1978 Van Halen opening for Black Sabbath

[stompboxfreak72]

Read the book " Van Halen Rising" by Greg Renhoff........fantastic.

 

[chameleon2112]

Saw the VH/BS concert here in 78 also. Already had the cassette so knew how good VH was, but man they destroyed Sabbath, and I was\am a huge Sabbath fan. To be fair that was right before they parted ways but man they were boring.

 

[jabps]

Nashville got an extra dose of VH on that opening tour as Ozzy disappeared and missed the show.

VH played their set and even extended it in hopes of giving more time to find Ozzy...no luck. He never showed, he checked into the wrong room, passed out and nobody could find him lol. Had friends that attended that show and still talk about how amazing VH was. Good ole Oz.

 

[MrDowntown]

Damn that sounds so good, and clean, and fast as shit (by my standards ) I love the way Ed threw down that ICM riff at the end of the second solo...kick ass man!

I can't even imagine what it would have been like to be a youngin, especially in Cali back in the day when they were still "a party band", but picking up steam....holy shit.

 

[tyrellcorp]

I am seeking images of concert posters, ticket stubs, or any other advertising for the Black Sabbath w/Van Halen concert in Kuernach Germany on October 15, 1978. I am creating a shadow box to display a VanHalen drumstick acquired by a family at the concert. Any links or pointers would be appreciated.

I am open to purchasing the actual items should someone own them, but at this point I would satisfied with simply a digital image. For example, I found a digital image for the same concert tour for the concert in Goppingen two nights before the Kuernach concert. I have attached the image for Goppingen concert poster. I still recall personally seeing similar posters for the Kuernach Concert when I was in high school in Germany. However, I haven't found the poster image for October 15th.

That said, any images related to the October 15th concert in Kuernach is what I am looking for at this this point.

My family member said he was lucky to catch the stick, but even luckier in fighting other fans off to keep a hold of it!!

Thanks much!

Deckard

 

[mrcak]

I was at the VH/ Black Sabbath show at the Nassau Coliseum in '78. All we had to go on was the local rock station playing tunes off the 1st album. VH were epic. The basically played the 1st album. The sound was excellent too.
Sabbath were the loudest thing I ever heard in a concert hall. Unbearable. So much so that we walked out.

 

[mdc1mdc11]

I was fortunate to see them open for Ted Nugent and Black Sabbath (Largo and Baltimore). Crowds were stunned, so was I. Had to feel sorry for Sabbath, a problematic Ozzy did not help or crappy album to take out on tour.

 

[Chester Nimitz]

When you're in High School and this is a caliber of guitar playing you grow up with everything else is just on the downhill slide ...

 

[paulyc]

I saw Cinderella open for AC/DC on their "Long Cold Winter" tour and although they didn't blow AC/DC off the stage, I think everyone was amazed at how great they sounded and how they didn't fit the typical hair band mold. I didn't see the tour, but people said Guns and Roses did the same to Aerosmith every night.

I saw the GnR/Aerosmith show at Great Woods Ma on that tour, GnR kicked their ass that night.

 

[sg guy]

-crackah pleeeeeeeze!!!-

-another "BLOWN OFF THE STAGE THREAD. well, it's my own fault, I vowed a million years ago to never read another one,

 

[Mesa\Kramer]

Van Halen's popularity grew quickly during that first tour with Sabbath.

Soon a whole new group of fans were heading to the Sabbath shows to see this new Van Halen, then leaving before Sabbath hit the stage.

This defenetly got to Sabbath as from that point on they made sure no opening acts would ever upstage them again and they did that by using mostly Southern Hard Rock acts like .38 Special etc. to open for them, still getting a Hard Rock sound in an opening act but no flash to take away from them

 

[steve_k]

I will show my age a bit here. I remember being in high school and seeing them on this tour in Nashville. I went to see VH primarily, and it worked out well. VH played and was awesome. Oz was so fucked up he never made it to the venue from the hotel, so they rescheduled the complete concert for the next night. Got a freebie two-fer of VH then Sabbath.

 

[mdc1mdc11]

Van Halen's popularity grew quickly during that first tour with Sabbath.

Soon a whole new group of fans were heading to the Sabbath shows to see this new Van Halen, then leaving before Sabbath hit the stage.

This defenetly got to Sabbath as from that point on they made sure no opening acts would ever upstage them again and they did that by using mostly Southern Hard Rock acts like .38 Special etc. to open for them, still getting a Hard Rock sound in an opening act but no flash to take away from them

I think VH learned this lesson too. Ever notice their openers are always rubbish. The only opener I saw from them that was worth watching was Saxon and AIC.

 

[311boogieman]

Thanks for posting this.


Michael sounds like a women though

 

[sg guy]

-OK, I'm in, once again the voice of reason, this thread and topic was smartly trolled, let's see, kinda like the movie "A STAR IS BORN". its a movie about the fall of one star and the rise of another, if you don't remember this movie with Chris Christopher & Barbara Streisand, that means you weren't around then, gotta mention, Barbara had a big nose, but bigger tits!!

-this is definitely the end of the greatest heavy metal band of all time BLACK SABBATH-(TRUTH)-
-at this point in time, VH was not a known band, see, you crazy kids don't have perspective, back in this time, opening acts were pretty much a none factor at best, usually not even billed, or promoted, the people who heard that SABBATH was coming to town on the FM radio, probably only edgy rock station in town, you listen all day to garbage put into heavy rotation, its a form of brain washing-(first time you hear a song like JUMP you hate it, they play it after the 32 time you heard it before lunch " yeah, it OK" day 2... in 78 the stereo never got turned off, might miss something!!! fast forward 2 days, still listening as you de-seed your weed, ya scored a nickle of Columbian Gold on the dust cover-(a nickel was measured with three fingers across the bottom of baggie, oh and it cost $5)-(dust cover=usually dark brown & see through cover for your turntable, it was a multi purpose tool but its primary function was to turn it over, dump your weed in it, then we segregated the "shake" "stems" "dirt balls" bugs" "leaves" "not quite sure, mystery pile" and then, you have what is the prime time, "BUDZ!!". you carefully examine each and every budz, to assure quality, color, form, and how you feel about the budz, will feel about the deal, the dealer, tradition mandated that the largest budz-(singular)-is saved in the safest of spots, to be honored, shown to friends who boast about there.... Anyways, so day three, your soundesign stereo with fisher speakers size ment everything.... You heard JUMP 692 TIMES!!!.. but its too late, your got your tickets for SABBATH as soon as you heard the glorious news on the " edgy rock" station, the SABBATH tickets not only share the same safest of safe places-(usually a wooden box you made in shop, a prized possession in it self, it judged your status with your friends, along with its contents, brand of rolling paper, your status could really rise if your joint rolling skills are*HOLLY SHIT!!!!... IT'S ON!!,IT'S!!!-(this is what everyone was waiting for, for the first time in 3 days the heaviest rock station in town, is actually playing BLACK SABBATH on the radio, this was living on the edge, before the first hammers 5th of PARANOID your body flew to the volume nob on your stereo, it was mandatory to play it at full blast, it didnt matter that those 5w speakers weren't even audible at 5, don't matter open your window, you listen for the others, a mustang II convertible drives by, its cranking SABBATH!!!.. you yell or make any noise as long as you can, louder, it was a call, a call to the few, the dammed, if you were a BLACK SABBATH fan, YOU WERE BAD-FUCKIN-ASS!! you were feared, and prayed for,you smuggled your first BLACK SABBATH 45 in the house at midnight, under the cover of darkness,you knew your old man would be passed out in the chair by 10:15, but would mysteriously awaken from the coma for the news, lights a Paul Maul, no filter of course, man's cigarette, REAGAN is president, every night on the news its the same thing, some can't handle it, so they don't watch it, its the height of the cold war TV, the USSR, hate us, we hate them, nuclear war is not an if, it's when, you hope you reach 21 before it happens, so you can get really drunk!! BLACK-FUCKIN-SABBATH!!.. just saying your a fan, ment you were going to burn in hell, there the only band of there kind, they get no publicity in the music magazine's, well CREEM might,but it's to make fun of them, calling them Satan's pigeon's, its a common reaction, they are feared, it is common knowledge there satanist, there fans worship the devil in the woods, you've used a magnify glass and examined every detail, looking for something, you don't need to play SABBATH songs backwards to here the evil messages, you have listened and written down the lyrics, you'll bring the budz, to the concert, there's rumors of certain satanic cults, and you talk to your friends, the circle,the BLACK SABBATH fans, talk about it, all the talk is second,third hand, the HELLS ANGELS are on there way, you have no idea if or who is opening, you don't care, and if the opening band had any fans, they would be afraid to go, the prince of lies would show up, sacrifice there still beating hearts to who would drink the blood,.... Fuck!! I can't wait!!! They nuclear war better not happen until the very end of WAR PIGS!! mutha fuckahs!!.. Well, one thing is guaranteed, there won't be many, if any chicks there, Steve's brother said there's breeder's from the satanic church that show up, there beautiful, seduce you with there eyes, bring you to the woods, to the orgy, they need young virgin boys seed, to father the babies for the sacrifice's, then the same beautiful girl that took your seed, shows her true form, her eyes red, goats head, she,..IT!! rips your heart out of your chest, and eats it, the apex black widow, FUCK IT!! WERE ALL GONNA LIGHT UP OUR BUDZ WHEN WAR PIGS STARTS, and we'll get there early to get up front, then were gonna keep an eye out for the devil bitches!! Oh yeah!! Where gonna give them some seed alright-(at this point, the teenage testosterone makes them brag and tell lies about there greatly over exaggerated dick size, how many women, teachers, mothers, and of course they go down the rank and file of the hottest chicks at school, the endless lies has a bonding effect, story book ending, BLACK SABBATH, BUDZ, GOOD FRIENDS, HORNY GOAT GIRLS THAT ILL RIP APART WITH MY WEAPON OF CHOICE!!!-(and all four hope it all goes down, BRING IT ON YOU HORNY BITCHES!!!



-EVERYBODY WHO WENT, WENT TO SEE BLACK SABBATH, TO FORGET ABOUT LIFE FOR AWHILE, THE ACTION ALWAYS HAPPENS RIGHT UP FRONT, WERE GONNA BE FIRST THROUGH THE DOOR, GOT OUT BUDZ STASHED, FOR THE PAT DOWN,

 

[kurtsstuff]

I would see them from time to time when they were really just starting out and were called Mammoth at the time...yeah..I'm old..lol! They were one of the best backyard,dance club bands going at the time and yes..Eddie did play with his back to the crowd alot of times during solo's.. :/

 

[SpiderWars]

-OK, I'm in, once again the voice of reason, this thread and topic was smartly trolled, let's see, kinda like the movie "A STAR IS BORN". its a movie about the fall of one star and the rise of another, if you don't remember this movie with Chris Christopher & Barbara Streisand, that means you weren't around then, gotta mention, Barbara had a big nose, but bigger tits!!

-this is definitely the end of the greatest heavy metal band of all time BLACK SABBATH-(TRUTH)-
-at this point in time, VH was not a known band, see, you crazy kids don't have perspective, back in this time, opening acts were pretty much a none factor at best, usually not even billed, or promoted, the people who heard that SABBATH was coming to town on the FM radio, probably only edgy rock station in town, you listen all day to garbage put into heavy rotation, its a form of brain washing-(first time you hear a song like JUMP you hate it, they play it after the 32 time you heard it before lunch " yeah, it OK" day 2... in 78 the stereo never got turned off, might miss something!!! fast forward 2 days, still listening as you de-seed your weed, ya scored a nickle of Columbian Gold on the dust cover-(a nickel was measured with three fingers across the bottom of baggie, oh and it cost $5)-(dust cover=usually dark brown & see through cover for your turntable, it was a multi purpose tool but its primary function was to turn it over, dump your weed in it, then we segregated the "shake" "stems" "dirt balls" bugs" "leaves" "not quite sure, mystery pile" and then, you have what is the prime time, "BUDZ!!". you carefully examine each and every budz, to assure quality, color, form, and how you feel about the budz, will feel about the deal, the dealer, tradition mandated that the largest budz-(singular)-is saved in the safest of spots, to be honored, shown to friends who boast about there.... Anyways, so day three, your soundesign stereo with fisher speakers size ment everything.... You heard JUMP 692 TIMES!!!.. but its too late, your got your tickets for SABBATH as soon as you heard the glorious news on the " edgy rock" station, the SABBATH tickets not only share the same safest of safe places-(usually a wooden box you made in shop, a prized possession in it self, it judged your status with your friends, along with its contents, brand of rolling paper, your status could really rise if your joint rolling skills are*HOLLY SHIT!!!!... IT'S ON!!,IT'S!!!-(this is what everyone was waiting for, for the first time in 3 days the heaviest rock station in town, is actually playing BLACK SABBATH on the radio, this was living on the edge, before the first hammers 5th of PARANOID your body flew to the volume nob on your stereo, it was mandatory to play it at full blast, it didnt matter that those 5w speakers weren't even audible at 5, don't matter open your window, you listen for the others, a mustang II convertible drives by, its cranking SABBATH!!!.. you yell or make any noise as long as you can, louder, it was a call, a call to the few, the dammed, if you were a BLACK SABBATH fan, YOU WERE BAD-FUCKIN-ASS!! you were feared, and prayed for,you smuggled your first BLACK SABBATH 45 in the house at midnight, under the cover of darkness,you knew your old man would be passed out in the chair by 10:15, but would mysteriously awaken from the coma for the news, lights a Paul Maul, no filter of course, man's cigarette, REAGAN is president, every night on the news its the same thing, some can't handle it, so they don't watch it, its the height of the cold war TV, the USSR, hate us, we hate them, nuclear war is not an if, it's when, you hope you reach 21 before it happens, so you can get really drunk!! BLACK-FUCKIN-SABBATH!!.. just saying your a fan, ment you were going to burn in hell, there the only band of there kind, they get no publicity in the music magazine's, well CREEM might,but it's to make fun of them, calling them Satan's pigeon's, its a common reaction, they are feared, it is common knowledge there satanist, there fans worship the devil in the woods, you've used a magnify glass and examined every detail, looking for something, you don't need to play SABBATH songs backwards to here the evil messages, you have listened and written down the lyrics, you'll bring the budz, to the concert, there's rumors of certain satanic cults, and you talk to your friends, the circle,the BLACK SABBATH fans, talk about it, all the talk is second,third hand, the HELLS ANGELS are on there way, you have no idea if or who is opening, you don't care, and if the opening band had any fans, they would be afraid to go, the prince of lies would show up, sacrifice there still beating hearts to who would drink the blood,.... Fuck!! I can't wait!!! They nuclear war better not happen until the very end of WAR PIGS!! mutha fuckahs!!.. Well, one thing is guaranteed, there won't be many, if any chicks there, Steve's brother said there's breeder's from the satanic church that show up, there beautiful, seduce you with there eyes, bring you to the woods, to the orgy, they need young virgin boys seed, to father the babies for the sacrifice's, then the same beautiful girl that took your seed, shows her true form, her eyes red, goats head, she,..IT!! rips your heart out of your chest, and eats it, the apex black widow, FUCK IT!! WERE ALL GONNA LIGHT UP OUR BUDZ WHEN WAR PIGS STARTS, and we'll get there early to get up front, then were gonna keep an eye out for the devil bitches!! Oh yeah!! Where gonna give them some seed alright-(at this point, the teenage testosterone makes them brag and tell lies about there greatly over exaggerated dick size, how many women, teachers, mothers, and of course they go down the rank and file of the hottest chicks at school, the endless lies has a bonding effect, story book ending, BLACK SABBATH, BUDZ, GOOD FRIENDS, HORNY GOAT GIRLS THAT ILL RIP APART WITH MY WEAPON OF CHOICE!!!-(and all four hope it all goes down, BRING IT ON YOU HORNY BITCHES!!!



-EVERYBODY WHO WENT, WENT TO SEE BLACK SABBATH, TO FORGET ABOUT LIFE FOR AWHILE, THE ACTION ALWAYS HAPPENS RIGHT UP FRONT, WERE GONNA BE FIRST THROUGH THE DOOR, GOT OUT BUDZ STASHED, FOR THE PAT DOWN,

I missed the show and wanted to go real bad. But this is not how I remember it. All my friends went to see Van Halen, some weren't even Sabbath fans. VH was the hot new item. And all my friends that went echoed what has already been said, VH slayed.

 

[311boogieman]

-WALL OF TEXT

I'm confused. How did we listen to 'Jump' in 1978 again?

You are lucky though...your nickle bags were the size of our (midwest) dime bags.

 

[JerEvil]

-WALL OF TEXT

I'm confused. How did we listen to 'Jump' in 1978 again?

You are lucky though...your nickle bags were the size of our (midwest) dime bags.

I started smoking pot when a nickel was $5... stopped for ages, then found out a nickel was $60 and SIGNIFICANTLY less weed than I got when I was a teenager. Pot subsequently lost me forever! LOL!

 

[311boogieman]

Amen to that.