I don't dispute those things about EVH AT ALL LOLFind one single person anywhere in any interview who claimed Randy lied or was petty, jealous or a narcissist. Or anything other than a down to earth nice guy. Truckloads of evidence exists proving all that shit was part of who Eddie was.
So, people don't lie?
You're assuming everything you read is true. If that's the case, get back to OT and keep reading all the right wing BS in there and you'll be converted in no time. LOLyou make all the assumptions you want.
I read tons about RR being the nicest guy in the world.
I read a lot of things about EVH that say the opposite.
So what?
It’s pretty widely accepted that RR wasn’t that interested in being huge or famous. He just wanted to be the best guitarist he could be. And he was more interested in classical than rock and roll so it’s not a stretch to assume he might have thought EVH was more flash than substance since to Randy substance probably meant music theory, etc. Lots of people were upset that QR was the number one or two draw on the strip for years yet had no record deal, but no evidence exists to suggest RR was angry about it. He planned to quit ozzy. Hell, he intended to quit when Ozzy fucked over Bob Daisley and was talked out of it by Bob and Lee Kerslake.I don't dispute those things about EVH AT ALL LOL
As for RR... who knows. And again, the guy burned to death in a plane crash, who was going to come out after that and say anything negative ? I'm NOT saying he was an asshole either, but I did read somewhere that he felt EVH was more flash than substance and IDK how wonderful a human being you'd have to be to not feel like he was huge and you weren't (yet), especially given RR's level of music education and dedication to the craft etc.
That was kind of uncalled for brother. So far we haven’t had to deal with political bullshit in this thread. Might be nice to keep it that way right ?You're assuming everything you read is true. If that's the case, get back to OT and keep reading all the right wing BS in there and you'll be converted in no time. LOL
I think it's pretty crazy to think he wouldn't want to be successful as far as money goes, even EVH didn't like the fame angle (does anyone ?) He could take care of his mom, own a home, have a family, etc... who wouldn't want that ? Why get into rock and roll in the first place ?It’s pretty widely accepted that RR wasn’t that interested in being huge or famous. He just wanted to be the best guitarist he could be. And he was more interested in classical than rock and roll so it’s not a stretch to assume he might have thought EVH was more flash than substance since to Randy substance probably meant music theory, etc. Lots of people were upset that QR was the number one or two draw on the strip for years yet had no record deal, but no evidence exists to suggest RR was angry about it. He planned to quit ozzy. Hell, he intended to quit when Ozzy fucked over Bob Daisley and was talked out of it by Bob and Lee Kerslake.
Agreed, Uli, Schenker they didn't have the impact Randy did. Ying Yang wouldn't "really" hit for a few years later. Randy brought this out to the forefront, to the masses. Does that mean he was the best? No, it just mean he got it out first. In my lifetime I've only seen one other guitarist have the impact Randy had on popular music and that was EVH. And of course Ed's impact was universal across all music genre's, a whole massive other scale in terms influence etc...Maybe I should have said he was the first guy to do it very successfully. I'm sure some people knew who Yngwie was in 1981, but EVERYONE knew who Randy was.
I would also argue that Randy did it better than Yngwie and certainly Schenker. Just my opinion I suppose. Don't get me wrong, I am an Yngwie fan, but all his stuff sounds very classical and robotic and Randy's had feel, fit the music and was more melodic.
I'm just pointing out that just because you read something doesn't make it true... believe me, lets keep politics out of it.That was kind of uncalled for brother. So far we haven’t had to deal with political bullshit in this thread. Might be nice to keep it that way right ?
I’m sure he wanted to make a good living at it but improving his skill was the most important thing in the world to him dude. He was taking classical lessons, probably from people with less skill than him, in towns all across the world while he was on tour with Ozzy. The fact that he was willing to throw his big break away to stand on principle over the Daisley firing is proof of that, no ?I think it's pretty crazy to think he wouldn't want to be successful as far as money goes, even EVH didn't like the fame angle (does anyone ?) He could take care of his mom, own a home, have a family, etc... who wouldn't want that ? Why get into rock and roll in the first place ?
I agree with that brother but man, there are shit tons of people all saying the same things about Randy. I mean it’s universal. Absolutely no one has ever said otherwise. Really not even Eddie. Other than the claim he made that Randy admitted learning everything he knew from Eddie ( preposterous) Eddie never had anything bad to say about the guy right ?I'm just pointing out that just because you read something doesn't make it true... believe me, lets keep politics out of it.
I've never heard he wanted to quit Ozzy over Lee & Bob, just that he wanted to do UCLA classical guitar. Not saying it's not true, I've just never heard it. If you believe Ozzy and Sharon (laughable I know), RR didn't want to play with Bob & Lee in the first place, Ozzy said he called them "geeks, how are we going to conquer the world with those two", and then they brought Rudy in, and Tommy.I’m sure he wanted to make a good living at it but improving his skill was the most important thing in the world to him dude. He was taking classical lessons, probably from people with less skill than him, in towns all across the world while he was on tour with Ozzy. The fact that he was willing to throw his big break away to stand on principle over the Daisley firing is proof of that, no ?
You're assuming everything you read is true. If that's the case, get back to OT and keep reading all the right wing BS in there and you'll be converted in no time. LOL
Didn't think I was...Why you gotta be an asshole about it?
Ego and alcohol aren't a good combo.
My apologies then.Didn't think I was...
Fuck ya I'd LOVE to hear about it !My apologies then.
I'm not going to make assumptions about what was in the guys' head.
Unlike today, back in the 80s we had Guitar Player, Guitar World, and Guitar for the Practicing Musician.
I read every single one of them front to back every month. As you can imagine those two guys were
featured all the time.
I can't make assumptions about who did or didn't lie about anything. I'm just relaying what I read.
P.S. Wanna hear about the time I spent a few hours with EVH discussing a potential new speaker product
for his EVH brand? Him, his brother and his lead tech drove down from LA and spent most of the day at our
offices. This would have been around 2010 maybe???
I think a lot of players like Yngwie & Shawn Lane were great players with chops, feel, vibrato and tone (for Yngwie) all going for them, but they just weren’t gifted like Randy or Marty was at actually composing the musical ideas. They shoulda let someone else who was do that part for them and we could’ve had something truly spectacular with quality playing & quality musical content. One can dream…
EVH goes WAY beyond tapping or speed licks (Randy does too of course), and I'd say Randy. Uli, Blackmore, DiMeola, and Schenker probably had as much influence on "shred" guitar as EVH did (maybe more), but as I said before, EVH really transcended just the guitar universe and impacted pop culture, VH was HUGE. Not to mention the WHOLE LA metal genre, EVERYONE ripped EVH off. Humbucker in a strat ? Rip off. Graphic on a guitar ? Rip off. Tapping licks ? Rip off. Modded Marshalls ? Rip off. If you don't agree these things are direct rip offs, at least admit they didn't really exist before EVH made it popular.
Also, if anything, I'd say Randy was more peeved that EVH was more well known/popular than he was than EVH gave a shit about some kid that was in his shadow. Well known QR was very bitter about their lack of an American record deal for their first two releases, and that Randy wanted out of Ozzy despite Ozzy really breaking him nationally.