but now I think I can make it happen by year end… Already well into the design… Just waiting for the custom transformers from Mercury Magnetics to finish the mechanical stuff…

So here is what we're thinking:

50 watt power amp (EL34 based)
DC heaters
Single channel (customer chooses either my PLEX or ROD channel from the Cherry Bomb) and a single board can implement either design
Two footswitchable masters (Regular and Solo), each with 3 way saturation switch
Series/Parallel switchable Tube buffered EFX Loop with independent Send and Receive pots (can be footswitched in/out of the circuit)
New "Bright" switch
Replacing Density control with a Resonance control
External Bias points and adjustment
Overall Master (PPIMV)
No line out (I figure people can use the Suhr Iso Line out box if they need one)…
Price $1850-1999 (TBA, of course!)

Steve

This is exciting!! Please let me know when you are ready to go as I would like to be on the top of the list. I would like to chat with you on the phone as it gets closer about it.

 

[Anonymous]

What kind of time frame are you thinking on this one ?

will it possibly be available before year end??

At first, I didn't think it would be, but now I think I can make it happen by year end… Already well into the design… Just waiting for the custom transformers from Mercury Magnetics to finish the mechanical stuff…

So here is what we're thinking:

50 watt power amp (EL34 based)
DC heaters
Single channel (customer chooses either my PLEX or ROD channel from the Cherry Bomb) and a single board can implement either design
Two footswitchable masters (Regular and Solo), each with 3 way saturation switch
Series/Parallel switchable Tube buffered EFX Loop with independent Send and Receive pots (can be footswitched in/out of the circuit)
New "Bright" switch
Replacing Density control with a Resonance control
External Bias points and adjustment
Overall Master (PPIMV)
No line out (I figure people can use the Suhr Iso Line out box if they need one)…
Price $1850-1999 (TBA, of course!)

Steve

This is exciting!! Please let me know when you are ready to go as I would like to be on the top of the list. I would like to chat with you on the phone as it gets closer about it.

You can call the number on my website any time, Chad! I'll keep everyone up to date with developments...

Steve

 

[Tone Monster]

A sweepable mid control always seems interesting... Not sure of any technical hurdles or circuit compromises that it would cause.

 

[chumbucket]

How about something with a double power amp design that would allow the player to get a cranked power amp tone at a reasonable volume. Say, have the first power section designed around a single ended EL84 or 6V6 with an onboard load that would allow you to take the cranked amp signal and feed it into a second power section (designed for optimum transparency) that would then serve to drive speaker cabs.

I always wanted to try and design something like that but at my advanced age, taking up tube amp design/building is one of those bucket list items that's likely to remain unchecked.

I think that idea was patented by Guytron.
http://www.guytron.com/#!gt100-amplifier/chzp

 

[ke2]

How about something with a double power amp design that would allow the player to get a cranked power amp tone at a reasonable volume. Say, have the first power section designed around a single ended EL84 or 6V6 with an onboard load that would allow you to take the cranked amp signal and feed it into a second power section (designed for optimum transparency) that would then serve to drive speaker cabs.

I always wanted to try and design something like that but at my advanced age, taking up tube amp design/building is one of those bucket list items that's likely to remain unchecked.

Tommy Folkesson's design is similar to this, although I believe he used/s a 12ax or 12at7 tube in the "first" power amp.

 

[TrueTone500]

How about something with a double power amp design that would allow the player to get a cranked power amp tone at a reasonable volume. Say, have the first power section designed around a single ended EL84 or 6V6 with an onboard load that would allow you to take the cranked amp signal and feed it into a second power section (designed for optimum transparency) that would then serve to drive speaker cabs.

I always wanted to try and design something like that but at my advanced age, taking up tube amp design/building is one of those bucket list items that's likely to remain unchecked.

I think that idea was patented by Guytron.
http://www.guytron.com/#!gt100-amplifier/chzp

You are correct.

I really liked the amp that (I assume) was/is the prototype to the Cherry Bomb. If I'm thinking of the same amp, it looked like a modified Marshall Plexi. Great sounding amp!

 

[Deleted member 13074]

I'd jump at this:
A pukka Jose Arredondo circuit with your other propositions for loop/masters etc.
I don't believe this has been taken up by another maker as yet.
Perhaps there is an ethical reason.

 

[gtr31]

Any more news or updates you could share on this one Steve??

 

[TrueTone500]

How about a Henning AC30 inspired circuit? Love the EL84 glass!

 

[ubermetaldood]

The new design seems great and all but if they aren't going to be readily available for purchase then I'm not interested. It's been 3 months and counting for my Friedman and I'll never get stuck in that position again. Builders always have excuses like "We had to find a new cab maker" or "Prices on x component went up" or "We're waiting on x component to come in." It's just lame. I don't get those kinds of excuses in my job so I have little tolerance for hearing them. Don't get people hyped up just to let them down.

However, if you can meet that prerequisite, and at a good price like you propose, then I'm all for it. Let see some prototype pics and hear some audio samples and go from there.

 

[Anonymous]

Any more news or updates you could share on this one Steve??

Sure! The custom transformers from Mercury just shipped yesterday - took a few weeks longer than expected to get my spec in a 50 watt set, but they are on the way now. The schematics are done - next is mechanical design of the chassis and design of the dual PCB that will support either a PLEX or ROD channel implementation (customers choice) in a single board. I'll get a test chassis fabricated, Rev 1 boards built and then and build the prototype...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

The new design seems great and all but if they aren't going to be readily available for purchase then I'm not interested. It's been 3 months and counting for my Friedman and I'll never get stuck in that position again. Builders always have excuses like "We had to find a new cab maker" or "Prices on x component went up" or "We're waiting on x component to come in." It's just lame. I don't get those kinds of excuses in my job so I have little tolerance for hearing them. Don't get people hyped up just to let them down.

However, if you can meet that prerequisite, and at a good price like you propose, then I'm all for it. Let see some prototype pics and hear some audio samples and go from there.

I totally understand what you are saying, but you are talking to the wrong guy. I only sell from stock that is built and ready to ship, first come, first served - if there is no stock on my website, I'm sold out and building more. I've never taken orders/deposits for amps that aren't built and never will. I've been the victim of long wait times in the past myself and I won't do it to my customers. I've never let anyone down who has bought one of my amps, because if you buy from me it ships the next business day.

Steve

 

[maddnotez]

The new design seems great and all but if they aren't going to be readily available for purchase then I'm not interested. It's been 3 months and counting for my Friedman and I'll never get stuck in that position again. Builders always have excuses like "We had to find a new cab maker" or "Prices on x component went up" or "We're waiting on x component to come in." It's just lame. I don't get those kinds of excuses in my job so I have little tolerance for hearing them. Don't get people hyped up just to let them down.

However, if you can meet that prerequisite, and at a good price like you propose, then I'm all for it. Let see some prototype pics and hear some audio samples and go from there.

I totally understand what you are saying, but you are talking to the wrong guy. I only sell from stock that is built and ready to ship, first come, first served - if there is no stock on my website, I'm sold out and building more. I've never taken orders/deposits for amps that aren't built and never will. I've been the victim of long wait times in the past myself and I won't do it to my customers. I've never let anyone down who has bought one of my amps, because if you buy from me it ships the next business day.

Steve

+1

 

[JerEvil]

The new design seems great and all but if they aren't going to be readily available for purchase then I'm not interested. It's been 3 months and counting for my Friedman and I'll never get stuck in that position again. Builders always have excuses like "We had to find a new cab maker" or "Prices on x component went up" or "We're waiting on x component to come in." It's just lame. I don't get those kinds of excuses in my job so I have little tolerance for hearing them. Don't get people hyped up just to let them down.

However, if you can meet that prerequisite, and at a good price like you propose, then I'm all for it. Let see some prototype pics and hear some audio samples and go from there.

I totally understand what you are saying, but you are talking to the wrong guy. I only sell from stock that is built and ready to ship, first come, first served - if there is no stock on my website, I'm sold out and building more. I've never taken orders/deposits for amps that aren't built and never will. I've been the victim of long wait times in the past myself and I won't do it to my customers. I've never let anyone down who has bought one of my amps, because if you buy from me it ships the next business day.

Steve

+2!!!

I've been in the "waiting for a custom build" scenario and it can get rediculous. Mine took 2.5 years and killed it for me.

I'm very excited to hear the prototype.

 

[MIchbiking]

The new design seems great and all but if they aren't going to be readily available for purchase then I'm not interested. It's been 3 months and counting for my Friedman and I'll never get stuck in that position again. Builders always have excuses like "We had to find a new cab maker" or "Prices on x component went up" or "We're waiting on x component to come in." It's just lame. I don't get those kinds of excuses in my job so I have little tolerance for hearing them. Don't get people hyped up just to let them down.

However, if you can meet that prerequisite, and at a good price like you propose, then I'm all for it. Let see some prototype pics and hear some audio samples and go from there.

I totally understand what you are saying, but you are talking to the wrong guy. I only sell from stock that is built and ready to ship, first come, first served - if there is no stock on my website, I'm sold out and building more. I've never taken orders/deposits for amps that aren't built and never will. I've been the victim of long wait times in the past myself and I won't do it to my customers. I've never let anyone down who has bought one of my amps, because if you buy from me it ships the next business day.

Steve

+2!!!

I've been in the "waiting for a custom build" scenario and it can get rediculous. Mine took 2.5 years and killed it for me.

I'm very excited to hear the prototype.

+3

 

[NewWorldMan]

I'm surprised that more modern amps aren't incorporating some sort of "Punch" control for attenuating low end (as found on Larry's amps, the the Fortin NATAS/Randalls, etc). With the popularity of all the "djent" styles, and with everyone and their brother using OD pedals to reduce low end and tighten up amps, it seems like it would be a no-brainer to have one for the low end, whether you had a "Bite" type control for the top end or not.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm surprised that more modern amps aren't incorporating some sort of "Punch" control for attenuating low end (as found on Larry's amps, the the Fortin NATAS/Randalls, etc). With the popularity of all the "djent" styles, and with everyone and their brother using OD pedals to reduce low end and tighten up amps, it seems like it would be a no-brainer to have one for the low end, whether you had a "Bite" type control for the top end or not.

"Punch" = my Resonance control so we're covered here... My Density control also has this effect on the low end, although the Resonance will be more pronounced...

Steve

 

[Variable]

How about something with a double power amp design that would allow the player to get a cranked power amp tone at a reasonable volume. Say, have the first power section designed around a single ended EL84 or 6V6 with an onboard load that would allow you to take the cranked amp signal and feed it into a second power section (designed for optimum transparency) that would then serve to drive speaker cabs.

I always wanted to try and design something like that but at my advanced age, taking up tube amp design/building is one of those bucket list items that's likely to remain unchecked.

Guy Hedricks did this in the late 90s early 2000s with the Guytron GT-100. It's an EL84 18watt Marshall/Vox style design into a dummy load, sonically amplified by a totally clean 100watt EL34 power section. It has Gain and Tone for each channel, and a TMB post-eq in the power section.

It's actually patented, so not sure you could do the same thing without licensing fees, though that also means you can find the schematic on the US Patent website if you wanted to attempt building one yourself. Sounds fantastic, by the way, one of the best guitar amps I've ever played.