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Good stuff! Bring the vids :rock:

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Yeow! Hope I get my notice soon! How did they tell you your number was up, etc? i.e. I signed up for the list but havent heard anything for months.


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Nope......guys on the waiting list have been getting order invites for about a week now

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Awesome! Can't wait to hear your thoughts. Let us know how easy it is to tweak and set up.

Is there a PC/Mac patch editor for the FX8 on the way? Or can you use Axe-Edit?


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Wow, this has been a LONG time coming from Fractal. I wasn't sure we'd ever see them! Glad you got yours. Looking forward to seeing/hearing your vids. :thumbsup:

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Man, I'll tell you what.....Axe-Edit is what every modeling interface should be like. It's effective, easy to navigate and works. This should be great for users.

HNGadgetD RC....hope it's as cool as you want it to be.

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Sounds great! What guitar is that?

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^ sounds great! what is the signal chain there?

Wish we had something like this 20 years ago, so heavily down the pedal route that it would be tough to back out to the fx8.

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This thing is AMAZING! So inspired :D


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This thing is AMAZING! So inspired :D



Sounds great Alex...def worth 1300? i'd be willing to spend for what looks like a BUNCH of features, specs and flexibility with the computer interface etc.


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Wish we had something like this 20 years ago, so heavily down the pedal route that it would be tough to back out to the fx8.

I thought the same thing, but once these recent amazing devices came out I jumped it with both feet. Sold all my pedals and I don't miss that board at all.

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This thing looks awesome! I'm sure there's a lot under the hood. Can't wait to see more demos.


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How are the ambient verb/delay settings? I really think I want one of these.

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how do you like the overdrives and distortions? I know everything else is awesome from owning an ultra back in the day,

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I want to know how it sounds in 4 cable method. I'm on the waiting list for this thing but I do not really care for the layout. It's similar to the MFC-101 controller for the Axe Fx and my big ass feet don't gel with the tiny buttons on it. I'm always hitting two buttons together. Gonna be hard for me to turn away from my G-System's.

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I want... but am willing to wait several years until I can get one used for sub-$1K. $800ish would be a definite for me.

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[...] It's similar to the MFC-101 controller for the Axe Fx and my big ass feet don't gel with the tiny buttons on it. I'm always hitting two buttons together. Gonna be hard for me to turn away from my G-System's.

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Can it do the 4CM setup without adding noise and killing an amps tone?

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Can it do the 4CM setup without adding noise and killing an amps tone?

I sure as hell HOPE so. Is that an issue with the Axe? Not sarcasm by the way.

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Can it do the 4CM setup without adding noise and killing an amps tone?

I sure as hell HOPE so. Is that an issue with the Axe? Not sarcasm by the way.


It was with the AxeFX Ultra and II I had and the weird thing it was worse with the II. No amount of isolation or hum eliminators would fix it. Jay Mitchell actually said in the past it was a design flaw but who knows. All I know is the noise 4CM with those units was something I couldn't handle and should never be an issue with a unit at the price. Now I think with new units like the XL.... it's supposedly been addressed.

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Can it do the 4CM setup without adding noise and killing an amps tone?

I sure as hell HOPE so. Is that an issue with the Axe? Not sarcasm by the way.


It was with the AxeFX Ultra and II I had and the weird thing it was worse with the II. No amount of isolation or hum eliminators would fix it. Jay Mitchell actually said in the past it was a design flaw but who knows. All I know is the noise 4CM with those units was something I couldn't handle and should never be an issue with a unit at the price. Now I think with new units like the XL.... it's supposedly been addressed.

That's lame! So the current "II's" still have the issue though?

I am thinking that knowing guys may ditch their Strymons and Eventides for the FX8 they will have addressed the issue but who knows.

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JerEvil wrote:
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Can it do the 4CM setup without adding noise and killing an amps tone?

I sure as hell HOPE so. Is that an issue with the Axe? Not sarcasm by the way.


It was with the AxeFX Ultra and II I had and the weird thing it was worse with the II. No amount of isolation or hum eliminators would fix it. Jay Mitchell actually said in the past it was a design flaw but who knows. All I know is the noise 4CM with those units was something I couldn't handle and should never be an issue with a unit at the price. Now I think with new units like the XL.... it's supposedly been addressed.

That's lame! So the current "II's" still have the issue though?

I am thinking that knowing guys may ditch their Strymons and Eventides for the FX8 they will have addressed the issue but who knows.


The FX8 has no such issues

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JerEvil wrote:
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Can it do the 4CM setup without adding noise and killing an amps tone?

I sure as hell HOPE so. Is that an issue with the Axe? Not sarcasm by the way.


It was with the AxeFX Ultra and II I had and the weird thing it was worse with the II. No amount of isolation or hum eliminators would fix it. Jay Mitchell actually said in the past it was a design flaw but who knows. All I know is the noise 4CM with those units was something I couldn't handle and should never be an issue with a unit at the price. Now I think with new units like the XL.... it's supposedly been addressed.

That's lame! So the current "II's" still have the issue though?

I am thinking that knowing guys may ditch their Strymons and Eventides for the FX8 they will have addressed the issue but who knows.


Not sure about the new ones since I've not been interesting in using an AxeFX in a good while but I did read they addressed it. It was supposedly addressed with the II with these special cables Fractal was saying to use. I had some of those as well and they didn't work. I've run 4CM for a good while and know how to deal with ground loop hum and never had a problem getting rid of it. Again ironically units like the Line 6 M13, POD HD500, and my current GSP 1101 I've not had to use a hum eliminator unless I've played rooms where it was needed.

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Can it do the 4CM setup without adding noise and killing an amps tone?

I sure as hell HOPE so. Is that an issue with the Axe? Not sarcasm by the way.


It was with the AxeFX Ultra and II I had and the weird thing it was worse with the II. No amount of isolation or hum eliminators would fix it. Jay Mitchell actually said in the past it was a design flaw but who knows. All I know is the noise 4CM with those units was something I couldn't handle and should never be an issue with a unit at the price. Now I think with new units like the XL.... it's supposedly been addressed.

That's lame! So the current "II's" still have the issue though?

I am thinking that knowing guys may ditch their Strymons and Eventides for the FX8 they will have addressed the issue but who knows.


The FX8 has no such issues


Thanks for the info Scott.

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Can it do the 4CM setup without adding noise and killing an amps tone?

I sure as hell HOPE so. Is that an issue with the Axe? Not sarcasm by the way.


It was with the AxeFX Ultra and II I had and the weird thing it was worse with the II. No amount of isolation or hum eliminators would fix it. Jay Mitchell actually said in the past it was a design flaw but who knows. All I know is the noise 4CM with those units was something I couldn't handle and should never be an issue with a unit at the price. Now I think with new units like the XL.... it's supposedly been addressed.


I had no problems using 4CM with my Ultra or II. In fact, the II was pretty much unnoticeable using 4CM - I made my own humbuster cables and used it with my Ecstasy. I've never had another unit work as well in 4CM as the II - none of the Boss or Line 6 units worked as well and neither did the G-System. The Ultra was second best - even without the humbuster stuff it was better than the G-System and the others.


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That's lame! So the current "II's" still have the issue though?

I am thinking that knowing guys may ditch their Strymons and Eventides for the FX8 they will have addressed the issue but who knows.


I have an original II and never had a single problem running 4CM.


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Can it do the 4CM setup without adding noise and killing an amps tone?

I sure as hell HOPE so. Is that an issue with the Axe? Not sarcasm by the way.


It was with the AxeFX Ultra and II I had and the weird thing it was worse with the II. No amount of isolation or hum eliminators would fix it. Jay Mitchell actually said in the past it was a design flaw but who knows. All I know is the noise 4CM with those units was something I couldn't handle and should never be an issue with a unit at the price. Now I think with new units like the XL.... it's supposedly been addressed.


I had no problems using 4CM with my Ultra or II. In fact, the II was pretty much unnoticeable using 4CM - I made my own humbuster cables and used it with my Ecstasy. I've never had another unit work as well in 4CM as the II - none of the Boss or Line 6 units worked as well and neither did the G-System. The Ultra was second best - even without the humbuster stuff it was better than the G-System and the others.


I wasn't the only one that had issues with the II. At that time the fix "limited bandwidth"......... :confused:

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... ?t=1033646

Anyway I've read they addressed it and I'd assume especially after releasing a product specifically for 4CM that have worked it out.

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I wasn't the only one that had issues with the II. At that time the fix "limited bandwidth"......... :confused:

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... ?t=1033646

Anyway I've read they addressed it and I'd assume especially after releasing a product specifically for 4CM that have worked it out.


The very early Axe-Fx II's had more bandwidth than necessary on Output 2. The frequency response extended to hundreds of kHz. When used with certain tube amps this would cause instability in the output drivers. The solution was to limit the bandwidth to a "normal" range of 20 to 20 kHz. We provided the update for free and all units shipped after the first 100 or so had this update included. The Axe-Fx II Mark II, XL and XL+ have a redesigned output circuit that is immune from any of these issues.

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In other words Fractal rules all!!!

They won't be able to keep the FX8 or the upcoming AX8 in stock......eternal waiting lists!

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In other words Fractal rules all!!!

They won't be able to keep the FX8 or the upcoming AX8 in stock......eternal waiting lists!


Thanks for chiming in Scott!

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In other words Fractal rules all!!!

They won't be able to keep the FX8 or the upcoming AX8 in stock......eternal waiting lists!


Thanks for chiming in Scott!


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Buy a Standard or an Ultra if you want 4(SHORT)cm
And short cables = less hum/hiss or radio Breznjev

Besides that it much more flexible/cheaper (with FCB) and update free.
And you can check out if the modelling is 130% better then your amp :lol: :LOL:

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Buy a Standard or an Ultra if you want 4(SHORT)cm
And short cables = less hum/hiss or radio Breznjev

Besides that it much more flexible/cheaper (with FCB) and update free.
And you can check out if the modelling is 130% better then your amp :lol: :LOL:

Got my bit tonesucker Ultra Snax 4cm'd with a EVH 5150 mini and man does this sound good!!!!
(the EVH5150 this is..... not the amp-model-company-lying-shit)


How much does the ultra and a midi foot controller run used?

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Buy a Standard or an Ultra if you want 4(SHORT)cm
And short cables = less hum/hiss or radio Breznjev

Besides that it much more flexible/cheaper (with FCB) and update free.
And you can check out if the modelling is 130% better then your amp :lol: :LOL:

Got my bit tonesucker Ultra Snax 4cm'd with a EVH 5150 mini and man does this sound good!!!!
(the EVH5150 this is..... not the amp-model-company-lying-shit)


How much does the ultra and a midi foot controller run used?


On Ebay $800-$900 and $50 for the FCB

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rack-Mountable- ... 1081363400

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Can it do the 4CM setup without adding noise and killing an amps tone?

I sure as hell HOPE so. Is that an issue with the Axe? Not sarcasm by the way.


It was with the AxeFX Ultra and II I had and the weird thing it was worse with the II. No amount of isolation or hum eliminators would fix it. Jay Mitchell actually said in the past it was a design flaw but who knows. All I know is the noise 4CM with those units was something I couldn't handle and should never be an issue with a unit at the price. Now I think with new units like the XL.... it's supposedly been addressed.


I had no problems using 4CM with my Ultra or II. In fact, the II was pretty much unnoticeable using 4CM - I made my own humbuster cables and used it with my Ecstasy. I've never had another unit work as well in 4CM as the II - none of the Boss or Line 6 units worked as well and neither did the G-System. The Ultra was second best - even without the humbuster stuff it was better than the G-System and the others.


I didn't have the same outcome and I've read plenty of threads on several forums with guys that had the same issue as me. I tried the Axe-2...not the XL. 4CM was a disaster with it, white noise and my amp always sounded better without the Axe. I know it wasn't my amps fault because a crappy Digitech RP1000 worked perfect in 4CM, but it's effects and routing are subpar. But it looks like Fractal has it addressed with the Axe-XL and this new FX8.

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Can it do the 4CM setup without adding noise and killing an amps tone?

I sure as hell HOPE so. Is that an issue with the Axe? Not sarcasm by the way.


It was with the AxeFX Ultra and II I had and the weird thing it was worse with the II. No amount of isolation or hum eliminators would fix it. Jay Mitchell actually said in the past it was a design flaw but who knows. All I know is the noise 4CM with those units was something I couldn't handle and should never be an issue with a unit at the price. Now I think with new units like the XL.... it's supposedly been addressed.


I used a Humdinger in the Fx loop of the amp, but my hum issue wasn't as bad but it got rid of it. I also used an ISP Decimator G string for the front end of the amp and plugged the Axe Fx 2 into the in and out of the Decimator then my guitar into the Decimator and the out into the front end of the amp. It worked great. Did you use the Humbuster cables? I made my own and they worked really well.

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This thing is AMAZING! So inspired :D



Sounds great Alex...def worth 1300? i'd be willing to spend for what looks like a BUNCH of features, specs and flexibility with the computer interface etc.


Think about it...an Eventide H9 is like $500....this is $1,300 and it has EVERYTHING plus you can use 8 pedals at a time and even more if you master "scenes". Some effects also have X/Y capability so it's like being able to switch to another effect using one position. It's all I will ever need. That's for sure.


Have you tried the H9? I have a couple of them on my board and absolutely love them. You want to talk about inspiring....those do the job so well for me. The interface is fantastic with IOS. I do get what you are saying though with everything.....just not a fan of this unit. It would still cost me way too much to import up here with taxes and brokerage fees and most importantly, the lousy exchange rate.

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I've seen a couple things around the interwebz about this, thanks OP for all the info!


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.....just not a fan of this unit. It would still cost me way too much to import up here with taxes and brokerage fees and most importantly, the lousy exchange rate.


And how do these things make you "just not a fan of the unit" ???......you haven't even tried one. All the things you're complaining about are Canada's fault, not the FX8 :lol: :LOL:

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.....just not a fan of this unit. It would still cost me way too much to import up here with taxes and brokerage fees and most importantly, the lousy exchange rate.


And how do these things make you "just not a fan of the unit" ???......you haven't even tried one. All the things you're complaining about are Canada's fault, not the FX8 :lol: :LOL:


AxeFx police to the rescue :lol: :LOL:

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.....just not a fan of this unit. It would still cost me way too much to import up here with taxes and brokerage fees and most importantly, the lousy exchange rate.


And how do these things make you "just not a fan of the unit" ???......you haven't even tried one. All the things you're complaining about are Canada's fault, not the FX8 :lol: :LOL:


AxeFx police to the rescue :lol: :LOL:


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.....just not a fan of this unit. It would still cost me way too much to import up here with taxes and brokerage fees and most importantly, the lousy exchange rate.


And how do these things make you "just not a fan of the unit" ???......you haven't even tried one. All the things you're complaining about are Canada's fault, not the FX8 :lol: :LOL:


I'm a huge Fractal fan but I also realize that if something costs a whole lot more money than I'm willing or able to spend then it's not hard to see not being a fan. I have no idea what the price to Canada will be. But, we all have our limits. Would you be a fan of the FX8 if it were 25% more? 50%? double?


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