A-440 is the NAZI tuning?

[petejt]

 

[EXPcustom]

My guitar is racist.

Frank Zappa's guitar wanted to kill yer mama...

Put that in yer pipe and smoke it

V.

 

[hunter]

8 Hz from a total of 440 Hz makes 1.8181818... %

So if I retune my backing tracks to 432, does it mean I use the -1.8181 (or maybe -2) cent in my file player, or is the cent more related to percent of one note? what would that then be from a 440Hz track?

 

[glpg80]

8 Hz from a total of 440 Hz makes 1.8181818... %

So if I retune my backing tracks to 432, does it mean I use the -1.8181 (or maybe -2) cent in my file player, or is the cent more related to percent of one note? what would that then be from a 440Hz track?

1 cent is 1/1oo of a step.

50 cents is a half step, 100 cents is a whole step. this goes for each note no matter what you play, but in the bigger picture Ed was saying that all notes are in reference to A 440 which i agree. D standard is a tuning where the E's become a D, and the standard is in reference to the A 440 (E 632?) of standard tuning.

 

[hunter]

Ok so that means I take the Hz of the next step under A (G) = 392 Hz

440-392= 48Hz (=100 cent)

So if 48Hz is 100 cent, it means I can get 8Hz down with -16.666 cent, would that be about right (assuming all goes linear)?

 

[glpg80]

Ok so that means I take the Hz of the next step under A (G) = 392 Hz

440-392= 48Hz (=100 cent)

So if 48Hz is 100 cent, it means I can get 8Hz down with -16.666 cent, would that be about right (assuming all goes linear)?

i dont believe the change is linear though? to be honest i never really thought of it. the gauge of string that you use is irrelevant though.

 

[Shark Diver]

Wonder what would happen if you played a Huber at standard tuning through a VH4?

 

[degenaro]

Ok so that means I take the Hz of the next step under A (G) = 392 Hz

440-392= 48Hz (=100 cent)

So if 48Hz is 100 cent, it means I can get 8Hz down with -16.666 cent, would that be about right (assuming all goes linear)?

Thats 200 cent in equal tempered tuning, and no you can't get there with a simple formula you gotta bust out the scientific calculator.
Alternatively you can deal deal with ratios. However that will be off since it'll give you in tune intervals and not split the difference equal temper.
Anyways heres the deal, it was generally agreed that middle c is 256 hz, so in order to arrive at 432 hZ for concert pitch before 440 they took the cyclic 6th which is 27/16 from the the root.
Which gets you 432 hz for A. As for the ratios they behave inversely. I.e. If you want to get the frequency of a whole step you got a ration of 9/8. You need to shorten one 9th. In order to get the frequency....say g to a... 392 x9/8 and you get 441 hertz assuming G is the root and were talk a typical major whole step. Now the other way around....minor 7 or 9/5 ratio 440 x9/5/2 396 hz.

 

[jcj]

Ok so that means I take the Hz of the next step under A (G) = 392 Hz

440-392= 48Hz (=100 cent)

So if 48Hz is 100 cent, it means I can get 8Hz down with -16.666 cent, would that be about right (assuming all goes linear)?

Thats 200 cent in equal tempered tuning, and no you can't get there with a simple formula you gotta bust out the scientific calculator.
Alternatively you can deal deal with ratios. However that will be off since it'll give you in tune intervals and not split the difference equal temper.
Anyways heres the deal, it was generally agreed that middle c is 256 hz, so in order to arrive at 432 hZ for concert pitch before 440 they took the cyclic 6th which is 27/16 from the the root.
Which gets you 432 hz for A. As for the ratios they behave inversely. I.e. If you want to get the frequency of a whole step you got a ration of 9/8. You need to shorten one 9th. In order to get the frequency....say g to a... 392 x9/8 and you get 441 hertz assuming G is the root and were talk a typical major whole step. Now the other way around....minor 7 or 9/5 ratio 440 x9/5/2 396 hz.

My head hurts

 

[steve_k]

 

[university81]

don't believe everything you read on ze interwebs ;p so after some digging

440Hz has been decided to be standard in 1939 by the International Federation of the National Standardizing Associations (ISA, has now become ISO) in London.

The US used 440Hz as a standard since 1910 after John Calhoun Deagan persuaded the American Federation of Musicians to do so.

for more reading

http://web.mac.com/len15/MUSICAL_CULT_C ... owitz.html

how about refusing to use certain products based on their connection in world war 2 (coca cola - fanta being one of them..)

http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/1 ... _the_Nazis

horrors were and are committed by everyone, if you think about it look at the huge consequences of inventing the atomic bomb

in any case, not really the kind of thread for rig-talk, but thought i'dd add my 0.02 cents

 

[Spaceboy]

I like those totenkopf inlays.

 

[kasperjensen]

I tune half a step down for this reason, joking

even if you did tune 1/2 step down, you'd still be generating an A-440 frequency

but seriously, why was the A-note changed?

no, you would not be generating an A-440 a half a step down. A-440 means its a 440Hz signal on the A string, decreasing the tension will alter the frequency, last i checked its a 5 Hz difference 435.

Tuning half a step down you are still referencing to 440. An A will still be at 440, even though you are tuned down.

 

[hunter]

Ok so that means I take the Hz of the next step under A (G) = 392 Hz

440-392= 48Hz (=100 cent)

So if 48Hz is 100 cent, it means I can get 8Hz down with -16.666 cent, would that be about right (assuming all goes linear)?

Thats 200 cent in equal tempered tuning, and no you can't get there with a simple formula you gotta bust out the scientific calculator.
Alternatively you can deal deal with ratios. However that will be off since it'll give you in tune intervals and not split the difference equal temper.
Anyways heres the deal, it was generally agreed that middle c is 256 hz, so in order to arrive at 432 hZ for concert pitch before 440 they took the cyclic 6th which is 27/16 from the the root.
Which gets you 432 hz for A. As for the ratios they behave inversely. I.e. If you want to get the frequency of a whole step you got a ration of 9/8. You need to shorten one 9th. In order to get the frequency....say g to a... 392 x9/8 and you get 441 hertz assuming G is the root and were talk a typical major whole step. Now the other way around....minor 7 or 9/5 ratio 440 x9/5/2 396 hz.

I think my brain shut down after the word "scientific calculator".

But as an easy one, for a noob like me, if I have standard backing tracks in A=440 and wanna try out 432, how many cent do I have to pitch them down?

 

[kasperjensen]

Ok so that means I take the Hz of the next step under A (G) = 392 Hz

440-392= 48Hz (=100 cent)

So if 48Hz is 100 cent, it means I can get 8Hz down with -16.666 cent, would that be about right (assuming all goes linear)?

Thats 200 cent in equal tempered tuning, and no you can't get there with a simple formula you gotta bust out the scientific calculator.
Alternatively you can deal deal with ratios. However that will be off since it'll give you in tune intervals and not split the difference equal temper.
Anyways heres the deal, it was generally agreed that middle c is 256 hz, so in order to arrive at 432 hZ for concert pitch before 440 they took the cyclic 6th which is 27/16 from the the root.
Which gets you 432 hz for A. As for the ratios they behave inversely. I.e. If you want to get the frequency of a whole step you got a ration of 9/8. You need to shorten one 9th. In order to get the frequency....say g to a... 392 x9/8 and you get 441 hertz assuming G is the root and were talk a typical major whole step. Now the other way around....minor 7 or 9/5 ratio 440 x9/5/2 396 hz.

I think my brain shut down after the word "scientific calculator".

But as an easy one, for a noob like me, if I have standard backing tracks in A=440 and wanna try out 432, how many cent do I have to pitch them down?

Approx. 31.75 cents should get you down to 432Hz.

 

[hunter]

Ok so that means I take the Hz of the next step under A (G) = 392 Hz

440-392= 48Hz (=100 cent)

So if 48Hz is 100 cent, it means I can get 8Hz down with -16.666 cent, would that be about right (assuming all goes linear)?

Thats 200 cent in equal tempered tuning, and no you can't get there with a simple formula you gotta bust out the scientific calculator.
Alternatively you can deal deal with ratios. However that will be off since it'll give you in tune intervals and not split the difference equal temper.
Anyways heres the deal, it was generally agreed that middle c is 256 hz, so in order to arrive at 432 hZ for concert pitch before 440 they took the cyclic 6th which is 27/16 from the the root.
Which gets you 432 hz for A. As for the ratios they behave inversely. I.e. If you want to get the frequency of a whole step you got a ration of 9/8. You need to shorten one 9th. In order to get the frequency....say g to a... 392 x9/8 and you get 441 hertz assuming G is the root and were talk a typical major whole step. Now the other way around....minor 7 or 9/5 ratio 440 x9/5/2 396 hz.

I think my brain shut down after the word "scientific calculator".

But as an easy one, for a noob like me, if I have standard backing tracks in A=440 and wanna try out 432, how many cent do I have to pitch them down?

Approx. 31.75 cents should get you down to 432Hz.

THANK YOU!

 

[kasperjensen]

Nema problema.

(I assume it to be correct... Let me know how you get on).

 

[EXPcustom]

I like those totenkopf inlays.

I believe that's Jeff Hanneman's guitar, if you don't like them you can always send a letter of disapproval to Slayer.

 

[jlbaxe]

I thought A 440 was in reference to the A string being tuned so that when it was plucked it would vibrate a figure 8 pattern 440 times a minute or something like that

 

[Mailman1971]

I like those totenkopf inlays.

I believe that's Jeff Hanneman's guitar, if you don't like them you can always send a letter of disapproval to Slayer.