What’s a good multi effect? Got the wet dry thing going. I need a good multi effect. (clip)

[heath]

How about a Boss using a Boss SDE delay? It lets you do easy the w-d-w output. I did some tests with 3 Katana amps and it sounded pretty cool.

My cat had to bombed the photo when I was doing my tests

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Awesome cat and an awesome idea. The EVH SDE has the WDW outputs ready as well as modulation and a noise gate.

 

[Briman24]

Boss ME-500.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

They hold their value not just because those companies failed to make something better, but because other companies also failed to make something better. There's a reason H series, PCM series, 2290s etc. remain staples.

I'm not hostile to Fractal, but any would-be buyer has to consider why so many people want theirs gone for $500, and whether you too will be in that boat in 2 years. Or put another way, Fractal has not yet managed to release a unit that's a staple with long-term demand.

Well sure, but that doesn't really address what I said, that those units would be boat anchors if those same companies would have made better-in-every-way newer versions of them. Whether they were able to or not is really beside the point. If they did, the previous versions would be inferior and their value would plummet. That's exactly what Fractal has done with every release and the reason their previous products decline in value, not because "the people who buy them secretly don't like them but say they do for clout because they're rich and can't be seen without the latest, greatest, shiniest toys.”

Personally I totally loved my Axe-Fx II when I had one, and when the Axe-Fx III came out I dumped the II as fast as I possibly could because I knew the Axe-Fx III was going to be better in every way (and it was) and I wanted in on that, hah. I also think if Fractal Audio the company disappeared from the face of the earth today, the Axe-Fx III would keep getting top dollar for decades.

Anyway I think I've gone too far off topic lol. That's enough from me about this for now.

 

[Exo-metal]

Eventide H90

 

[tallcoolone]

There are Axe-FX II MkIIs all over the place for $500 or so

No one scours the local used market more than I and the cheapest I've seen a MkII is $700 and it looked like it had seen a few tours. I agree with what you are saying but the MkIII is almost a decade in and a clean MkII still will sell for close to a grand pretty quick. For modeling that isn't too bad

 

[Shask]

Well sure, but that doesn't really address what I said, that those units would be boat anchors if those same companies would have made better-in-every-way versions of them. Whether they were able to or not is really besides the point. If they did, the previous versions would be inferior and their value would plummet. That's exactly what Fractal has done with every release and the reason their previous products decline in value, not because "the people who buy them secretly don't like them but say they do for clout because they're rich and can't be seen without the latest, greatest, shiniest toys" like you said above.

Personally I totally loved my Axe-Fx II when I had one, and when the Axe-Fx III came out I dumped the II as fast as I possibly could because I knew the Axe-Fx III was going to be better in every way (and it was) and I wanted in on that, hah. I also think if Fractal disappeared from the face of the earth today, the Axe-Fx III would get top dollar for decades.

Anyway I think I've gone too far off topic lol. That's enough from me about this for now.

Yeah, I think the only reason the Fractal units go down in value is because they keep making newer ones. I still have my old Axe II I bought new. It is still a great effects unit, but it doesn't do what the III does of course. Only reason why I look at other options is because it is so huge. Would be awesome if it were the size of my Intellifex.

 

[tallcoolone]

Yeah, I think the only reason the Fractal units go down in value is because they keep making newer ones. I still have my old Axe II I bought new. It is still a great effects unit, but it doesn't do what the III does of course. Only reason why I look at other options is because it is so huge. Would be awesome if it were the size of my Intellifex.

That's why I didn't upgrade to the III--they made it bigger when it needs to be more portable. I suppose the floor units sound great but I believe they lack the processing power of the flagship rack. Full power, on the floor baby--the racks should be a niche IMO. And put an integrated pedal on the floor units please

 

[Shask]

That's why I didn't upgrade to the III--they made it bigger when it needs to be more portable. I suppose the floor units sound great but I believe they lack the processing power of the flagship rack. Full power, on the floor baby--the racks should be a niche IMO. And put an integrated pedal on the floor units please

I have a FM3 also, but it is not that tiny either. I mean, it isn't big, but it is too tall for a 2 space rack drawer for example.

 

[Rackman]

No one scours the local used market more than I and the cheapest I've seen a MkII is $700 and it looked like it had seen a few tours. I agree with what you are saying but the MkIII is almost a decade in and a clean MkII still will sell for close to a grand pretty quick. For modeling that isn't too bad

https://reverb.com/item/92832758-fractal-audio-axe-fx-ii-mark-ii-2012-2018-black
https://reverb.com/item/92918815-fractal-audio-axe-fx-ii-mark-ii-2012-2018-black

Market for these is soft as shit. Which is good if a II will get the job done for you.

 

[tallcoolone]

https://reverb.com/item/92832758-fractal-audio-axe-fx-ii-mark-ii-2012-2018-black
https://reverb.com/item/92918815-fractal-audio-axe-fx-ii-mark-ii-2012-2018-black

Market for these is soft as shit. Which is good if a II will get the job done for you.

I stand corrected, although 80% of the available are still over $800. And I did see a local-ish one for $600

 

[alund]

And/or that the market for a given unit is dominated by doctors/dentists/lawyers who can't be seen with last year's model rather than serious musicians.

Not pick a fight here @Rackman but this is an incorrect generalization that makes people who are assumed to have money like (doctors, lawyers, hermie the dentist) need to look like they have money by getting the latest and greatest item on the market even though they are not serious about music. Not all musicians have time to research old and new gear like RTers do, they just get what they think might be good enough. Naivety probably plays a big role in what people buy. Money just allows them to do it more quickly.

 

[SFW]

H90

This.

 

[CarlF]

Going to stick to playing in good old mono for foreseeable future.
I have a Soldano X88-IR on the way.

I might possibly move to one of the Fryette stereo power amps from the Power Station.

 

[Shask]

Going to stick to playing in good old mono for foreseeable future.
I have a Soldano X88-IR on the way.

I might possibly move to one of the Fryette stereo power amps from the Power Station.

I have been thinking about this lately also. I have been super complicated the last year or two doing stereo. I am not a huge effects person, but going to mono lately made me realize how much all the stereo stuff was making my tone too thick. Like, there is less definition and clarity for my tight percussive chuga chuga riffs. Even just using a mono delay sounds clearer then trying to ping pong dual delays around.

 

[Airwave]

Clip using a Boss Pitch Shift and a Boss RV-6, but I don’t want pedals, I want to multi effect.
I guess lLne 6, and Fractal are the top contenders.

As a Multi-EFX I really love the AXE-FX III with Four Outputs, and running in stereo, I have different channels going to my SLO and BE-100 (also FOH)
I also use a TC Electronic G-Force for some things but mostly the AXE-FX does most of the work, so far three years of gigs & sessions absolute reliable...