Did NATO promise Russia never to expand to the east? | DW News

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Nashville Riff Co said:
Here’s a fun game

For those who are pro-Ukraine: what could Ukraine/Zelenskyy do that would make you change your mind and say they’re in the wrong?

For those who are pro-Russia: what could Russia/Putin do that would make you change your mind and say they’re in the wrong?

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Neutral Position: you don’t care about either and just want the US to do nothing with em all.

Would love to see how folks think about that
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This may help.
 
Thumbpicker said:
We don't have any belt and road initiatives here. A Labor Victorian state govt tried that on for size under an infamous Premier called Dan Andrews and the federal govt had it cancelled as far as I know.
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It appears you are correct but the PRC did make an attempt and some inroads. They are buying up property here in the US as well because of the trade imbalance. China is imploding and has ZERO population growth and it's not even caused by the One Child policy from decades ago. They imported another ism that causes demographic suicide.


https://www.ship-technology.com/new...largest-recipient-of-chinese-port-investment/
 
VonBonfire said:
I'm pro invasion of Ukraine. We should pay Russia to remove Zelensky since he is a criminal.
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Yeah but he and the entire country is a product of the US Globalist American Empire which began in 2014 with the color revolution overthrow of a duly elected government followed by 10 years of artillery strikes into the Donbass and Donestk Russian regions of Ukraine. I could fill this page with BBC reports from 2014 forward until 2022 when Putin said enough.
 
Findthetone1 said:
My point being, it's time for these countries to put the big boy pants on and quit sucking on the tit of the US, and time to dispose the of the useless politicians that prey on these countries masquerading as "foreign aid". Globalism is a corrupt disease. If, and when the US politicians can get their shit together enough to right the listing ship known as this country, then maybe helping hands can be extended. Until then, it's time to clean up our own yards first.
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Yeah but he and the entire country is a product of the US Globalist American Empire which began in 2014 with the color revolution overthrow of a duly elected government followed by 8 years of artillery strikes into the Donbass and Donestk Russian regions of Ukraine. I could fill this page with BBC reports from 2014 forward until 2022 when Putin said enough.
 
harddriver said:
Yeah but he and the entire country is a product of the US Globalist American Empire which began in 2014 with the color revolution overthrow of a duly elected government followed by 8 years of artillery strikes into the Donbass and Donestk Russian regions of Ukraine. I could fill this page with BBC reports from 2014 forward until 2022 when Putin said enough.
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I understand that. But I just don't agree with continuing the shit. I also understand Putin's reasoning but I'm not going to wave any flags in this.
 
VonBonfire said:
Typical european mindset thinks we should pay for it all.

Can't wait till you all get cut off. The sooner the better. You're all like bums on the street who thinks we owe you 3 hots and a cot.
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I said I think the Europeans should pay more for defence. So I don't have a European mindset on that. I also think Australia should pay more for defence.
 
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