The Perpetual Reactionary Plan of the Keyboard Warrior Beta Male

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Dan Gleesak said:
Only one book that I know of they attempted to ban in a school district near me and it was an absolute shit show. Gender Queer I think it was called. I can’t say I’ve read it, but what I’ve seen people complain about are things that I think could be beneficial for those seeking it out.

Back to the original point in all this; if it was part of the curriculum. If kids were told to read it to pass, I could understand some outrage.
For it simply being a resource for those looking for it, I think it is very beneficial. Teachers aren’t handing it out for homework.

There are a lot of students who are gay, think they might be gay, have gay parents or family members etc, you get where I’m going, and given some of the responses in this very thread, it’s easy to see why they may be uncomfortable talking about it with people, possibly their own parents.

I can’t imagine any scenario where anyone would want their kid learning about something like this on the internet instead of a published and screened book.

Not everyone has to like it, but that doesn’t mean it should be available to others that might benefit from it
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The last thing young kids should be thinking about is whether they are gay or not. They should be thinking about math and spelling and grammar and science etc.
Any sexual stuff should be taught at home, not by government schools
Just Imho
 
Bad Brain said:
Derpy derpy derp, I have a smooth brain and I'm going for biggest dipshit on the forum.
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Dan Gleesak said:
Derpity derp derp derp that biggest dipshit title is mine.
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Robostyle said:
The last thing young kids should be thinking about is whether they are gay or not. They should be thinking about math and spelling and grammar and science etc.
Any sexual stuff should be taught at home, not by government schools
Just Imho
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I somewhat agree, but the thoughts and confusion come first, and then they look for answers.
Is it that people think kids the are “normal”, and then they read this book and it makes them reconsider? I don’t think many people are taking it off the shelf for a casual read and then have their minds blown. It’s meant for kids that have nowhere else to go to.

I mean you bring up me being in Berkshires, there are states where kids are old enough to get married or legally have sex, yet people are up in arms that the same aged children are reading about sex in books. Seems pretty weird to me.
 
When I was growing up, we got the internet when I was in like 8th grade, and I was one of the first ones I knew of that had it. And at that time, “the internet” was the family computer you went to and had to get off when your mom wanted to make a phone call.

Kids today have the internet in their pockets. Any information that want, or don’t want is at their disposal 24/7. I know if my girls had questions about something, if they couldn’t ask me about it, I’d sure as shit prefer they get information from the library and not google. Just look at the shit people post here lol
 
So in conclusion, I understand why some people take offense to what is in some of the books. That is fine. The problem is that they think because it’s offensive to them, that no one else should have the choice to consume it.
Ironically, it is those types of attitudes that created the need for this type of information to be available in the first place.

And now the grill is calling my name.

Later fags
 
Dan Gleesak said:
When I was growing up, we got the internet when I was in like 8th grade, and I was one of the first ones I knew of that had it. And at that time, “the internet” was the family computer you went to and had to get off when your mom wanted to make a phone call.

Kids today have the internet in their pockets. Any information that want, or don’t want is at their disposal 24/7. I know if my girls had questions about something, if they couldn’t ask me about it, I’d sure as shit prefer they get information from the library and not google. Just look at the shit people post here lol
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Can’t parents put safeguards in place to prevent kids from going to certain places on the internet?
 
I'm not going to copy paste replies so I'll just say that IMO it is NOT normal to be gay Dan - like you say. But if you are gay, that's your prerogative. If they search for it on their phone there is only so much we can, as parents, do to deal with that. But books about how to suck dick in a grade school library is weird and abnormal to me. IIRC - we talked about this a year or so ago and such a book was the topic of discussion. My wife and I decided as parents that 12 was the appropriate age for our boys to get their own cell phones. We had policy for the first few years that we could grab their phone at any time and look at history, pics, convos whatever. We only did that a few times and they were in more extreme cases. I would never proactive spy on my kids.

Remember, we can't survive if we are not the fittest. Gay men can't have babies. Gay women can't have babies. If they want to hook up on some same sex action that's on them for the privacy of their one homes.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
I somewhat agree, but the thoughts and confusion come first, and then they look for answers.
Is it that people think kids the are “normal”, and then they read this book and it makes them reconsider? I don’t think many people are taking it off the shelf for a casual read and then have their minds blown. It’s meant for kids that have nowhere else to go to.

I mean you bring up me being in Berkshires, there are states where kids are old enough to get married or legally have sex, yet people are up in arms that the same aged children are reading about sex in books. Seems pretty weird to me.
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What states and what age ? Because I don’t think anyone is talking about 17 and 18 year olds as children.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Who said it was ? You gonna answer my question?
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I answered it in another post. I named a book that I know of that was banned or was attempted to be, and I I stated my feelings on it in great detail over several posts
 
Dan Gleesak said:
I answered it in another post. I named a book that I know of that was banned or was attempted to be, and I I stated my feelings on it in great detail over several posts
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Well I was talking about a different question, which you kind of answered in the previous post.

I am curious if you support controlling what children in elementary school have access to ? If so, at what age or in what grade do you think that practice should end ?
 
Dan Gleesak said:
These books aren’t in elementary schools bro
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The book I am referring to was in an elementary school by the way. Supposedly anyway. And it graphically described oral sex.

I also disagree that describing gay sex is no different than describing regular sex to pre-pubescent children. Even pre-pubescent children know that normally men marry women. Books or people who try to manipulate children into thinking they have a choice to be gay or not to be gay are most definitely not helping the cause of kids who turn out to actually be gay.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Well I was talking about a different question, which you kind of answered in the previous post.

I am curious if you support controlling what children in elementary school have access to ? If so, at what age or in what grade do you think that practice should end ?
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Of course I think there should be different material for different age groups. It’s not just sex, but it’s why they don’t teach students details of the slavery and the holocaust in kindergarten. The kids aren’t ready to process it.
I do however think that a book, that was written as a memoir about growing up non binary, is perfectly acceptable for students old enough to think that they are growing up non binary. It wasn’t meant to be an introduction to queer culture, it was meant to be a single representation for kids that probably feel that they have zero representation. The author even said it should be for 16 years old or so and up. High schoolers.

If people are worried their kid is gonna thumb through a couple hundred pages of this book looking for a single frame of a dude getting a blow job, then that’s on them. But In my opinion, that’s retarded.

But while we are on the topic, it’s a very different world out there now. “Sex Ed” is taught at a pretty young age in many areas. Not the sex ed you and I grew up with. They aren’t putting condoms on cucumbers and learning about STDs, but are learning what is inappropriate in a world full of pedophiles and shitheads. its more than just not taking candy from a van. Its about learning consent and boundaries and that’s ok to tell your dad that his friend “Uncle Dave” makes you uncomfortable.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
Of course I think there should be different material for different age groups. It’s not just sex, but it’s why they don’t teach students details of the slavery and the holocaust in kindergarten. The kids aren’t ready to process it.
I do however think that a book, that was written as a memoir about growing up non binary, is perfectly acceptable for students old enough to think that they are growing up non binary. It wasn’t meant to be an introduction to queer culture, it was meant to be a single representation for kids that probably feel that they have zero representation. The author even said it should be for 16 years old or so and up. High schoolers.

If people are worried their kid is gonna thumb through a couple hundred pages of this book looking for a single frame of a dude getting a blow job, then that’s on them. But In my opinion, that’s retarded.

But while we are on the topic, it’s a very different world out there now. “Sex Ed” is taught at a pretty young age in many areas. Not the sex ed you and I grew up with. They aren’t putting condoms on cucumbers and learning about STDs, but are learning what is inappropriate in a world full of pedophiles and shitheads. its more than just not taking candy from a van. Its about learning consent and boundaries and that’s ok to tell your dad that his friend “Uncle Dave” makes you uncomfortable.
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I haven't heard of the book you are describing and the situation you are describing isn't something I would personally be opposed to. I also never saw the book I was describing and have no link to support the situation I described ever happened. Furthermore I'm pretty sure it came from that mother's group that was making all that hoopla a year or two back. So I'm not suggesting any course of action or any book banning. I am saying that a 5th or 6th grader should not have access in school to books that describe blow jobs in detail, IF that is actually happening.
 
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