Charlie Kirk Shot

VonBonfire said:
Your political affiliations aren't written on your hospital bracelet. Try again.
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The political affiliations don't matter - it would be EXACTLY the same if the parties were reversed. People in places of trust in society don't get to call for death, and calling that "cancel culture" is just trying to pretend you're a 40599 IQ megamind and the peasants around you just aren't smart enough
 
DanTravis62 said:
The political affiliations don't matter - it would be EXACTLY the same if the parties were reversed. People in places of trust in society don't get to call for death, and calling that "cancel culture" is just trying to pretend you're a 40599 IQ megamind and the peasants around you just aren't smart enough
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I'm just pointing out that a large portion of the right are hypocrites now, and are radicalized in similar ways. Not sure why you think assigning stupid stuff to me makes you right.
 
VonBonfire said:
I'm just pointing out that a large portion of the right are hypocrites now, and are radicalized in similar ways. Not sure why you think assigning stupid stuff to me makes you right.
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Because Nurses and Teachers calling FOR LITERAL DEATH isn't "cancel culture" because it isn't covered under the first amendment

I believe you might want to read the 1919 Schenk V US case for more information on what isn't protected
 
VonBonfire said:
You brought nurses and now teachers into the argument. I was talking about people who are calling for general vengeance against anyone who gloated over Charlie's death. Posting in caps doesn't boost your argument.
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Sure, any of those people are hypocrites if they are calling for violence themselves

But the people getting fired, are the people the news is saying are experiencing "cancel culture" from the right - which is making the right hypocrites, according to left wing media sources.

And those people are almost invariably public servants, in places of societal trust, like doctors, nurses, professors, teachers - that's the point. Those positions come with responsibility, and calling for people's death isn't exactly being judicious with that responsibility, and isn't protected speech in the first place
 
VonBonfire said:
I'm just saying as soon as the opportunity was there many of the people on the right became just like the people on the left have been for years. My last two side gigs were a representation with this.

Job A, the boomer liberal getting daily headaches consumed by climate change talk on MSNBC meanwhile living in 4000 sq ft home alone, heating and cooling it, and hoarding junk. Total disarray. 45 minute job to find a tool in the work shed. I quit because they couldn't be out of bed in the morning knowing people were coming by to work.

Job B, Fox news 24/7 and 15-30 minutes every morning spent listening to insane flavor of the minute rants I could predict by reading a few conservative news articles before I showed up. The tough talking blowhard who in reality was a 65 year old pussy who hadn't grown up mentally past the age of 12. I don't want to deal or associate myself with either of those kind of people in a work environment anymore if it can be avoided. They are both cut from the same sort of retarded cloth.
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I hear you bro. I’ve never been called left or liberal in my life until I came here. I’m hesitant to even say I’m a little left of middle because the things I’m passionate about, are to me, things I see as basic human rights and respectfulness, and I know too many good dudes on the right to imply that they don’t value those things.
As always, it’s the extremes of both sides that are the problem, and the further to one side you get, the further anyone on the other side appears to be too
 
DanTravis62 said:
But the people getting fired, are the people the news is saying are experiencing "cancel culture" from the right - which is making the right hypocrites, according to left wing media sources.
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Bitching about cancel culture for ten years and then engaging in cancel culture type behavior is being a hypocrite. It's the mark of extreme polarization and emotion driven respons vs a logical one.

DanTravis62 said:
And those people are almost invariably public servants, in places of societal trust, like doctors, nurses, professors, teachers - that's the point. Those positions come with responsibility, and calling for people's death isn't exactly being judicious with that responsibility, and isn't protected speech in the first place
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This is outside of anything I was arguing about though. I was speaking in general terms, and in general, if you are trying to get the guy who drives your route on the dump truck fired because he laughed about Charlie Kirk you are in the same douchebag camp as the person trying to cancel his dump truck driver cause he laughed about Joe Biden falling down the stairs of Air Force One. Both sides pride themselves on supposed moral virtue then when the opportunity arises, they do the same shit to each other. Trash world.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
I hear you bro. I’ve never been called left or liberal in my life until I came here. I’m hesitant to even say I’m a little left of middle because the things I’m passionate about, are to me, things I see as basic human rights and respectfulness, and I know too many good dudes on the right to imply that they don’t value those things.
As always, it’s the extremes of both sides that are the problem, and the further to one side you get, the further anyone on the other side appears to be too
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I am just keeping it real, if you consider yourself a center leftist, you need to do a little Midwest/South travel.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
I hear you bro. I’ve never been called left or liberal in my life until I came here. I’m hesitant to even say I’m a little left of middle because the things I’m passionate about, are to me, things I see as basic human rights and respectfulness, and I know too many good dudes on the right to imply that they don’t value those things.
As always, it’s the extremes of both sides that are the problem, and the further to one side you get, the further anyone on the other side appears to be too
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Yes, and now I'm a liberal for calling out hypocrites on the right. And to liberals I'm MAGA cause I don't believe men can become women. Modern politics does seem to reward a more extreme mindset. What's extra weird is I think Charlie Kirk would 100 percent not be for canceling jake at sweetwater just cause he cheated a customer out of bit o honeys cause he laughed at an assassination or posted a rebel flag on his facebook.
 
VonBonfire said:
Bitching about cancel culture for ten years and then engaging in cancel culture type behavior is being a hypocrite. It's the mark of extreme polarization and emotion driven respons vs a logical one.


This is outside of anything I was arguing about though. I was speaking in general terms, and in general, if you are trying to get the guy who drives your route on the dump truck fired because he laughed about Charlie Kirk you are in the same douchebag camp as the person trying to cancel his dump truck driver cause he laughed about Joe Biden falling down the stairs of Air Force One. Both sides pride themselves on supposed moral virtue then when the opportunity arises, they do the same shit to each other. Trash world.
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Yeah, I disagree, but i understand where you're coming from - but I would suggest that your argument isn't going to be very convincing to anyone

The whole "stoically, righteously, and morally keep getting shit on by the left" thing died with charlie, I think
 
DanTravis62 said:
Yeah, I disagree, but i understand where you're coming from - but I would suggest that your argument isn't going to be very convincing to anyone
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I definitely don't expect it to be. So many people are caught in high emotion right now because they watched a man get executed almost in real time, then watched rotten bastards laugh about it and celebrate.

DanTravis62 said:
The whole "stoically, righteously, and morally keep getting shit on by the left" thing died with charlie, I think
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You are def right, I'm just not into the group-think of the day regardless of what political side it is. I watched some X post about how "if your church didn't mention Charlie's name on sunday blah blah blah insert angry rant". Well, my church didn't. Anyone was welcome to add his name to their book of commemorations and have a piece of communion loaf cut for him but it's the protestant minds on the right who have been duped into thinking they are engaged in a physical battle for supremacy, rather than a spiritual one.
 
VonBonfire said:
Well, my church didn't. Anyone was welcome to add his name to their book of commemorations and have a piece of communion loaf cut for him but it's the protestant minds on the right who have been duped into thinking they are engaged in a physical battle for supremacy, rather than a spiritual one.
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I think that's more people trying to figure out if their church is secretly converged by marxism, which is 100% a real thing

Every church, school, and town hall on earth would have their flag at half mast if it was Don Lemon who got shot by a neo-nazi.
 
DanTravis62 said:
I think that's more people trying to figure out if their church is secretly converged by marxism, which is 100% a real thing
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Undoubtedly. But it's also sort of a western culture/church thing to think that that the church has business putting politics in the pulpit, which is why you see churches on both sides engaging in culture wars outwardly.

DanTravis62 said:
Every church, school, and town hall on earth would have their flag at half mast if it was Don Lemon who got shot by a neo-nazi.
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Eh, I would sort of doubt that but it'd be headline news for three weeks of course and used to demonize the right.
 
VonBonfire said:
Eh, I would sort of doubt that but it'd be headline news for three weeks of course and used to demonize the right.
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They did it with Michael Brown and George Floyd, and they attacked cops - if it was actually justified I'm pretty sure the media would have the largest orgasm ever recorded in human history, and every pulpit, emergency service, and public utility would be forced to signal their obeisance
 
DanTravis62 said:
They did it with Michael Brown and George Floyd, and they attacked cops - if it was actually justified I'm pretty sure the media would have the largest orgasm ever recorded in human history, and every pulpit, emergency service, and public utility would be forced to signal their obeisance
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I have a "conservative" church just down the road that is loudly pro life and traditional marriage but then since half the congregants are hispanic they post all blue democrat signs up front during election season. And they gladly closed their doors as ordered and then hosted vaccine clinics at their church during covid. smh. There are completely misguided people everywhere now.
 
DanTravis62 said:
They did it with Michael Brown and George Floyd, and they attacked cops - if it was actually justified I'm pretty sure the media would have the largest orgasm ever recorded in human history, and every pulpit, emergency service, and public utility would be forced to signal their obeisance
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It's crazy man. I grew up in North County (Riverview/Ferguson) and what happened on tv, the reality of everything...was so misconstrued and sensationalized. Media didn't show the actual tragic bad shit, they showed some minimalistic version of a controlled situation. Watch Don Lemons coverage of the riots. He ran inside of a house claiming he was "gassed". I was sitting in a brewpub 500 feet away drinking a beer laughing. Media no longer presents perspective.
 
japetus said:
I am just keeping it real, if you consider yourself a center leftist, you need to do a little Midwest/South travel.
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I just don’t really see what makes me so far left. Everyone here is so damn dramatic that they can’t take anything at face value, and all opinions get biased to the extreme
 
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