NAD! '82 Marshall 4104 with EV's

[VonBonfire]

the 57 one sounds good

The 57 just plain works great.

He's def getting a room sound off those PZM's after a 2nd listen, it's a little boomy on the bottom. Maybe it was the boots!

 

[7704A]

Ok, it occurs to me that I shouldn't be comparing stereo single-source tracks vs panned doubled mono tracks since the panned mono imitates two sound sources wide apart whereas the stereo single-source track is just a single source down the center. What I should do is compare centered stereo image tracks vs centered mono tracks. If I want to compare a panned mono track with the 57 to the PZMs, then I should also double track with the stereo array, but each time rotating the mic array left or right to do the panning at the source. I also sorted out issues with tracks sounding different outside my DAW than they did inside. I think that came down to mono tracks getting doubled into left and right channels without re-normalizing the audio to maintain the same level as in the DAW, resulting in a 3dB boost in volume.

So, here is a centered stereo pair recording with the PZMs and a panned mono track with the 57. They've both been LUFS matched so they should have approximately equal loudness, and I fixed the issue with exports screwing that up.

 

[7704A]

Just took receipt of the PS100 I bought from @GrimTrigger, and used the line out to blast the Marshall into an Eminence EM12 IR through my MSP5 monitors without killing the neighborhood cats. Not quite my ideal tone being an SM57 capture, and an EVM12L (clone) instead of a 12S, but still good I think. Phone recording.

 

[7704A]

Hmm, ok, now the amp is making noises similar to when the input jack had a bad connection, and has some volume drop-outs. Maybe it's finally time to perform a more thorough service check-up. The low input on 10 through the PS into my combo cab sounds fantastic though, enough drive to do lighter stuff (or play in a worship team) and cleans up beautifully with playing dynamics.

 

[7704A]

Hmm... Where were we? Right, not using 57's. Haven't had the volume issues again, and just today finally built a PZM wedge stereo mic array. Pro: it sounds pretty realistic. Con: realistically, sticking your head right in front of a speaker cabinet isn't that pleasant. Beaming is biting, I tweak for the sound up where I'm standing or sitting, but it's much brighter right in front of the 2x12. So that'll need some tweaking. But, the big takeaway right now is how realistic things sound, in particular ambient stuff. There's a door closing at the end of the track and even knowing it's a recording it feels like it's in the room with me. Neato! Riff ripped whole-sale from @Mr Mansfield and played poorly.


Anyone else feel like that door slam is in the room with them when listening back in stereo? Comments on tone? Complaints for the complaints bin ?

 

[LPMojoGL]

Hmm... Where were we? Right, not using 57's. Haven't had the volume issues again, and just today finally built a PZM wedge stereo mic array. Pro: it sounds pretty realistic. Con: realistically, sticking your head right in front of a speaker cabinet isn't that pleasant. Beaming is biting, I tweak for the sound up where I'm standing or sitting, but it's much brighter right in front of the 2x12. So that'll need some tweaking. But, the big takeaway right now is how realistic things sound, in particular ambient stuff. There's a door closing at the end of the track and even knowing it's a recording it feels like it's in the room with me. Neato! Riff ripped whole-sale from @Mr Mansfield and played poorly.


Anyone else feel like that door slam is in the room with them when listening back in stereo? Comments on tone? Complaints for the complaints bin ?

That sounds nasty in the best way. Love it.

 

[7704A]

That sounds nasty in the best way. Love it.

Listening back, I like it a lot more now than I did last night. Still not quite ideal in my book, but it's definitely it's own thing.