If Fender moves manufacturing from CA to Arizona.....

Would you blame Fender for moving manufacturing from CA to Arizona?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • No

    Votes: 44 93.6%

  • Total voters
    47
Lived in the Peninsula in NorCal for several years and loved it. Shared an apartment with some pretty strange people for a bit but eh, live and let live and it's all fine.

Moved out for a 1-year job and was sure I'd be back, but it never happened. Housing is just too expensive.

Just visited both LA and the SF area again. Still love it in both places. SF in particular was much nicer than I'd heard it was supposed to be these days.

Thing I miss most is that SF area Craigslist haha. Man there is always killer guitar gear listed.
 
I would think AZ would be the natural choice, since Fender already has a good footprint in Scottsdale. Real estate is no longer cheap in the Phoenix area, but the state is very business friendly.
Not to mention, there is a whole lot of nothing between Phoenix and Tucson.. and conveniently located on I-10
 
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Would their moving to another state affect the building materials?

Would moving bring down the prices or keep them the same or raise prices?

How can we benefit if they moved?
 
I wouldn't expect prices to fall, unless we see deflation in the entire economy (unlikely, given the Fed's love for inflation and fear of recessions). It might just allow them to keep production in America, as keeping production in Fullerton is not going to be sustainable.
 
Because it’s really a flu shot that’s been modified.
Wouldn't that make it a vaccine then? A modified vaccine is still likely a vaccine.
Aside from that, what makes the covid shot a flu shot? We now can make MUCH faster and more targeted flu vaccines because of the mRNA tech used to make the covid vaccine, but I'm not aware in any way of it being the other way around. ANCIENT pre computer model tech was used as a proof of concept forever ago to test mRNA as a system, and standard lab assays like for flu were used in that, the same way as any other type of vaccine, but its not like they took some pre DAW era shot and made a few tweaks to it to make the covid vaccine. Even the old mRNA rabies vaccine was not made that way
You get a polio vaccine, you don’t get polio.
That's not true at all, vaccine derived polio is the reason for the rift with major donors like the Gates Foundation to switch to IPV like we use in the US

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/vaccine-derived-poliovirus-faq.html

https://apnews.com/article/health-u...ational-news-7d8b0e32efd0480fbd12acf27729f6a5

"More polio cases now caused by vaccine than by wild virus"​

 
Would their moving to another state affect the building materials?

Would moving bring down the prices or keep them the same or raise prices?

How can we benefit if they moved?
The only thing that might be a higher expense would be being further from the seaports.

I assume many parts and materials come from across the Pacific.

But everything else, labor costs, utilities, regulations, etc.. should be much less expensive.
 
Ahh, the good times are back, replete with vaccine debates and California bashin'...ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Rig-Talk back to the stage! LOL

I love this forum. Have fun. LOL
 
Ahh, the good times are back, replete with vaccine debates and California bashin'...ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Rig-Talk back to the stage! LOL

I love this forum. Have fun. LOL
Rig Talk, where truth is told, and liberals cry.

I feel for you bro, I don't know how you do it.
 
I mean QC and the way guitars and amps are made now out of Corona California are excellent and quality has never been better……







Maybe its best Fender keeps production in CA and in Corona :dunno:
 
I mean QC and the way guitars and amps are made now out of Corona California are excellent and quality has never been better……







Maybe its best Fender keeps production in CA and in Corona :dunno:
Fender could cut it's suggest list prices by 25% by just moving to another state. And then they would closer to the actual value.
 
Fender could cut it's suggest list prices by 25% by just moving to another state. And then they would closer to the actual value.
This is true but Quality Control matters and that is not cheap or grows on trees.


CA may have higher taxes and everything but when it comes to quality very few places are as tight or can consistently deliver higher standards.


May as well keep it in Corona vs potentially sacrificing on quality.
 
This is true but Quality Control matters and that is not cheap or grows on trees.


CA may have higher taxes and everything but when it comes to quality very few places are as tight or can consistently deliver higher standards.


May as well keep it in Corona vs potentially sacrificing on quality.
Workers in CA need to get paid more because of the high cost of living. That by itself is a big expense.
 
This is true but Quality Control matters and that is not cheap or grows on trees.


CA may have higher taxes and everything but when it comes to quality very few places are as tight or can consistently deliver higher standards.


May as well keep it in Corona vs potentially sacrificing on quality.

Amen, amen and amen.
 
Rig Talk, where truth is told, and liberals cry.

I feel for you bro, I don't know how you do it.

It's easy because I'm on the right side of history and what I'm right about is worth defending.

Plus, I love a good internet forum fight from time to time.

I've never cried over politics but it makes you feel good to think I do, then by all means, have at it!

I hope you're doin' well. Peace be with you.
 
How is the covid shot not a real vaccine?

It's not a vaccine by traditional definition. It doesn't use a weakened or dead virus, as you know it relies on MRNA technology. Gene therapy is how it's probably best described. I'll just leave it a that, as this thread doesn't need to be another vaccine thread. I was just making a point about how California has lost touch with the individual's rights about what they can do with their body.

@JohnnyGtar I was being snarky because, well... I just find that most Californians I knew out there, they would get angry and flip out if I said something that was factual. Geo's point above is exactly what I meant. I have no enemies here, just trying to be honest about a few things.

Anyway, I used to attend St. Monica in Santa Monica (a really nice Catholic church).
 
It's not a vaccine by traditional definition. It doesn't use a weakened or dead virus, as you know it relies on MRNA technology. Gene therapy is how it's probably best described. I'll just leave it a that, as this thread doesn't need to be another vaccine thread. I was just making a point about how California has lost touch with the individual's rights about what they can do with their body.

@JohnnyGtar I was being snarky because, well... I just find that most Californians I knew out there, they would get angry and flip out if I said something that was factual. Geo's point above is exactly what I meant. I have no enemies here, just trying to be honest about a few things.

Anyway, I used to attend St. Monica in Santa Monica (a really nice Catholic church).

It's all good, bro. How ya doin'?
 
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